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Post by George Carlin Tue 14 Apr 2015, 7:26 am

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Clermont Auvergne v Saracens, 18 April - Page 3 Clermo10                            Clermont Auvergne v Saracens, 18 April - Page 3 Sarrie10
ASM Clermont Auvergne v Saracens
Saturday 18 April 2015
KO 16:15
Stade Geoffroy-Guichard, Saint Etienne

Referee: George Clancy

Live on beIN / BT Sport

Form:

ASM Clermont Auvergne
4/4/15 - ASM Clermont 37 - 5 Saints
25/1/15 - ASM Clermont 18 - 6 Saracens
17/1/15 - Sharks 13 - 22 ASM Clermont

Saracens
5/4/15 - Racing Metro 11 - 12 Saracens
25/1/15 - ASM Clermont 18 - 6 Saracens
17/1/15 - Saracens 33 - 10 Munster

Teams:

ASM Clermont Auvergne
Nick Abendanon; Noa Nakaitaci, Jonathan Davies, Wesley Fofana, Naipolioni Nalaga, Brock James, Ludovic Radoslavjevic; Vincent Debaty, Benjamin Kayser, Davit Zirakashvili, Jamie Cudmore, Sebastien Vahaamahina, Julien Bonnaire, Julien Bardy, Damien Chouly (capt).

Replacements: John Ulugia, Raphael Chaume, Clement Ric, Julien Pierre, Alexandre Lapandry, Morgan Parra, Camille Lopez, Aurélien Rougerie.

Saracens
Alex Goode; Chris Ashton, Marcelo Bosch, Brad Barritt (capt), Chris Wyles; Charlie Hodgson, Richard Wigglesworth; Mako Vunipola, Jamie George, Petrus Du Plessis, George Kruis, Jim Hamilton, Maro Itoje, Jacques Burger, Billy Vunipola.

Replacements: Schalk Brits, Rhys Gill, James Johnston, Kelly Brown, Jackson Wray, Neil de Kock, Owen Farrell, David Strettle


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Post by nathan Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:24 pm

Wish fofana would just put the ball down, he's getting as bad as Ashton.

If someone caught him whilst in the air, would it be classes as a tackle in the air? Lol

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Post by LondonTiger Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:26 pm

The TV production by French TV continues to be absolutely shocking. All this switching between cameras is making me seasick

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:27 pm

Crowd now in full voice after their team woke them from a slumber.   Sarries in an attacking position but Clermont drive them back to more cheers. Sarries take and kick.  Abendanon catches and replies but it's out on the full.

Saracens win their lineout and attack again. Ashton tries a little kick forward but Abendanon takes well and fires it into touch from his 22.

Another lineout to Sarries.  They take but Clermont drive them back again.  Clermont defending well so far.
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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:29 pm

How is Clancy going to the World Cup?

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:30 pm

Clermont backline much better at making metres when they have the ball. Play now up in the Saracens 22 but Clermont caught holding on. Penalty to clear the Sarries lines.
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Post by Pot Hale Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:31 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:How is Clancy going to the World Cup?

All paid expenses round trip courtesy of Mr N Wray?
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Post by LondonTiger Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:35 pm

Clear knock on at lineout by CA missed

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Post by LondonTiger Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:36 pm

Did Billyv release the man before playing that?

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:37 pm

Just when Clermont get into a good attacking position and build pressure, they give away stupid penalties. Saracens staying strong. Maybe they'll have a purple patch now.
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Post by nathan Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:38 pm

Sealing the ball off by ca then

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Post by nathan Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:39 pm

Surely if Clancy is going to blow for holding on that quick he has to make the players roll away quicker

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Post by LondonTiger Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:40 pm

Dumb by Bendy

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:41 pm

Oh - let off for Clermont there.

Burger knocks on with the line going a begging, after Clermont make a mess of a clearance kick.
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Post by LondonTiger Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:42 pm

LondonTiger wrote:Dumb by Bendy

Oops with the camera change I thought Bendy had taken that ball ober the try line rather than 5m line

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Post by quinsforever Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:42 pm

crucial scrum

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:43 pm

Clermont look really nervous again.

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:44 pm

Still 10-6 to Clermont.

64 minutes on the clock.

Saracens have won a free kick at an attacking scrum in Clermont 22. Pressure time. They scrum down again. And it's a penalty to Sarries.

Danger of a card here for Clermont.....
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Post by quinsforever Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:44 pm

take another scrum...

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Post by quinsforever Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:45 pm

mistake by farrell imo. another scrum might have seen a yc

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:45 pm

Owen Grimacer Farrell to take the kick, and it goes right and over.

10-9 and 67 minutes.
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Post by Pot Hale Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:48 pm

Clancy lets a tackle around the neck go by a Sarries player as Clermont go on the attack again. Jonathan Davies glides though a number of players down the right hand side and then is tackled. And Clermont hold on again with the line in front of them.
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Post by Geordie Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:48 pm

Nice to see Barritt back.

