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Post by Driver Fri 18 Jul 2014, 1:58 pm

First topic message reminder :

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Breaking News: Saints continue to set the pace with win at defending champions while the Chiefs remain unbeaten after toppling the Tigers 
 


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2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers 
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons 
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons 
2009/2010 – Saracens 
2008/2009 - London Irish





                                             

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Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
 
 
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1992. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Open Window

    Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them.  Teams may only bid for one player at a time.

    The window will open from the 9th of June but only to those sides that finish 8th and below at first. They will have a week to make one signing each before the window is open to all.     

Player Releases wrote: 
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 15:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Aug 2014, 10:07 am

You'd certianly stick with Folau at FB but JOC would be a concrete starter in that back 3 imo, he's just a class above everyone else.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 29 Aug 2014, 10:09 am

If everyone was available to OZ I'd go Speight & Cummins personally. Speight looks special tried a few times to get him off Pete. JOC started off well at Toulon but has so much to prove. Form from 2/3 years ago hes up there with the best but needs to show it again.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 29 Aug 2014, 10:10 am

Budgets up to date

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 29 Aug 2014, 10:12 am

Foreign transfers will close Monday at 20:00

I will get to bids either Monday night or early Tuesday morning to accept/reject. Get your thinking hats on anyone with some dosh still available!

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Post by Fluxy Fri 29 Aug 2014, 10:18 am

Torn between two methods, whether to top up my academy with three or four lads, or splash out on one back row. Can't decide between Leguiazmon and Leroy Houston

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 29 Aug 2014, 11:21 am

Pooly

Will Genia is a class above any other Oz 9. But he isn't in form so he doesn't get in the squad. JOC is exactly the same.

At his best he might start at 12 but gets huge pressure from Beale and Toomua.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Aug 2014, 11:31 am

I don't think he's in poor form though Steve. You can only play whats in front of you and he's looked good whenever I've seen him.

Genia has stayed in Super rugby so it's easy to compare his form. JOC could be terrible when he goes back to the Reds or he may be on fire. I've got issues with JOC form personally but can see why people might think he's not in top form.

Speight is ok, looks suspect defensively. I do like Cummins though and he'd be my other winger.

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Post by Guest Fri 29 Aug 2014, 11:43 am

Thing is he is defensively poor so wing only place for him. Should have stayed there it is the only position where he has looked really good. Looked a world beater there and defence easier

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Aug 2014, 11:47 am

JOC's defence is strong in the back 3, agree he had a few issues at 12.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 29 Aug 2014, 12:11 pm

JOC would still start for Aus
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Post by Guest Fri 29 Aug 2014, 1:42 pm

I read an Aussie article a while back saying basically what has JOC ever done for Aussie rugby

Outlined how he has never been consistently good for Australia, never scored enough tries and who has had a negative impact in terms of morale and team spirit every where he has been.

I
Had never considered it before but it is true when you see it in black and white. He is a bit toxic

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Post by Guest Fri 29 Aug 2014, 1:43 pm

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:Foreign transfers will close Monday at 20:00

I will get to bids either Monday night or early Tuesday morning to accept/reject. Get your thinking hats on anyone with some dosh still available!
Are budgets up to date ?

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Post by Guest Fri 29 Aug 2014, 1:47 pm

Would caveat that with he is young. Like Cips and Henson they were feted and dealt with the pressure badly

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Aug 2014, 1:54 pm

JOC has been fantatsic in an AUS shirt for the majority of his 40/50 caps. He's been outstandingat FB and wing, I'm not sure what more he could have done tbh.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 29 Aug 2014, 1:57 pm

I disagree with that.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Aug 2014, 2:00 pm

I'd say he's not always done it at Super level but the boy has been great in an Aus shirt for 80/90% of his caps

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 29 Aug 2014, 2:03 pm

Yep budgets are up to date Matt thumbsup

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Post by Guest Fri 29 Aug 2014, 2:18 pm

Chaps I am on holiday for a month from Tuesday with limited access.

Will get teams in but may struggle to hit deadlines for teams.

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Post by Guest Fri 29 Aug 2014, 2:20 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I'd say he's not always done it at Super level but the boy has been great in an Aus shirt for 80/90% of his caps

One good season maybe. Extremely up and down in Aussie shirt.


Good
On wing and had a run of games. After that had many indifferent performances

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Aug 2014, 2:23 pm

Just can't agree at all on that Matt but not an issue.

