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Post by hugehandoff on Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:41 am

First topic message reminder :

A resurgent Wallabies arrive in town with a great opportunity to halt their run of defeats to England. They are in much better current form and are looking sharp. EJs is trying to test out a few new players and rotate his Lions with a long term RWC view. He has said he will take the odd defeat along the way if it helps develop the side longer term. I think this Sat could be one of those defeats.

I do agree with seeing how some different players cope and do not disagree with his approach. Therefore, we need to see Williams, George, Watson (at 15) all start. If Teo was fit I would also go Farrell at 10 and Teo at 12 with Slade at 13 (deserves 1 more go despite being poor on Sat).  

Once these AIs are over then I think the time for experimenting is done and we then play each match as if it is our last. This will enable the combinations to bed in and be battle hardened for RWC 2019.

Team: Watson, May, Joseph, Farrell, Daly; Ford, Youngs; M Vunipola, Hartley, Cole; Launchbury, Lawes; Robshaw, Underhill, Hughes.

Replacements: George, Marler, Williams, Itoje, Simmonds, Care, Slade, Rokoduguni.



Australia: 15 Kurtley Beale, 14 Marika Koroibete, 13 Tevita Kuridrani, 12 Samu Kerevi, 11 Reece Hodge, 10 Bernard Foley, 9 Will Genia; 1 Scott Sio, 2 Tatafu Polota-Nau, 3 Sekope Kepu, 4 Rob Simmons, 5 Adam Coleman, 6 Ned Hanigan, 7 Michael Hooper, 8 Sean McMahon
Replacements: 16 Stephen Moore, 17 Tom Robertson, 18 Allan Alaalatoa, 19 Matt Philip, 20 Ben McCalman, 21 Lopeti Timani, 22 Nick Phipps, 23 Kurtley Beale, 24 Henry Speight*

*one to be omitted


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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:32 am

Ah Robshaw man...England have been their own problem today

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:32 am

And now he numbe of pens is going to end with a yellow. No wriggle room.vunipola had to come off surely. But even now one scrum pen will result in a bin. Hard call.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:34 am

Simmonds on...big call in this gane!

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Post by Heaf on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:36 am

That offside pen was rubbish though they were all behind the back foot when the ball was lifted ...

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:37 am

Well. After being better we're well under pressure
Good call hooper

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:38 am

But well defended england.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:39 am

The Aussies will score with all this pressure

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:40 am

We have to keep the ball for a long period

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Post by Heaf on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:40 am

Aus offside at he line-out also - lifter clearly moved in front of catcher to block England.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:42 am

That karaveti or whatever he's called is cutting us to shreds

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:42 am

Kept it up no try.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:43 am

But gey say it is but obstruction. Penalty.

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Post by Heaf on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:44 am

Was the pass to Foley forwards too - looked like it to me

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:44 am

Definstely obstruction

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Post by mid_gen on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:44 am

Robshaw being very visible in his usual cleaning up the rubbish routine today.

If Daly had made an attempt to tackle and been blocked by Moore that would have been disallowed instantly. Not sure why Daly was spectating.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:46 am

Slade on huge vote of confidence.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:46 am

Ribshaw did well in his attempted tackle anyway

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Post by Heaf on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:47 am

For me he clearly obstructs

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:47 am

Chieka is a doylum

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:48 am

Bar his barging of Beale Robshaw has been quality.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:49 am

Yes Joseph

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Post by Heaf on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:49 am

So is Stuart Barnes

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Post by Duty281 on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:49 am

And that’s the game.

Not vintage, but job done.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:50 am

The Aussies will be whinging their way all the way back to Sydney!!!

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:52 am

Well. It's still going to be Itoje or Launchbury for motm. Can't see anyone else really.

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Post by mid_gen on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:52 am

Care making a very good case for the starting shirt again.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:52 am

Boom.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:55 am

Hope tj saved the quote now.

