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Post by maestegmafia on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:23 am

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Tonga


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Post by maestegmafia on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:24 am

ENG

15Elliot Daly, FB
14Anthony Watson, W
13Manu Tuilagi, C
12Owen Farrell, C
11Jonny May, W
10George Ford, FH
9Ben Youngs, SH
1Joe Marler, P
2Jamie George, H
3Kyle Sinckler, P
4Courtney Lawes, L
5Maro Itoje, L
6Tom Curry, FL
7Sam Underhill, FL
8Billy Vunipola, N8
REPLACEMENTS
16Luke Cowan-Dickie, R
17Ellis Genge, R
18Dan Cole, R
19George Kruis, R
20Lewis Ludlam, R
21Willi Heinz, R
22Henry Slade, R
23Jonathan Joseph, R


TONGA

15David Halaifonua, FB
14Atieli Pakalani, W
13Siale Piutau, C
12Cooper Vuna, C
11Viliami Lolohea, W
10Kurt Morath, FH
9Sonatane Takulua, SH
1Siegfried Fisi'ihoi, P
2Sosefo Sakalia, H
3Ben Tameifuna, P
4Sam Lousi, L
5Leva Fifita, L
6Sione Kalamafoni, FL
7Zane Kapeli, FL
8Maama Vaipulu, N8
REPLACEMENTS
16Siua Maile, R
17Latu Talakai, R
18Ma'afu Fia, R
19Daniel Faleafa, R
20Nasi Manu, R
21Leon Fukofuka, R
22James Faiva, R
23Nafi Tuitavake, R

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Post by maestegmafia on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:24 am

Tonga have a 985kg Scrum

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Post by WELL-PAST-IT on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:28 am

A lot of it in the front row and it wobbles

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Post by maestegmafia on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:29 am

Penalty england

All a bit hesitant this opening 10mins

But England definitely probing, going for tries...

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Post by maestegmafia on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:30 am

WELL-PAST-IT wrote:A lot of it in the front row and it wobbles

Yes, the red dot you may see slowly moving around your TV set is not a glitch but a Tongan tighthead prop

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:30 am

Tonga look too physical for you Wink

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Post by maestegmafia on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:31 am

Vunipola knocked flat on his back by the Tongan openside.

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Post by LondonTiger on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:31 am

Superb collision in Ugo's words, but completely illegal

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Post by Heaf on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:31 am

Did he use his arms?

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Post by maestegmafia on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:32 am

mikey_dragon wrote:Tonga look too physical for you Wink

For me?

Definitely. I wouldn’t last five minutes

Pen to Tonga to equalise ?

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Post by kingelderfield on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:32 am

Keep cool. Keep changing the point of attack.
Non predictable attack options.
Its good eere in a game.

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Post by maestegmafia on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:32 am

Ministry of silly walks technique is a success and it’s all even

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Post by Heaf on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:33 am

Maybe the refs are ignoring shoulder barges as well as offside ...

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Post by WELL-PAST-IT on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:33 am

no, lead shoulder hit in the cheat outside arm didn't get close

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Post by WELL-PAST-IT on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:35 am

was that 12 supporting his own weight

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Post by WELL-PAST-IT on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:35 am

NO

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Post by Heaf on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:35 am

let's hope the standard of the officiating improves during the tournament too ...

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Post by maestegmafia on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:36 am

What is amazing about the Tongan tighthead, Ben Tameifuna, is that he is 1.84m tall.

Which I think makes him 1.54m wide


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Post by maestegmafia on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:37 am

England are giving away a lot of needless penalties

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Post by LondonTiger on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:39 am

Forward passes being ignored I see

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Post by Heaf on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:39 am

true - but the ref has also failed to award 2 clear pens against Tonga

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Post by Heaf on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:40 am

now the ref is blocking passes too

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Post by LondonTiger on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:41 am

Tonga blowing already

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:43 am

LondonTiger wrote:Tonga blowing already

Yeah that's quite noticeable. If they're as unfit as last year they'll concede 70 points.

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Post by WELL-PAST-IT on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:43 am

what about the head role?

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Post by maestegmafia on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:43 am

LondonTiger wrote:Forward passes being ignored I see

The list is growing

Things to be ignored by referees RWC 2019


1. Scrum feeds

2. Five seconds to play the ball at rucks, mauls and scrums

3. Illegal tackles

4. The TMO and Touch Judges

5. Offside

6. Common Sense

7. The player having the ball when he crosses the try line

8. Forward Passes


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Post by mikey_dragon on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:45 am

Going by other comments;

8. Ireland pulling down the scrum.

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Post by Heaf on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:45 am

Poor all round from the officials so far ...

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Post by maestegmafia on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:46 am

mikey_dragon wrote:Going by other comments;

8. Ireland pulling down the scrum.

Not just Ireland

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Post by ebop on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:46 am

Try, really?
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Post by maestegmafia on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:46 am

9. Grounding the ball.

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Post by WELL-PAST-IT on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:47 am

that looked a bit iffy to me

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Post by maestegmafia on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:47 am

ebop wrote:Try, really?

Apparently if you have a Tongan leg under the ball it doesn’t matter. It’s in the same appendix as the new rule about you not needing to have the ball when you cross the try line as we saw in the last match

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Post by ebop on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:48 am

Eddie, lol
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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:49 am

Yeah grounding the ball over the try line results in try. Harsh I know.

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Post by kingelderfield on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:50 am

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No Personal Attacks

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Post by ebop on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:51 am

We all know you have glaucoma 7.5 so unfortunately we can’t take your opinion seriously
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Post by maestegmafia on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:51 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:Yeah grounding the ball over the try line results in try. Harsh I know.

You miss understand, what we are saying is that we all thought when you clearly have an opposition player under the ball as you cross the try line that the try should NOT be awarded.

Clearly this is another amendment to the rules pe-RWC.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:53 am

As happened with underhill Maes.
Ebop back to simply bad wumming then.

No personal attacks as mentioned to a poster above

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Post by maestegmafia on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:55 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:As happened with underhill Maes.
Ebop back to simply bad wumming then.

Great try there where Tuilagi crossed line without a defender under the ball.

The previous try the ball was not grounded, it was another bad refereeing decision.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 11:56 am

Stop wumming maes.

No personal attacks as mentioned to a poster above

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 12:00 pm

Not personal. Simply asking you to stop.thpugh I've noticed you removed a pop at welsh posters but left up ebops comment.

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Post by maestegmafia on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 12:03 pm

7.5

We have a difference of opinion. You think a try should be allowed

Myself and a number of other people disagree with you.


We are not doing this to wind you up. We don’t care whether you are wound up or not. We care about rugby being a great game that is fair and just with its laws applied correctly and accurately.

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Post by maestegmafia on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 12:04 pm

Late and high no arm hit on Watson there

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Post by ebop on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 12:04 pm

7.5, I’m insulted that you think I’m wumming just because you are as blind as a bat, shame on you, get a grip of yourself
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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 12:05 pm

You lot need to read the laws and come back. Its embarrassing.

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Post by englishborn on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 12:06 pm

Since the ref has a much better look at the ball on the ground, should we not trust his on field decision?

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Post by kingelderfield on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 12:07 pm

This could be really tough on the Tongan player.
Was it malicious? No way. Play on.

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Post by WELL-PAST-IT on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 12:07 pm

good decision

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