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NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
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NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS
1 July 2017
KO: 19:35 NZST (8.35am BST)
WESTPAC Wellington Regional Stadium, Wellington
Live on Sky Sports HD
Referee: Jérôme Garcès (France)
ARs: [tbc]
TMO: [tbc]
A. Head to Head
39 Played 39
30 Won 6
3 Drawn 3
6 Lost 30
664 Points 360
B. Recent Form
24 June 2017
Eden Park, Auckland
30 – 15 to New Zealand
9 July 2005
Eden Park, Auckland
38 – 19 to New Zealand
2 July 2005
Westpac Stadium, Wellington
48 – 18 to New Zealand
25 June 2005
Lancaster Park, Christchurch
21 – 3 to New Zealand
3 July 1993
Eden Park, Auckland
30 – 13 to New Zealand
26 June 1993
Athletic Park, Wellington
7 – 20 to British & Irish Lions
12 June 1993
Lancaster Park, Christchurch
20 – 18 to New Zealand
16 July 1983
Eden Park, Auckland
38 – 6 to New Zealand
2 July 1983
Carisbrook, Dunedin
15 – 8 to New Zealand
18 June 1983
Athletic Park (Wellington), Wellington
9 – 0 to New Zealand
4 June 1983
Lancaster Park, Christchurch
16 – 12 to New Zealand
C. TEAMS:
NEW ZEALAND
[tbc]
BRITISH & IRISH LIONS
[tbc]
NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS
1 July 2017
KO: 19:35 NZST (8.35am BST)
WESTPAC Wellington Regional Stadium, Wellington
Live on Sky Sports HD
Referee: Jérôme Garcès (France)
ARs: [tbc]
TMO: [tbc]
A. Head to Head
39 Played 39
30 Won 6
3 Drawn 3
6 Lost 30
664 Points 360
B. Recent Form
24 June 2017
Eden Park, Auckland
30 – 15 to New Zealand
9 July 2005
Eden Park, Auckland
38 – 19 to New Zealand
2 July 2005
Westpac Stadium, Wellington
48 – 18 to New Zealand
25 June 2005
Lancaster Park, Christchurch
21 – 3 to New Zealand
3 July 1993
Eden Park, Auckland
30 – 13 to New Zealand
26 June 1993
Athletic Park, Wellington
7 – 20 to British & Irish Lions
12 June 1993
Lancaster Park, Christchurch
20 – 18 to New Zealand
16 July 1983
Eden Park, Auckland
38 – 6 to New Zealand
2 July 1983
Carisbrook, Dunedin
15 – 8 to New Zealand
18 June 1983
Athletic Park (Wellington), Wellington
9 – 0 to New Zealand
4 June 1983
Lancaster Park, Christchurch
16 – 12 to New Zealand
C. TEAMS:
NEW ZEALAND
[tbc]
BRITISH & IRISH LIONS
[tbc]
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
So very close there, excellent from Murray.
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
This is now a horrible conflict of interest. I want the Lions and the players to win, but do not want Gatland's abortion of a tour to be vindicated.
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
eirebilly wrote:mid_gen wrote:No arguments with that red, total brain fade from SBW.
Would really like to get Te'o on and hang on to some possession...
I have to agree here, Teo would be perfect now that SBW is off but who goes off Sexton or Farrell? Farrell has his kicking boots on but Sexton is the more likely to unlock the AB defence...
ABs defense has been reading and negating Sexton moves quite well so far.
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
So level at HT.
Teo on would be good but you can't take Farrell off with kicking so important , surely ?
You'd think being one short must tell on the ABs eventually.
Teo on would be good but you can't take Farrell off with kicking so important , surely ?
You'd think being one short must tell on the ABs eventually.
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RuggerRadge2611 wrote:This is now a horrible conflict of interest. I want the Lions and the players to win, but do not want Gatland's abortion of a tour to be vindicated.
Lol
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whocares wrote:eirebilly wrote:mid_gen wrote:No arguments with that red, total brain fade from SBW.
Would really like to get Te'o on and hang on to some possession...
I have to agree here, Teo would be perfect now that SBW is off but who goes off Sexton or Farrell? Farrell has his kicking boots on but Sexton is the more likely to unlock the AB defence...
ABs defense has been reading and negating Sexton moves quite well so far.
Its been a very forward dominated game so far so not much chance for Sexton or Farrell as yet but I feel that after half time the Lions will come out more attacking minded and Sexton will be key in that department. Really would have loved to see Biggar on the bench for this game.
Major concern is Williams' confidence and ability under the high ball, I would take him off and put Nowell on the wing with Watson at 15.
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
Horrible conditions nullifying the NZ attack, one man advantage - if we can't win now we never will!
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Rory_Gallagher wrote:Also - the TMO is getting a bit big for his boots. He interjected multiple times and was still mouthing off as Garces walked towards SBW.