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Post by Pal Joey on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:55 am

GeordieFalcon wrote:The Aussies will be whinging their way all the way back to Sydney!!!

That's it... all over 5 minutes ago. 5-0 since the world cup!
Well done England. OK

in Sydney but not whinging. Disappointed though. Imagine sitting next to Cheika on the flight home... laughing
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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:55 am

Beshocked won't be happy....launchbury man of the match

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:57 am

The Loaded Dog wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:The Aussies will be whinging their way all the way back to Sydney!!!

That's it... all over 5 minutes ago. 5-0 since the world cup!
Well done England. OK

in Sydney but not whinging. Disappointed though. Imagine sitting next to Cheika on the flight home... laughing

My Aussie pals in Albury were adamant they were going to win this one. We had a bet on a case ...I'll have to come over to collect ha ha

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Post by mid_gen on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:57 am

Absolutely sensational from Care...the man's on fire!

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Post by Pal Joey on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:57 am

I tipped Oz by 5, lol... only 30 points off the mark!
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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:58 am

Well. ...

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Post by Pal Joey on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:58 am

GeordieFalcon wrote:
The Loaded Dog wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:The Aussies will be whinging their way all the way back to Sydney!!!

That's it... all over 5 minutes ago. 5-0 since the world cup!
Well done England. OK

in Sydney but not whinging. Disappointed though. Imagine sitting next to Cheika on the flight home... laughing

My Aussie pals in Albury were adamant they were going to win this one. We had a bet on a case ...I'll have to come over to collect ha ha

do you need a middle man to help collect? Laugh
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Post by Duty281 on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:59 am

Well..the score line is now vintage!

Harsh on Australia.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:59 am

I look forward to beshocked s remarks....After the highlights are shown on bbc.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:59 am

Launchbury deserved motm, excellent performance. I thought Robshaw was pretty average tbh, I'd be tempted to swap him out.

Flattering scoreline but OZ were disappointing. Don't see much in the OZ side to suggest they're improving. The game is 80mins, your last 10mins is as important as the first, if not more.

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Post by LuvSports! on Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:01 am

Swwwwiinnngggg lowwwwwwwwwwwwww

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:02 am

The Loaded Dog wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:
The Loaded Dog wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:The Aussies will be whinging their way all the way back to Sydney!!!

That's it... all over 5 minutes ago. 5-0 since the world cup!
Well done England. OK

in Sydney but not whinging. Disappointed though. Imagine sitting next to Cheika on the flight home... laughing

My Aussie pals in Albury were adamant they were going to win this one. We had a bet on a case ...I'll have to come over to collect ha ha

do you need a middle man to help collect? Laugh

Ha ha Yes!! I was over last October for 3 weeks. Went over to jinder byne and tom groggin etc.

Back next year probably


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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:02 am

That Aussie winger is insanely good!!! Wow.

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Post by Heaf on Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:03 am

Score-line was harsh - and unlucky for Aus that they made a forward pass that was missed to end the game and ended up conceding another try instead

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Post by Scottrf on Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:05 am

England are a very good side.

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Post by greenandpleasantland on Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:06 am

Hooper...a gentleman in his interview

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Post by mid_gen on Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:09 am

Nothing lucky about the score. Those last 3 tries were just excellent skills and execution, the better team.

How many times did Australia threaten our line?

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Post by Heaf on Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:10 am

Not saying it was lucky - just makes it look more one-sided than it was ...

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Post by Pal Joey on Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:10 am

Two near no-tries not good enough I'm afraid. They got punished straight after both 'near misses'.
Even with the ball they failed to hold onto it or turned it over at the crucial moment... or gave away a penalty.
They have only themselves to blame for the final scoreline.

If we don't beat Scotland, then I'll... steam
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Post by greenandpleasantland on Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:11 am

Farrell just gave his medal to a fan...well done sir

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:11 am

Lawes voted fans motm.

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Post by mid_gen on Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:13 am

greenandpleasantland wrote:Farrell just gave his medal to a fan...well done sir

Saw that, good lad.

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