Man Utd - The Gaalacticos thread

[Ent]

First topic message reminder :

Can see the same thing happening with Kroos, when Bayern stump up the wage & then the pressure will be on Moyes massively, after constantly telling everyone that he's been given the nod by these agents that these players wanted to come to United.

He shouldn't be saying things like that IMO. Just making things harder for himself.

[Hero]

'Nearing 30' - he turned 27 three months ago.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Benatia was nearing 30 the other day too and he's only just turned 27.

[Guest]

'Nearing 30' - he turned 27 three months ago.

Not long now   

[Hammersmith harrier]

Rojo has been confirmed, it's a start at least, just three more players need and we might be somewhere near where we need to be.

Only seen him play at left back for Argentina so can't comment on him as a centre back option but he looked steady enough defensively, got forward well when he needed to, certainly better than what we currently have.

[Ent]

I don't think it's just a case of paying up- these players are likely not interested in joining us or more interested in other clubs.

Vidal - was never going to happen
Di Maria - too expensive for what he offers
Benatia - may want to joint another club eg bayern

This window we have a cb, left back and a centre mid - that's a good window considering our current state.

[compelling and rich]

couldnt care less if di maria only looked great because of ronaldo bale etc. what i do know he is a dam site better than flecth, clev, fellaini, young, valencia, wellbeck and can play in all of there postions

he will easily improve us!

[The Special Juan]

couldnt care less if di maria only looked great because of ronaldo bale etc. what i do know he is a dam site better than fletch, clev, fellaini, young, valencia, wellbeck and can play in all of there postions

he will easily improve us!

Whoa let's not be hasty here. I know who I'd rather have in the DM role.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Ent, with Vidal it's more a case of LVG being apprehensive with him rather than the other way round, Di Maria is simply a case of money and Benatia seems to have various options available.

[compelling and rich]

he would also enable us to play a CM with great attacking ability but not unwilling to work hard unlike mata who can be a passenger

big game against one of the tops teams:

-----carrick----herrera------
---------di maria-----------
januzaj----rvp-----rooney--

that midfield looks good to me, bit of everything and wont be easy to play through. front 3 can easily be changed about if for instance rvps injured just move rooney centrally. likewise di maria can be moved wide against the smaller teams allowing mata to come in

[Hammersmith harrier]

couldnt care less if di maria only looked great because of ronaldo bale etc. what i do know he is a dam site better than fletch, clev, fellaini, young, valencia, wellbeck and can play in all of there postions

he will easily improve us!

Whoa let's not be hasty here.  I know who I'd rather have in the DM role.

I won't hear a bad word said against Fletcher, top bloke and has been a top player for us.

[compelling and rich]

couldnt care less if di maria only looked great because of ronaldo bale etc. what i do know he is a dam site better than fletch, clev, fellaini, young, valencia, wellbeck and can play in all of there postions

he will easily improve us!

Whoa let's not be hasty here.  I know who I'd rather have in the DM role.

sadly flecther has been truly awful for a while, would love to see his stats for how much giving the ball away. no point in winning the ball if you give it away straight away. no need in a dm if you have 3 players willing to work hard and press.

[compelling and rich]

couldnt care less if di maria only looked great because of ronaldo bale etc. what i do know he is a dam site better than fletch, clev, fellaini, young, valencia, wellbeck and can play in all of there postions

he will easily improve us!

Whoa let's not be hasty here.  I know who I'd rather have in the DM role.

I won't hear a bad word said against Fletcher, top bloke and has been a top player for us.

doesn't matter if he's a nice bloke, he's not good enough anymore sadly. even in his pomp he was squad player who did the donkey work. luckily we had players next to him who could do the passing for him.

people have been saying he looked good preseason, must have been watching a different player to me

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

he would also enable us to play a CM with great attacking ability but not unwilling to work hard unlike mata who can be a passenger

big game against one of the tops teams:

-----carrick----herrera------
---------di maria-----------
januzaj----rvp-----rooney--

that midfield looks good to me, bit of everything and wont be easy to play through. front 3 can easily be changed about if for instance rvps injured just move rooney centrally. likewise di maria can be moved wide against the smaller teams allowing mata to come in

When the Frak did Man U get Di Maria?   

