So Lee vs Saunders.......Who should be favourite
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So Lee vs Saunders.......Who should be favourite
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Haven't seen the bookies odds on this fight but see a lot of people are slightly torn about where this is going to go, just wanted to get your opinions on who you think should be the favourite in this
On one side you got Saunders the unbeaten amateur star who's won all of his fights against decent opposition , but he's looked a little frail before and has been known to fade in fights
Lee is the experienced one and clearly the puncher of the 2. Decent fundamentals and good chin but has struggled against pressure fighters only which BJS is most definately not
So who wins and who should be the betting favourite
Haven't seen the bookies odds on this fight but see a lot of people are slightly torn about where this is going to go, just wanted to get your opinions on who you think should be the favourite in this
On one side you got Saunders the unbeaten amateur star who's won all of his fights against decent opposition , but he's looked a little frail before and has been known to fade in fights
Lee is the experienced one and clearly the puncher of the 2. Decent fundamentals and good chin but has struggled against pressure fighters only which BJS is most definately not
So who wins and who should be the betting favourite
Baby faced assassin- Posts : 264
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Pound-for-Pound wrote:Pure jabfest. Is Lee going to go 12 without trying to throw his money punch right hook even once?
Pure borefest more like.
Got Billy 5 up and think he's content doing the min required to win as nothing is coming from lee
Coxy001- Posts : 1816
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Dead even now 94-94
mobilemaster8- Posts : 4302
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Andy Lee is not impressing me at all
wheelchair1991- Posts : 2129
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Lee seems scared to throw his left incase he gets countered with Saunders right hand
tommyhearnsprodigalson- Posts : 243
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Got Saunders up by 3 points.
Could be anything though, some of these rounds are a coin toss
Could be anything though, some of these rounds are a coin toss
rob-glos- Posts : 613
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Everybody knows Saunders has questionable stamina, Lee has done nothing to take advantage of that fact. Eubank showed the gameplan to win, just started too late.
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Got this pretty much level, not sure what this commentator is watching, Saunders is doing nothing whilst Lee is at least landing with the jab and the odd left hand.
Hammersmith harrier- Posts : 12060
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Anybody know how Showtime have it? What their impressions of the fight/fighters is?
Pound-for-Pound- Posts : 340
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Rd 11 clear for Lee.
Saunders up by 2 going into 12.
Saunders up by 2 going into 12.
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Speaking with some yanks now P4P and they have it level
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Got Lee winning that, aside from the third Saunders didn't do anything.
Hammersmith harrier- Posts : 12060
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Don't wanna see this again
Please let someone win this
Please let someone win this
Baby faced assassin- Posts : 264
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I have lee winning by 2. Saunders did absolutely nothing at all most of the fight to win that.
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Saunders by 1
No idea what the judges will have... So many close rounds through the middle
No idea what the judges will have... So many close rounds through the middle
rob-glos- Posts : 613
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That was not the fight i expected i have Bjs up by a point
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Lee.....just wouldn't argue mind.
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Saunders by 2 for me. Lee did and landed zero save for the last 3.
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Saunders by MD
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Saunders gets it, no complaints with the decision
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Don't see where those cards come from apart from the draw. No way Saunders won that.
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Saunders probably stole it. Just think he's a bit of a prat at times, especially in those IFL videos. Not somebody I like to see representing the sport.
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mobilemaster8 wrote:Don't see where those cards come from apart from the draw. No way Saunders won that.
Quick skim round the live updates and there are more who had BJS up than those for Lee.
Lee didn't do much save for the last 3 rounds.
Turgid fight. Still, nice little bit of xmas money from having him on pts
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I've got no problem with Billy Joes personality myself P4P
tommyhearnsprodigalson- Posts : 243
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Despite the fact everythinghe has done I still don't rate BJS that highly as a world level fighter
wheelchair1991- Posts : 2129
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Cagey fight. I feel as though Lee had the victory within him, but the early knockdowns made him overly cautious. He was reluctant to throw after evidencing the outcome of Saunders power counters. Saunders won that. No complaints.
