We Go Again! The Premier League thread

by Fernando Sat 28 Nov - 17:12

First topic message reminder :

Leicester City XI: Schmeichel; Simpson, Huth, Morgan (c), Fuchs; Mahrez, Kanté, Drinkwater, Albrighton; Okazaki, Vardy

Leicester City Subs: De Laet, King, Schlupp, Ulloa, Dyer, Schwarzer, Inler

Manchester United XI: to face Leicester: De Gea, Darmian, McNair, Smalling, Blind, Carrick, Schweinsteiger, Mata, Young, Rooney, Martial

Manchester United Subs: Romero, Borthwick-Jackson, Fellaini, Memphis, Pereira, Schneiderlin, Rashford

by Hammersmith harrier Mon 14 Dec - 20:42

Nor do I think he should be, he's not actually that good, he's just in the midst of a rather baffling run of scoring.

by Fernando Mon 14 Dec - 20:50

Who starts for you then HH?

by Duty281 Mon 14 Dec - 20:52

Chelsea so slow and ineffectual; Leicester delightfully high in confidence, pace and workrate.

Stupendous cross for the goal. Looked like Hazard bailed out, rather than having an actual injury.

When do Leicester start being genuinely considered as top four contenders?

by Guest Mon 14 Dec - 20:53

Lol at all this baffling run of scoring. Nonsense. So, you would rather pick someone not scoring?

by Hammersmith harrier Mon 14 Dec - 21:05

Fernando wrote:Who starts for you then HH?

I don't have a clue; Rooney is a dud now, Sturridge is broken while Kane and Vardy simply aren't international class.

by Guest Mon 14 Dec - 21:06

What a goal Mahrez

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon 14 Dec - 21:06

Dont play anyone then.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 14 Dec - 21:07

Fernando wrote:That would require him to be in the starting 11 which under Woy he won't be.

He should be - currently by far our best option

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 14 Dec - 21:09

Duty281 wrote:Chelsea so slow and ineffectual; Leicester delightfully high in confidence, pace and workrate.

Stupendous cross for the goal. Looked like Hazard bailed out, rather than having an actual injury.

When do Leicester start being genuinely considered as top four contenders?

Leicester have an opportunity in January, they need to spend on some depth/quality - if they do that well they're in with a real shout.

by Fernando Mon 14 Dec - 21:10

Fabregas coming on for John Terry....Alrighty then.

by Fernando Mon 14 Dec - 21:22

Ivanovic wins miss of the season, Couldn't of been more then 2 yards and shanked it back across goal.

by Fernando Mon 14 Dec - 21:24

Remy on for Oscar.

Ivanovic being wrecked by Albrighton

by Fernando Mon 14 Dec - 21:35

Leicester 2-1 Chelsea - Remy

by Fernando Mon 14 Dec - 21:54

FT Leicester 2-1 Chelsea

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon 14 Dec - 21:56

Chelsea would be a lot better if they gave Remy a run

by Fernando Mon 14 Dec - 23:06

"Today we made two defensive mistakes and we pay. They were goals that I cannot accept. They are goals that were studied and we have practiced for three days. I feel bad because I don't understand how we can concede these goals."

On his misfiring attack: "At the moment it costs us a lot to score goals. Look through our numbers and it is clear it is difficult to score goals. Why? Because the players whose job it is to score goals aren't."

"We can't finish top four, but we can still finish top six because so many teams are dropping points," he tells BBC Sport. "But at the moment we're in a zone where I feel ashamed."

"The last question (about my future) is always the same," says the Portuguese.

"The only thing I can say is that I want to be the manager. I have no doubts and I think you know me well enough to know that I am not afraid of a big challenge and in this moment it is a really big challenge.

"I want to stay and I hope Mr Abramovich and the board want me to stay because I want to stay."

Mourinho: 'All last season I did phenomenal work + I brought them to a level more than they really are. Or this season we are doing so bad.'

by socal1976 Tue 15 Dec - 3:13

I will say it again I said this a while back Chelsea have to be a team in revolt to explain their play. Jose is saying it himself that he has lost the players and the lockeroom is in turmoil.