He was outstanding his breakthrough season and the following 2/3 seasons. I think his recent dip has tainted peoples views a little. He has been outstanding at FB and wing for a number of years, certainly more than 1 season in a Aus shirt.

He only dropped when put at FH where he was just ok. Such a fantastic talent.

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Post by Guest Fri 29 Aug 2014, 2:31 pm

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/jul/03/james-o-connor-australia-rugby-super-rugby

This is one
Of the articles.

The
Other more disparaging one was on an Aussie site.
I will say I
Have very little time for the writer of this guardian article but it one I actually agree with

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Post by Guest Fri 29 Aug 2014, 2:33 pm

Agree he is a tremendous talent. Such a shame he has not delivered
On it.
Still only 24
Like Cips Henson and many others has an
Attitude issue.

Cips and Henson seem to be over it. Henson took too long to get over it but hope for
O Connor

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Aug 2014, 2:38 pm

As a JOC fan I find that article shocking. I thought our press were bad!

" But he's certainly not the world-class player Australian media have long made him out to be. Far from it. In fact, it's hard to recall one of his 44 Tests where it could be said he was truly world class against top tier opponents"

Utter tosh....he's been superb against NZ/SA (nearly every time he's played them/France etc etc

"Granted, O'Connor's a very good player with a solid command of basic skills. But no more than that"

WTF??? I'd say he's everything past that, the boy can do things most can't dream of (much like Cooper but different positions)

"In time if not already, NZ will view him as the one who got away. A Wallabies back three of Israel Folau, Speight and Adam Ashley-Cooper (if he has to play on the wing to accommodate Tevita Kuradrani at centre) could potentially be the most lethal counter-attacking combination in world rugby."

AAC is a fantastic player but a leathal/counter attacking winger he is not.

Awful article, I'd be begging JOC to come if I was an Aussie as they really miss his spark.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 29 Aug 2014, 2:41 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Chaps I am on holiday for a month from Tuesday with limited access.

Will get teams in but may struggle to hit deadlines for teams.

A month?!? Where to?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 29 Aug 2014, 2:41 pm

Always thought JOC looked awesome on the wing for oz. Space to work his magic. Never a 10 for me.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Aug 2014, 2:44 pm

Totally agree Luke. I did think he had the talent to make it at 10 but just never really worked for him there. His talent on the wing has never been in question, similar at FB.

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Post by Guest Fri 29 Aug 2014, 3:05 pm

LukeLovesLuka wrote:Always thought JOC looked awesome on the wing for oz. Space to work his magic. Never a 10 for me.

Agree fully wing is his position. Has a great step, great acceleration and strong up top to shrug off defenders.
FB not for me as his defence not right there.

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Post by Guest Fri 29 Aug 2014, 3:07 pm

LukeLovesLuka wrote:
anonmattyt wrote:Chaps I am on holiday for a month from Tuesday with limited access.

Will get teams in but may struggle to hit deadlines for teams.

A month?!? Where to?
Northern spain. Driving through rioja for 5 days then across through Asturias and Santander followed by 14 days at my place near San Sebastián.

Back home for a day then on a stag to Lisbon so a bloody good month!!

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 29 Aug 2014, 5:38 pm

I'd agree that JOC in the back 3 has generally looked better for Aus than any of te poor teams he has played super rugby for. He's been absent with injury at times but he made the difference between a genuinely very good side and a frankly mediocre one in his earlier caps. It all went downhill but even just before he was dropped and exiled he was playing good rugby- better back 3 rugby than Mogg or Folau certainly were and though he made mistakes he looked as if he were trying harder than most of the team that RC but by then had peed so many viewers off that they were looking for things on the pitch to blame on him
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Post by Guest Fri 29 Aug 2014, 5:39 pm

Seen the stats behind this on a rfu PowerPoint. The drop off of
Nh players in last 15 is severe 

Really interesting stuff

It was on slide share but has now been removed.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 29 Aug 2014, 5:43 pm

We have always known that our first and last 20 are relatively poor and our middle quarters relatively strong (with some exceptional games). However, I personally feel that a huge contributor to this is our use of substitutes
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Post by Guest Fri 29 Aug 2014, 6:10 pm

I think the tempo point he makes is very true.

We seem to lack the gears.

I think we have a good squad but lack explosiveness and that tempo to change things if not going our way.


However wc is in September in nh conditions. If it is wet then they will struggle with our physical attritional style.