[compelling and rich]

he would also enable us to play a CM with great attacking ability but not unwilling to work hard unlike mata who can be a passenger

big game against one of the tops teams:

-----carrick----herrera------
---------di maria-----------
januzaj----rvp-----rooney--

that midfield looks good to me, bit of everything and wont be easy to play through. front 3 can easily be changed about if for instance rvps injured just move rooney centrally. likewise di maria can be moved wide against the smaller teams allowing mata to come in

When the Frak did Man U get Di Maria?   

read the posts, some were saying he's not all that and i was saying he would massively improve us. hence me showing the example of how we would look with him in our team

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

So swerve Mata for Di Maria?

You lot need to stop posting these fantasy teams, I've seen a few funny ones in this thread aswell

[compelling and rich]

So swerve Mata for Di Maria?

You lot need to stop posting these fantasy teams, I've seen a few funny ones in this thread aswell

again read what i put before posting   

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

Also heard we're back in for Fabregas. Barca fans and the club don't seem to want him there any more and i'd think they'd aprt for 25m. I know Arsenal have first refusal which is annoying, but I don't necessarily think he'd go back to Arsenal after seeing how a return to a club he once played for has gone. Not always a fairytale ending. Also a chance to link up with RVP again.

Unnecessary luxury player IMO.  I don't think he's needed at Utd.

  

[Hammersmith harrier]

Do you ever have anything useful to say?

[The Special Juan]

Also heard we're back in for Fabregas. Barca fans and the club don't seem to want him there any more and i'd think they'd aprt for 25m. I know Arsenal have first refusal which is annoying, but I don't necessarily think he'd go back to Arsenal after seeing how a return to a club he once played for has gone. Not always a fairytale ending. Also a chance to link up with RVP again.

Unnecessary luxury player IMO.  I don't think he's needed at Utd.

  

Did you just dig up an old post? Wow.

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

Just reading the Man U thread for a laugh   

[The Special Juan]

W/e

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

Moyes is gone so that's a big bonus, lvg knows what he wants from the players and I think he'll get enough out of the team to get us in the top four.

Liverpool are worse.

Arsenal haven't really addressed any of their issues.

City haven't addressed their main issue.

Chelsea look better on paper but they will be relying on new signings to fire to solve their issues.

We've no cl so should be for and fresh for every pl game.

Think a centre half would make it a very good window for us.

Well Rojo is on his way in   Looks like its a very good window for Man U.

[seanmichaels]

Must be quite difficult for a Liverpool fan looking at their own thread realising that they blew their only chance to win a weak league and will have to weight another 20 years for the next close call.

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

Must be quite difficult for a Liverpool fan looking at their own thread realising that they blew their only chance to win a weak league and will have to weight another 20 years for the next close call.

Not really......used to it now.

Unlike touchy Man U fans who cant take a bit of criticism   

[Ent]

Think it has been a very good window. 3 problem positions filled, should improve the team.

Only disappointing if you unrealistically expected top level/world stars.

[Liam]

Still need a commanding cb, winger and cm though. Happy with Shaw, shame he's got injured so early. Herrera i've always liked and gives us that energy, vision and a bit of bite in midfield we've missed. Played well vs Swansea and was disappointed to see him replaced. Rojo had a good world cup to be fair to him. Can cover lb and cb and is the left footed cb Van Gaal wanted so not a bad buy at all. Still hope we can somehow pull off:

cm: vidal (starting to look unlikely now)
winger: Di Maria (lots of paper talk we're on the verge but still only see PSG getting him
cb: Benatia (Very very unlikely but put in a big offer and Roma may not refuse, especially as they're in for nastasic.