Leicester are really impressive the way they pressed Chelsea all match and the energy and talent of Vardy and Mahrez was so impressive. Man U and Chelsea have no game breakers and Leicester have two of the best in the league right now. Hazard has been woeful, so has Costa, Cesc, and Oscar. All of those guys combined haven't scored as much as either Vardy or Mahrez. Mahrez is like a Neymar mini.

by Fernando Tue 15 Dec - 11:12

Marcelo Bielsa & Unai Emery favorites for Swansea job. Now that's much better then Monk if can get either.

by GSC Tue 15 Dec - 11:29

Klopp and Bielsa in the PL is hipster dreamland.

by Guest Tue 15 Dec - 11:52

I'd stay away from Bielsa, not a long term option either. Fiery character, who created a player revolt at Bibao, when things got tough & also fell out with the Marseille owners or something along those lines within a year. Unai Emery is way too good for Swansea, be surprised if he had to drop down to Swansea's level, given his success in Europe.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Tue 15 Dec - 11:54

They're as likely to go down with Bielsa as do good. The man isn't for the faint of heart

by **Crimey** Tue 15 Dec - 12:32

If Chelsea do drop down into the relegation zone any time soon, which is a real possibility, is that the final straw and Mourinho goes? Surely there has to be a point where Chelsea have to say thank you but this is not working any more.

by Guest Tue 15 Dec - 13:11

Crimey wrote:If Chelsea do drop down into the relegatine zone any time soon, which is a real possibility, is that the final straw and Mourinho goes? Surely there has to be a point where Chelsea have to say thank you but this is not working any more.

They've got Sunderland and Watford at home then they're away to Man Utd. On current form, they could definitely end the year in the bottom three.

by Fernando Wed 16 Dec - 12:06

Chelsea not holding emergency board meeting but Jose Mourinho's future discussed at board level

by Guest Wed 16 Dec - 12:30

DAVE667 wrote:
Crimey wrote:If Chelsea do drop down into the relegatine zone any time soon, which is a real possibility, is that the final straw and Mourinho goes? Surely there has to be a point where Chelsea have to say thank you but this is not working any more.
They've got Sunderland and Watford at home then they're away to Man Utd. On current form, they could definitely end the year in the bottom three.

You might laugh, but Chelsea could do with someone like Pulis. Never thought I'd say that, but that's the reality of the situation, especially if they don't beat Sunderland. If Jose is not experienced to deal with this relegation battle, then someone like Pulis is. Chelsea might have to suck it up & go down this route. Probably never likely to happen, but replacing Jose, with someone like Carlo or Hiddink, just seems pointless.

by Guest Wed 16 Dec - 12:44

by Guest Wed 16 Dec - 15:49

I said Pulis to Chelsea, was 'probably' not going to happen. Your microsoft paint skills leave much to be desired.

Pep Guardiola is announcing he's leaving Bayern Munich, with Carlo Ancelotti going to replace him. So a huge battle now for his signature, between Man City, Manchester United & Chelsea.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed 16 Dec - 15:55

I'm pretty sure Mourinho can out Pulis Pulis

by Alistair Wed 16 Dec - 15:56

Don't get the fuss around Pep. Hasn't actually built a team himself? Barcelona was basically ready made for him, as was Bayern.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed 16 Dec - 16:22

Next City manager, surely? Unless Pellegrini pulls it out of the bag in the Champions League. Weirdly though, I feel like they might win thr league and still sack him, crazy as that is.

Shame, I was hoping Ancelotti might come back to England and take over at Old Trafford. Still think he's the best manager in the world

by GSC Wed 16 Dec - 16:43

City have pretty much set up the club awaiting Pep.

Saying Barca was set up for him is doing a massive disservice.

by Guest Wed 16 Dec - 17:13

He had the balls to clear out the rubbish & past it, like Eto'o & Ronaldinho, similar to what he has done with Schweinsteiger at Munich, but he's certainly done nothing from scratch. That clear out at Barcelona, paved way for the best generation out of La Masia, there has ever been, along with one individual, who would go on to become one of the greatest ever. At Bayern, that is not going to happen, so he's jumping ship. If he fails to win the champions league this year, his tenure at Bayern, has been an unquestionable failure. Agree, City have been putting things in motion for Pep for a number of years. If City do win the league, he once again inherits a great squad & with a billionaire owner, it certainly makes his job much, much easier. Would of preferred to see him really test himself, I mean, turning around Manchester United right now, would be seen as 'godly' in terms of managerial achievement. He'll take the easier route though, joining the neighbours.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed 16 Dec - 17:43

Still gotta succeed at that top level though. And with far less parachute of what failure constitutes.

by Fernando Thu 17 Dec - 14:44

Chelsea have sacked manager Jose Mourinho seven months after he led them to the Premier League title.
The 52-year-old Portuguese had been in his second spell at the club, taking charge in June 2013.

Chelsea finished eight points clear last season and also won the League Cup, but have endured a terrible start to their defence, losing nine of their 16 league games so far.

Mourinho's final match was Monday's 2-1 defeat at leaders Leicester City.
Pep Guardiola, Guus Hiddink, Brendan Rodgers and Juande Ramos have all been touted as possible successors.

He leaves with Chelsea just a point off the relegation zone and 20 points behind Leicester.
Champions League qualification via one of the top four spots in the Premier League looks almost impossible.

However, the Blues are through to the last 16 of European football's biggest club competition, where they will face French champions Paris St-Germain in February and March.

