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Post by Baby faced assassin Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:15 pm

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Haven't seen the bookies odds on this fight but see a lot of people are slightly torn about where this is going to go, just wanted to get your opinions on who you think should be the favourite in this

On one side you got Saunders the unbeaten amateur star who's won all of his fights against decent opposition , but he's looked a little frail before and has been known to fade in fights

Lee is the experienced one and clearly the puncher of the 2. Decent fundamentals and good chin but has struggled against pressure fighters only which BJS is most definately not

So who wins and who should be the betting favourite
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Post by Coxy001 Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:02 pm

Pound-for-Pound wrote:Pure jabfest. Is Lee going to go 12 without trying to throw his money punch right hook even once?

Pure borefest more like.

Got Billy 5 up and think he's content doing the min required to win as nothing is coming from lee

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:04 pm

Dead even now 94-94

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Post by wheelchair1991 Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:04 pm

Andy Lee is not impressing me at all

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Post by tommyhearnsprodigalson Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:04 pm

Lee seems scared to throw his left incase he gets countered with Saunders right hand

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Post by rob-glos Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:04 pm

Got Saunders up by 3 points.

Could be anything though, some of these rounds are a coin toss

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:05 pm

Everybody knows Saunders has questionable stamina, Lee has done nothing to take advantage of that fact. Eubank showed the gameplan to win, just started too late.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:07 pm

Got this pretty much level, not sure what this commentator is watching, Saunders is doing nothing whilst Lee is at least landing with the jab and the odd left hand.

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:08 pm

Anybody know how Showtime have it? What their impressions of the fight/fighters is?

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Post by rob-glos Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:08 pm

Rd 11 clear for Lee.

Saunders up by 2 going into 12.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:08 pm

104-103 lee

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:08 pm

Speaking with some yanks now P4P and they have it level

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:11 pm

Got Lee winning that, aside from the third Saunders didn't do anything.

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Post by Baby faced assassin Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:12 pm

Don't wanna see this again

Please let someone win this
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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:12 pm

I have lee winning by 2. Saunders did absolutely nothing at all most of the fight to win that.

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Post by rob-glos Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:12 pm

Saunders by 1
No idea what the judges will have... So many close rounds through the middle

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Post by wheelchair1991 Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:13 pm

That was not the fight i expected i have Bjs up by a point

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Post by The Beast Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:13 pm

Lee.....just wouldn't argue mind.

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Post by Coxy001 Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:14 pm

Saunders by 2 for me. Lee did and landed zero save for the last 3.


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Post by Pound-for-Pound Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:15 pm

Saunders by MD

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Post by tommyhearnsprodigalson Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:15 pm

Saunders gets it, no complaints with the decision

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:15 pm

Don't see where those cards come from apart from the draw. No way Saunders won that.

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Post by Pound-for-Pound Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:17 pm

Saunders probably stole it. Just think he's a bit of a prat at times, especially in those IFL videos. Not somebody I like to see representing the sport.

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Post by Coxy001 Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:18 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:Don't see where those cards come from apart from the draw. No way Saunders won that.

Quick skim round the live updates and there are more who had BJS up than those for Lee.

Lee didn't do much save for the last 3 rounds.

Turgid fight. Still, nice little bit of xmas money from having him on pts Smile

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Post by tommyhearnsprodigalson Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:19 pm

I've got no problem with Billy Joes personality myself P4P

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Post by wheelchair1991 Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:19 pm

Despite the fact everythinghe has done I still don't rate BJS that highly as a world level fighter

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Post by 3fingers Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:20 pm

Cagey fight. I feel as though Lee had the victory within him, but the early knockdowns made him overly cautious. He was reluctant to throw after evidencing the outcome of Saunders power counters. Saunders won that. No complaints.

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Post by Herman Jaeger Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:20 pm

Tough fight to call, tough fight to score.

Maybe you always had to give it to Saunders with the knock downs but wouldn't have complained if it was a draw.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:23 pm

wheelchair1991 wrote:Despite the fact everythinghe has done I still don't rate BJS that highly as a world level fighter

He keeps churning out the wins but he never looks convincing to me; think he's gone as far as he can, if Lee was a more active fighter he could have won that convincingly.

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Post by ShahenshahG Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:24 pm

Saunders by 1 or a draw. Cagey fight Lee too quiet after knockdowns but fought back reasonably well just not enough to take the win.

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Post by The Beast Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:24 pm

I had Lee edging it no complaints close fight, credit to Saunders, impressed with his speed and in particular footwork.

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Post by AdamT Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:37 pm

Never seen it and judging by you guys comments, missed little.

GGG smashes everyone at middle. No matter what I have said about him, nobody at 160 could beat him.


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Post by ShahenshahG Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:46 pm

It was interesting rather than enjoyable to watch live but not worth revisiting.

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Post by AdamT Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:55 pm

I will probably give it a miss then. Eubank vs Saunders rematch??

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:10 am

Decent fight for 3 rounds then it lost its egde.

I agree with Adam GGG would walk through all 160 division

Canelo needs t man up and drop this catchweight nonsense because we all know GGG is the man but a fight with Canelo will make it official.

Eubanks v Canelo???

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Post by Coxy001 Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:15 am

Onetwo. I usually deride you for being an alias of AdamT/Truss (you are) but Eubank Vs GGG makes sense. And I like it.

Sadly he'll look at the BJS rematch as he will probably beat him. And with his dad in his ear he's unlikely to want GGG right now

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Post by catchweight Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:30 pm

I dont think Booth is a good fit for Lee. Lee is a pretty good boxer but he has been wide open under Booth and relient on jackpot power to turn fights around.

Booth for me is one of the biggest hype job trainers out there. I think hes more of a strength and conditioning coach than an actual boxing trainer.

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Post by Herman Jaeger Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:09 pm

He's a good psychologist and motivator also to be fair Booth, but yes not sure how adept he is on the technical side either.

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Post by jimdig Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:30 pm

Lee never bothered with the body. Odd when your fighting someone better footwork, speed, and a habit of tiring late. He also has a habit of negating his height advantage, booth was telling him to get low. why shorten yourself when you've the height advantage??

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Post by 3fingers Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:58 am

Makes perfect sense...

Rematch Saunders (Stadium Fight Plus World Title) without having to pay Hearn.

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Post by kingraf Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:07 am

Andy Lee is on his back so much Tyson Fury must have a weird sexual attraction to him
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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:00 pm

I scored it 113-113 draw. Obviously alot a close rounds which could have been scored either way but I think Lee was more active and winning the fencing match to a degree. I thought BJS would have been all over him in the forth but think he was a bit tired from the third and also knowning Lee is dangerous when on the back foot and hurt.

I think Nick Blackwell's and Chris Eubanks Jnrs stock rose from this fight.




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Post by TopHat24/7 Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:03 am

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Decent fight for 3 rounds then it lost its egde.

I agree with Adam GGG would walk through all 160 division

Canelo needs t man up and drop this catchweight nonsense because we all know GGG is the man but a fight with Canelo will make it official.

Eubanks v Canelo???

There's more chance of you ever spelling his name correctly than that fight happening.

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