[Ent]

Unrealistic, both in terms of targets and finances.

Do you think we are going to sign 6 new first 11 players in one window?

After spending nearly £80 million you think we will be forking out another £100 + million on those targets?

I doubt we will buy anyone else this window and we should only be spending ridiculous money on top players who are consistent on a world stage ie not di Maria.

[Liam]

Unrealistic, both in terms of targets and finances.

Do you think we are going to sign 6 new first 11 players in one window?

After spending nearly £80 million you think we will be forking out another £100 + million on those targets?

I doubt we will buy anyone else this window and we should only be spending ridiculous money on top players who are consistent on a world stage ie not di Maria.

1. Disagree, after claiming we have an unlimited budget due to us not being affected by FFP, no target should be unrealistic. Money talks.

2. Its what we should have been looking to do. Simple as that. We lost 3 first team players in vidic/evra/ferdinand, rio to a lesser extent, so there's 3 that needed to come in. Our midfield wasn't good enough so needed a cdm and a play making mid, there's another 2 and probably a winger. So that is 6 1st team players we needed to go out and get.

3. I don't think we WILL be forking out another 100m but we should be if we want to be challenging for top 4 this year.

4. I expect one more player to come in, possibly two. Spending ridiculous money is what we have to do to get the top players without  CL football. Vidal is a world class midfielder who is it seems, available and wants the move, yet we're apparantly stalling over the fee. Pay up we'll get him. Di Maria was consistently Real's best player last year, and would be a fantastic buy. Januzaj on one wing and Di Maria on the other would be an incredible threat down the flanks.

[mystiroakey]

" Di Maria was consistently Real's best player last year"

duh wat?

[Liam]

Ok second best, he was the driving force in the midfield and was their best player in the big games. Yes Ronaldo was unbelievable but they wouldn't have won half the big games without the influence of Di Maria.

[mystiroakey]

Ronaldo was easily player of the season, so thats an obvious one. Not sure how influential di maria was as i only saw a few games of la liga , all of the CL games and all the world cup games, but he never stood out. The only game he stood out recently was the game he gave the ball away 53 times. Ok you have to admire the work rate, but yeah well..

[compelling and rich]

i watched a fair bit of real last season and was massively impressed with di maria and modric. ronaldo obviously does the standout stuff but them two were very impressive for differing reasons

also scored the winner in that game mysti

[Liam]

Copa del Rey final, the CL final and the el classicos he was outstanding. His driving runs, his skill, taking on players and his ball retention.

[mystiroakey]

If he was so good why do they want rid?

[compelling and rich]

If he was so good why do they want rid?

james is the new galactico, its not like real have got rid of top players before is it. i mean makalele, robben, sneidjer, ozil, higuain are all rubbish arent they?

[Hammersmith harrier]

It's the way Real Madrid work Mysti, they have to sign one galactico a season and have to finance it by selling players they really shouldn't.

It was the same last year with Ozil and Bale, are they that much better off with Bale and Rodriguez than Di Maria and Ozil?

I would say no they probably aren't but it appeases the fans who have become accustomed these sort of signings every year. It was the same when they had Beckham, Zidane, Figo and Ronaldo, very rarely if ever were they all on fire at the same time and it will be the same now. A very strange way of running a football team, as good as it looks on paper it will not result in a team that is the sum of its parts.

In other news Rojo is officially a Man United players, here's hoping he exceeds expectations, Van Gaal is obviously confident in his abilities.

[Ent]

Unrealistic, both in terms of targets and finances.

Do you think we are going to sign 6 new first 11 players in one window?

After spending nearly £80 million you think we will be forking out another £100 + million on those targets?

I doubt we will buy anyone else this window and we should only be spending ridiculous money on top players who are consistent on a world stage ie not di Maria.

1. Disagree, after claiming we have an unlimited budget due to us not being affected by FFP, no target should be unrealistic. Money talks.