Agree we play our way in to matches and then seem to be hanging on in the last 20

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Post by Guest Fri 29 Aug 2014, 11:43 pm

Anyone see Clermont lose at home to Montpelier?

apparently Montpelier scrum demolished Clermont. FTD easily best French ten.
I am a big fan think he is world Class.


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Post by Guest Fri 29 Aug 2014, 11:58 pm

On paper how did
Montpelier win especially away as no
One wins
Away in France.

Shows importance of decent half back combos and back row balance. Fritz lee, bardy and chouly are good
Players but not all
Together. Likewise parra and James not great together.

James is in a downward spiral and his reactions to play are so slow

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 30 Aug 2014, 10:59 am

Pete - are you doing your now famous preview of the Aviva Premiership season?

Two strongest teams still have to be Saints and Sarries, but Quins getting Yarde could change them into real title contenders again and Tigers seem to have got a lot more depth this year. Wasps and Bath both recruited well and can see that being the top 6, while Irish and Welsh will battle it out for the relegation spot.

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Post by Guest Sat 30 Aug 2014, 4:30 pm

Anyone watch Toulouse lose to La Rochelle?

Mcallister is so poor at ten.


Toulouse
Looked good in other games but you get the feeling they are a side on the slide.
Too many old players.

Chris you should move albacete on he is shot. Been a good player but just slow and lumbering now.

The likes
Of fritz and clerc look a shadow of themselves and not as sharp.

Great set of names but time catches up with its all

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 30 Aug 2014, 10:14 pm

Caught some of the Toulon defeat off Racing, great to see Barcella back and rampant.

JOC played well again, Goosen came on for Sexton and was dreadful, Racing will be praying Sexton doesn't leave as Goosen is dross.

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Post by prop_lyd Sat 30 Aug 2014, 11:39 pm

Anyone got any suggestions for an academy player for me? Trying to think of a good Southern Hemisphere one like an Argie player
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 31 Aug 2014, 6:57 am

dammit_chris wrote:Pete - are you doing your now famous preview of the Aviva Premiership season?

Two strongest teams still have to be Saints and Sarries, but Quins getting Yarde could change them into real title contenders again and Tigers seem to have got a lot more depth this year. Wasps and Bath both recruited well and can see that being the top 6, while Irish and Welsh will battle it out for the relegation spot.
Unlikely mate, snowed under with decorating and baby due in September, barely have time to eat and sleep at the moment.
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Post by Guest Sun 31 Aug 2014, 9:19 am

Going to watch that Toulon metro game. Reports I read said goosen closed out the match well after sexton injury

Is sexton badly injured ?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 31 Aug 2014, 10:13 am

anonmattyt wrote:Going to watch that Toulon metro game. Reports I read said goosen closed out the match well after sexton injury

Is sexton badly injured ?

Seeing the game out? He didn't score a point.....just missed a few pens and kicked badly.

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Post by Guest Sun 31 Aug 2014, 10:18 am

Watching it later so will let you know. Report said he missed 2 kicks one from inside his own half but closed out the game.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 31 Aug 2014, 10:35 am

I suppose he did see the game out as he was on the pitch when they won but he contributed nothing.

Great to see JOC tearing up defences, he'll walk back into Aus squad on current form.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 31 Aug 2014, 11:21 am

Pretty sure Machenaud missed at least one of the kicks Pooly.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 31 Aug 2014, 12:36 pm

Pretty sure Goosen missed 2 Steve, one at the half way and one shorter. He certainly didn't score any!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 31 Aug 2014, 12:39 pm

Pretty sure Goosen missed 2 Steve, one at the half way and one shorter. He certainly didn't score any

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Post by Guest Sun 31 Aug 2014, 12:49 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:Pretty sure Machenaud missed at least one of the kicks Pooly.

Correct steve he took the last one. Watched the game. Goosen did ok. Was not sensational but to say he was dross is frankly quite odd.

That is some bench racing can unload. Racing had better players in key positions which is often what wins matches. Been loving the coverage of top 14 on sky. I have watched quite a few this year 


I wonder what the percentage goal kicking ratio is in France.

Been lots of missed kicks in most games. Clermont took the kicking duties off parra after the first game and Brock James did no better. Michalak goal kicking for Toulon yesterday missed a few

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Post by Guest Sun 31 Aug 2014, 12:50 pm

JOC was on the end of a nice try

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun 31 Aug 2014, 12:50 pm

I'd let JOC kick
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 31 Aug 2014, 12:54 pm

No I said he is dross, I said his performance was dreadful which it was

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