3fingers- Posts : 1482
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Tough fight to call, tough fight to score.
Maybe you always had to give it to Saunders with the knock downs but wouldn't have complained if it was a draw.
Maybe you always had to give it to Saunders with the knock downs but wouldn't have complained if it was a draw.
Herman Jaeger- Posts : 3528
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wheelchair1991 wrote:Despite the fact everythinghe has done I still don't rate BJS that highly as a world level fighter
He keeps churning out the wins but he never looks convincing to me; think he's gone as far as he can, if Lee was a more active fighter he could have won that convincingly.
Hammersmith harrier- Posts : 12060
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Saunders by 1 or a draw. Cagey fight Lee too quiet after knockdowns but fought back reasonably well just not enough to take the win.
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I had Lee edging it no complaints close fight, credit to Saunders, impressed with his speed and in particular footwork.
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Never seen it and judging by you guys comments, missed little.
GGG smashes everyone at middle. No matter what I have said about him, nobody at 160 could beat him.
GGG smashes everyone at middle. No matter what I have said about him, nobody at 160 could beat him.
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It was interesting rather than enjoyable to watch live but not worth revisiting.
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I will probably give it a miss then. Eubank vs Saunders rematch??
AdamT- Posts : 6651
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Decent fight for 3 rounds then it lost its egde.
I agree with Adam GGG would walk through all 160 division
Canelo needs t man up and drop this catchweight nonsense because we all know GGG is the man but a fight with Canelo will make it official.
Eubanks v Canelo???
I agree with Adam GGG would walk through all 160 division
Canelo needs t man up and drop this catchweight nonsense because we all know GGG is the man but a fight with Canelo will make it official.
Eubanks v Canelo???
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Onetwo. I usually deride you for being an alias of AdamT/Truss (you are) but Eubank Vs GGG makes sense. And I like it.
Sadly he'll look at the BJS rematch as he will probably beat him. And with his dad in his ear he's unlikely to want GGG right now
Sadly he'll look at the BJS rematch as he will probably beat him. And with his dad in his ear he's unlikely to want GGG right now
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I dont think Booth is a good fit for Lee. Lee is a pretty good boxer but he has been wide open under Booth and relient on jackpot power to turn fights around.
Booth for me is one of the biggest hype job trainers out there. I think hes more of a strength and conditioning coach than an actual boxing trainer.
Booth for me is one of the biggest hype job trainers out there. I think hes more of a strength and conditioning coach than an actual boxing trainer.
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He's a good psychologist and motivator also to be fair Booth, but yes not sure how adept he is on the technical side either.
Herman Jaeger- Posts : 3528
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Lee never bothered with the body. Odd when your fighting someone better footwork, speed, and a habit of tiring late. He also has a habit of negating his height advantage, booth was telling him to get low. why shorten yourself when you've the height advantage??
jimdig- Posts : 1528
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Makes perfect sense...
Rematch Saunders (Stadium Fight Plus World Title) without having to pay Hearn.
Rematch Saunders (Stadium Fight Plus World Title) without having to pay Hearn.
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Andy Lee is on his back so much Tyson Fury must have a weird sexual attraction to him
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I scored it 113-113 draw. Obviously alot a close rounds which could have been scored either way but I think Lee was more active and winning the fencing match to a degree. I thought BJS would have been all over him in the forth but think he was a bit tired from the third and also knowning Lee is dangerous when on the back foot and hurt.
I think Nick Blackwell's and Chris Eubanks Jnrs stock rose from this fight.
I think Nick Blackwell's and Chris Eubanks Jnrs stock rose from this fight.
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ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Decent fight for 3 rounds then it lost its egde.
I agree with Adam GGG would walk through all 160 division
Canelo needs t man up and drop this catchweight nonsense because we all know GGG is the man but a fight with Canelo will make it official.
Eubanks v Canelo???
There's more chance of you ever spelling his name correctly than that fight happening.
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