2. Its what we should have been looking to do. Simple as that. We lost 3 first team players in vidic/evra/ferdinand, rio to a lesser extent, so there's 3 that needed to come in. Our midfield wasn't good enough so needed a cdm and a play making mid, there's another 2 and probably a winger. So that is 6 1st team players we needed to go out and get.

3. I don't think we WILL be forking out another 100m but we should be if we want to be challenging for top 4 this year.

4. I expect one more player to come in, possibly two. Spending ridiculous money is what we have to do to get the top players without  CL football. Vidal is a world class midfielder who is it seems, available and wants the move, yet we're apparantly stalling over the fee. Pay up we'll get him. Di Maria was consistently Real's best player last year, and would be a fantastic buy. Januzaj on one wing and Di Maria on the other would be an incredible threat down the flanks.

You should look at our finances before you are so confident in our ability to not be affected by FFP - the last 5 years are available on the official website as they have to be published due to the floatation on the US stock exchange.

Money plainly does not talk, but this point is like banging my head against a brick wall. Top players are going to be multi millionaires anywhere they play - the vast majority will take playing for a perennial contender in CL over 30-40k more a week.

Buying 6 + players in a window never works. We have bought in our 3 problem positions.

We won't be forking out another £100 million and don't need to to compete for top 4, the title maybe but not top 4.

You pay ridiculous wages to get top players without CL, you have no need to pay their clubs ridiculous fees. Vidal is extremely unlikely to happen, if it was a case of money we would just offer it - we have spent huge money on Mata, Shaw, Herrera who are all lesser players.

Januzaj on one wing and Di Maria on the other would be a disaster as we are persisting with 3 at the back and wing backs, plus in Di Maria's only season justifying such a fee he played central...

A dose of reality is needed here.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Have Utd not spent like 80-90m already this summer?

Why on earth are fans complaining about not enough money being spent...

Its been spent, but you're being mugged off by clubs

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Folks what's happened to nick Powell??

[Guest]

Powell has no chance of breaking into United's first team. Another loan deal being made for him this window, then eventually sold on you'd expect further down the line.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Wouldn't mind us taking him on loan tbh

[Atila]

Have Utd not spent like 80-90m already this summer?

Why on earth are fans complaining about not enough money being spent...

Its been spent, but you're being mugged off by clubs

Utd were mugged by Southampton. 30 mil for Shaw was too much I reckon.

[Ent]

Wouldn't mind us taking him on loan tbh

He's a decent player, very good at championship level.

Think he lacks a bit of pace for pl.

[Guest]

Nice to see Moyes doing the Ice Bucket Challenge

From CHOSEN ONE to FROZEN ONE

I'd nominate Sepp Blatter then hopefully he'd catch pneumonia and die!

[Ent]

Di Maria allegedly on his way for £48 million.

Mistake imo.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Ent, anything is a mistake in your opinion, we either can't attract players because of no Champions league football then when we do they're not good enough.

[Ent]

He is a very good player, just not good enough for the money quoted imo.

Also we have players in his position already and we desperately need players in other positions as a priority.

Di Maria only looked a top player for madrid when he was fighting for his future at the club - I don't see him ever replicating that form.

If we were getting him for around £30 million then fair enough but nearly £50 million? Come on.

[Hammersmith harrier]

You'd find a way to bitch and moan no matter what happened, it's what you do.

[Ent]

So in your opinion Di Maria is the solution to all our problems - we shouldn't be getting in a top centre half and CM instead?

Is Vidal going to happen now? I mean you consistently state it's just the fee that is the issue and we seem to have plenty of money for Di Maria.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

[Hammersmith harrier]

I don't constantly state that the fee is the problem, I have however stated on numerous occassions that his knee injury is of concern to Van Gaal and putting him off making the signing.

We won't know the answer to our problems until the transfer window has shut and how we perform over the coming months, a knee jerk reaction to the Swansea match doesn't give any indication.

I unlike you retain my optimism, you however look for things to moan about.

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