It's called wanting to make the correct decision rather than going off some knee jerk reaction as ...some tend to do.
Both Peyper and the TMO simply offered to show him the replay again to be sure.
Yes it was red but you seem to want to penalise everyone in sight.
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
Kudos to Warburton for making NZ working a bit more at the breakdown to get quick ball.
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
Changes I would be making very soon to get the AB's on the back foot :
Lawes for AWJ
Te'o for Farrell
Nowell for Williams
Lawes for AWJ
Te'o for Farrell
Nowell for Williams
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
Our discipline is terrible - if ABs had a decent kicker we would be in trouble by now
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
Giving the ABs too many chances to kick their points...
Replacements will be important : wonder when Webb will come into the game ?
Replacements will be important : wonder when Webb will come into the game ?
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Taylorman wrote:Rory_Gallagher wrote:Also - the TMO is getting a bit big for his boots. He interjected multiple times and was still mouthing off as Garces walked towards SBW.
It's called wanting to make the correct decision rather than going off some knee jerk reaction as ...some tend to do.
Both Peyper and the TMO simply offered to show him the replay again to be sure.
Yes it was red but you seem to want to penalise everyone in sight.
So Garces made a knee jerk reaction? Interesting.
Yes, I want to penalise everyone in sight. What a mature comment from our resident New Zealand apologist.
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
Also - looks like the Lions will still lose this game. Moronic stuff.
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
Replacements now Gatland for the love of god, get Lawes on at the very least.
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
Lions giving away a lot of penalties
Need to be careful
Need to be careful
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Double standards from Ayoub here...
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
Unbelievably stupid from the Lions. A man advantage and still unable to maintain discipline and composure.
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
Not very consistent to TMO that but not the earlier one against the Lions
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
Not late when Taylor does it is it?
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Good from the ref. But Lions undermining their chances by constantly conceding penalties.
Just as well Barrett is having a mixed day . But still they're down by six despite the extra man...
Changes due , surely ?
Just as well Barrett is having a mixed day . But still they're down by six despite the extra man...
Changes due , surely ?
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
Thought we were supposed to have some leadership on the pitch. Mindless.
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
Vunipola (sp) has been poor. I'd like to see Webb, Teo and McGrath on now
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RDW_Scotland wrote:Not very consistent to TMO that but not the earlier one against the Lions
Garces refuses to check a late tackle on Farrell yet stops play to look at one on Barrett?
Then takes an extra 5 yards when the TMO calls the mark for him?
ABs been in his ear at half time by any chance
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
This could be it for Vunipola...
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The TMO is doing my swede in.
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Gatland has really missed a trick here with delaying his replacements. Very poor game management from him.
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
Geez this repetitive thuggery from the Lions. I don't know.
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
Fair decision. Very disappointing by the Lions I terms of lack of composure and efforts.
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Terrible discipline from the Lions isn't it Tman
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eirebilly wrote:This could be it for Vunipola...
Indeed. That presumably has done for the Lions who will go down in history for blowing the chance of a lifetime
If they can't score against 14 how will they go at equal numbers...
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Mako and itoje's discipline has been awful, killing any chance we had.
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Thats a yellow. No consistency though. 4 and 7 black have both done similar in the past 10 mins.
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Re: NEW ZEALAND v BRITISH & IRISH LIONS, 1 July
Does Gatland know he has a bench?
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Replacements now ....horse has bolted I fear.
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Where is this great leader in Warburton, he looks like hes rolling over and letting the ABs tickle his tummy
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alfie wrote:eirebilly wrote:This could be it for Vunipola...
Indeed. That presumably has done for the Lions who will go down in history for blowing the chance of a lifetime
If they can't score against 14 how will they go at equal numbers...
They already scored against 14 men
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Faletau, what strength to get in
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60 minutes in and we see a Lions backs move!
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Aha ! My attempt at a "Trebell" seems to have worked as Faletau brings the scores closer
Work to do yet...
Work to do yet...
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Good finish...Faletau has spent that much time on the wing he should wear 11
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marty2086 wrote:RDW_Scotland wrote:Not very consistent to TMO that but not the earlier one against the Lions
Garces refuses to check a late tackle on Farrell yet stops play to look at one on Barrett?
Then takes an extra 5 yards when the TMO calls the mark for him?
ABs been in his ear at half time by any chance
He looks like a man who knows he sent off one of the home team's star players. That's a side issue, the real issue is brainless play from the lions
I think they lost the challenger mentality when Williams went off, suddenly thought they should win.
Great finish from faletau. Keeps it interesting.
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SOB off? He has been brilliant. I would have subbed Warburton off for Stander myself...
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My mistake with SOB.
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Back out to seven
Indiscipline
Indiscipline
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Connor Murray
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Maybe the Irish media was right to call the ABs a dirty side?
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