Mourinho only signed a new four-year contract on 7 August and is Chelsea's most successful manager.
He won three Premier League titles, two of those in his first spell between 2004 and 2007.

The Portuguese has also won the FA Cup, in 2007, and the League Cup three times - in 2005, 2007 and 2015.

It has not only gone wrong in the Premier League for Mourinho, he has also had his issues off the pitch.
A 2-2 draw with Swansea on 8 August was overshadowed by a fallout with his medical team, in particular club doctor Eva Carneiro.

Carneiro had her role downgraded after Mourinho said his medical staff were "naive" for running onto the pitch to treat attacking midfielder Eden Hazard.

She eventually left on 22 September and is now taking legal action against Mourinho and the Blues.

Mourinho also received a suspended stadium ban and £50,000 fine for claiming referees were "afraid" to award his team penalties in a 3-1 home loss to Southampton in October.

He subsequently had to serve a one-match stadium ban and pay a £40,000 fine for his behaviour during a 2-1 defeat by West Ham, when he spoke to referee Jon Moss at half-time.

by Guest Thu 17 Dec - 14:52

The Unemployed One (with £40 million in his back pocket)

by Fernando Thu 17 Dec - 14:55

Juande Ramos expected to take charge til end of season

by Guest Thu 17 Dec - 14:56

£40m, trying to build new stadium & Roman being much tighter. Not sure why they had to sack him, they weren't going to get relegated & the interim won't get the top 4. I would of given him time.

by Guest Thu 17 Dec - 15:00

jose is a get in the job, sort it out & win quick, then it goes off the boil. How much for United to risk that this summer by taking Jose on & getting United winning trophies again. Imagine Pep at City & Jose at United, what a rivalry

by NickisBHAFC Thu 17 Dec - 15:06

Best manager in the world, if he gets sacked then no one in this game is safe. Removes a forgien manager though.

by Lowlandbrit Thu 17 Dec - 15:08

Fernando wrote:Juande Ramos expected to take charge til end of season

Sounds risky to me, does he have any experience keeping sides up?

by Duty281 Thu 17 Dec - 15:11

Capello next. Just wait and see...

by kingraf Thu 17 Dec - 15:13

Jeez. Surprised this happened. Player power is my only assumption. You have to be pretty poor as a manager to take a team with that much talent to a point above relegation. A manager with eight or nine league titles across four countries (not to mention two CL titles) is not a poor manager. urine poor from the Chelsea players and they should really hang their heads in shame. They won't. But they should.

by Fernando Thu 17 Dec - 15:17

What was you expecting to happen Raf when he kept throwing them under the bus.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu 17 Dec - 15:18

Juande Ramos. Chelsea manager. Read that again and explain to me how that should be happening.

by BamBam Thu 17 Dec - 15:19

Telegraph reckon Hiddink is the caretaker

by BamBam Thu 17 Dec - 15:19

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Juande Ramos. Chelsea manager. Read that again and explain to me how that should be happening.

To be fair, without the rent boy cash, thats probably their level Run

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu 17 Dec - 15:20

Did he? Or did he give somewhat honest answers? I think he's a boobie a lot of the time, but the reason he got a reputation with the media is cos he is also engaging and doesn't shirk things. I don't see them getting the big name manager they want, and they needed one strong enough to get the weak from this squad. Mourinho would have.

by Fernando Thu 17 Dec - 15:24

Sure he gave honest answers, But putting it out in the press is not going to make the situation any better. If you have issues deal with it in house.

by Guest Thu 17 Dec - 15:25

Hiddink's only club managerial role in the past 6 and a 1/2 years, was a 17 month spell at Russian club Anzhi. Out of touch now, especially with this situation. Ramos being lined up too is embarrassing. Chelsea have made a huge mistake, financially too, this will hurt them, when they miss out on the champs lge money & having £40m put on the FFP sheet, along with funding a new stadium. Jose would of turned it around, Ramos or Guus are not going to get a top 4 & like Jose, they would never have got relegated either. Should of stuck & just sucked it up for the season.

by Fernando Thu 17 Dec - 15:27

Chelsea Football Club and Jose Mourinho have today parted company by mutual consent.

All at Chelsea thank Jose for his immense contribution since he returned as manager in the summer of 2013.

His three league titles, FA Cup, Community Shield and three League Cup wins over two spells make him the most successful manager in our 110-year history. But both Jose and the board agreed results have not been good enough this season and believe it is in the best interests of both parties to go our separate ways.

The club wishes to make clear Jose leaves us on good terms and will always remain a much-loved, respected and significant figure at Chelsea. His legacy at Stamford Bridge and in England has long been guaranteed and he will always be warmly welcomed back to Stamford Bridge.

The club’s focus is now on ensuring our talented squad reaches its potential.

There will be no further comment until a new appointment is made.

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