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:52 pm

If Saracens do lose this, they've still made it closer than most pundits thought.

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Post by nathan Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:52 pm

Pot Hale wrote:Clancy lets a tackle around the neck go by a Sarries player as Clermont go on the attack again.  Jonathan Davies glides though a number of players down the right hand side and then is tackled.  And Clermont hold on again with the line in front of them.

Didn't see a tackle around the neck, closest was Farrell but that wasn't high.

Why are we seeing so many slow motion replays!

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:52 pm

The camera work is awful.

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:54 pm

Clermont win a penalty and James knocks it over.

4 point margin with 6 minutes to go.

Have Saracens looked like scoring a try all game?
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Post by nathan Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:57 pm

Sarries 9 could lose this

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:57 pm

No. Toothless bar Burgers knock on from a knock on.

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 18 Apr 2015, 4:58 pm

Saracens have no devil in their attacking backline.  They take ages to release ball from a ruck and then pass it through every player wide and gain no ground hardly, then cough it up on the return play.  

Clermont scrum on the halfway line with 2.5 minutes to go.
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Post by Pot Hale Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:00 pm

And out the ball goes again in the Sarries backline and last pass is forward. They're going nowhere.

less than a minute.
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Post by Pot Hale Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:01 pm

And Clermont march Saracens backwards in the scrum and win a penalty.

Clancy says there is time as the clock turns red for a lineout throw.

Can Saracens steal it?
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Post by LondonTiger Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:01 pm

Ah well, all over I guess. Wanted Sarries to win, but really they have not shown enough to deserve a win.

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Post by quinsforever Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:02 pm

of course sarries havent been expansive. that was their gameplan. cant fault them for it as they made the match very tight.

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:03 pm

I don't get how people can say the French don't care about Europe. Look at those celebrations!

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:03 pm

No. And that ends that. Clermont deserve the win.

Saracens never really got out of the blocks and never threatened the Clermont try line.

All-French final?
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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:03 pm

Needed to show a little more you cant rely on mistakes to win a semi.

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Post by nathan Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:04 pm

Congrats clermont, deserved winners

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Post by quinsforever Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:04 pm

losing by 4 points to clermont in france in semi finals is a very very strong performance, whatever the style of it. sarries will be gutted, but they gave everything i thought.

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Post by George Carlin Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:05 pm

Pot Hale wrote:No.  And that ends that.  Clermont deserve the win.

Saracens never really got out of the blocks and never threatened the Clermont try line.

All-French final?
Yeah, I think so. I honestly believe that Toulon is the only team who can beat this Clermont side.
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Post by Notch Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:05 pm

Saracens try to play not to lose in games like this. You need to take some risks to win more than you lose once you get to the semi-finals.
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Post by quinsforever Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:05 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:I don't get how people can say the French don't care about Europe. Look at those celebrations!
like most sides in most countries, once they are out of it in the group stages, they prioritise their domestic league. thats all. clearly clermont and toulon care passionaltely about Europe.

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:06 pm

quinsforever wrote:of course sarries havent been expansive. that was their gameplan. cant fault them for it as they made the match very tight.

Their gameplan made them lose. I would fault them for it. Clermont weren't exactly scintillating.
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Post by ME-109 Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:08 pm

Once Sarries had to chase the game it was all over...

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Post by quinsforever Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:09 pm

Notch wrote:Saracens try to play not to lose in games like this. You need to take some risks to win more than you lose once you get to the semi-finals.
they had a gameplan notch. kicking infield to clermont is in itself a risky plan if not executed perfectly. sarries gameplan is remarkably reminiscent of ireland and leinsters.

the reality is, clermont got a try from a scrum which was going backwards and got turned yet somehome chouly managed to tie up 9,10 and 14 and that created the space for James chip kick. very fine margins.

clermont worthy winners but a great match.

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Post by ME-109 Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:11 pm

Only one team turned up to play. Luckily for the final Sarries didn't make it. Boring limited rugby..

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Post by nathan Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:12 pm

Congrats clermont, deserved winners

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Post by nathan Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:13 pm

ME-109 wrote:Only one team turned up to play. Luckily for the final Sarries didn't make it. Boring limited rugby..

Like Ireland then....

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:14 pm

quinsforever wrote:

Clermont worthy winners but a great match.

Really??

The first half was paint drying stuff.

Second half marginally improved by an early try and then followed by lots of lateral running by Saracens, and pressure building/giving away penalties by Clermont.

I wouldn't put it in the category of great at all.



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Post by ME-109 Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:14 pm

nathan wrote:
ME-109 wrote:Only one team turned up to play. Luckily for the final Sarries didn't make it. Boring limited rugby..

Like Ireland then....

Don't think Ireland play in this competition

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Post by quinsforever Sat 18 Apr 2015, 5:23 pm

ME-109 wrote:Only one team turned up to play. Luckily for the final Sarries didn't make it. Boring limited rugby..
lets hope the other really boring side gets knocked out in the other semi then and we'll have a proper final

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