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Post by Guest Mon 01 Aug 2011, 6:10 pm

ratings for the test, let me know what you think

England

Strauss- 6 gets the marks mainly for captaincy
Cook- 5 batting way below par
Trott- 4 hard to judge based on his injury
KP- 8 very good half century
Bell- 10 very good 150
Morgan- 8 half century showing signs of coming back into form
Prior- 8- never lets the side down
Bresnan- 10- 90 and 5 wickets
Broad- 10- man of the match performance
Swann-3 poor first innings with the ball (rare)
Anderson- 7

India

Mukund- 2 awful form showed in second innings with 3 from 41 balls
Dravid- 9 very good hundred in the first innings
Laxman- 5
Tendulkar- 8 very good fifty in the second innings
Raina- 3 awful against the short ball
Yuvraj- 5
Dhoni-3 awful with the bat and the gloves
Harbajhan- 4- gets the marks for 2nd innings 46
Kumar- 9 very good 5for
Ishant- 5
Sreesanth-5


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Post by robbo277 Mon 01 Aug 2011, 6:15 pm

I don't know how a batsman (Mukund) can't get a higher ranking out of 10 than he scored runs in the test, especially as he didn't really chip in with anything else during the test.

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Post by Guest Mon 01 Aug 2011, 6:16 pm

huh

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Post by robbo277 Mon 01 Aug 2011, 6:25 pm

Mukund made 3 runs, yet he got a 5.

He didn't bowl, he wasn't inspirational in the field and he isn't a captain. Not sure how he can get a higher ranking than his run total. Should have got a King Pair anyway!

I would give him a 1 if the rankings are 1-10, 0 if I can go lower. He tried hard, but he was all at sea - couldn't live with the bowling.

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Post by Guest Mon 01 Aug 2011, 6:28 pm

that was a typo.

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Post by GSC Mon 01 Aug 2011, 6:32 pm

Mukund gets a 1 from me.

Bell deducted 1 for the run out.

Dhoni gets 1 for the run out, which brings him to 1 overall for me.

8 for Tendulkar is generous, given Laxman had a better game for me and got a beauty in the 2nd.

5 for Cook is generous, he'd be hovering around the 1 mark too.
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Post by robbo277 Mon 01 Aug 2011, 6:35 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:that was a typo.

Fair enough, it didn't look right!

I'd disagree with some of the others, but that one just stood out.

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Post by Guest Mon 01 Aug 2011, 6:57 pm

what are the others you would disagree with mate?

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Post by ShankyCricket Mon 01 Aug 2011, 7:27 pm

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its very rare that we agree on things but this might well be one of those rare occasions.
but i would give laxman higher than 5.he was excellent in the 1st innings and in the 2nd innings he got out to an unplayable delivery.cant blame him much.

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Post by ShankyCricket Mon 01 Aug 2011, 7:27 pm

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its very rare that we agree on things but this might well be one of those rare occasions.
but i would give laxman higher than 5.he was excellent in the 1st innings and in the 2nd innings he got out to an unplayable delivery.cant blame him much.

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Post by Smile Mon 01 Aug 2011, 8:13 pm

A 5 for Cook when he was well below average. Your marks are to generous.

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Post by longhopmerchant Mon 01 Aug 2011, 8:15 pm

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Mukund 0
Dravid 8
Laxman 6
Tendulkar 5
Raina 2
Yuvraj 5
Dhoni 0
Harbhajan 0
Ishant 4
Sreesanth 5
Kumar 7

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Mon 01 Aug 2011, 11:44 pm

England

Strauss 5 - captained well (for instance bringing Cook in the ball before Yuvraéj got out) and battled hard with the bat, but is a bit short of form.
Cook 2 - didn't score any runs (though got a poor decision in the first innings) and dopped a catch (though not an important one).
Trott 3 - injudicious drive in the first dig, then got injured.
Pietersen 7 - got out after doing the hard work in the first innings, but a very important 70 in the second. Bad drop off Yuvraj in the first innings.
Bell 10 - goes from strength to strength, played the match-winning innings, and the best he's ever batted for England.
Morgan 7 - nice second innings knock.
Prior 7 - more runs, scored quickly and demoralised the Indians. Kept pretty well on a tough pitch to keep on (uneven bounce).
Bresnan 10 - people were wrong about him not being good enough. Fantastic second innings 90 and backed it up with his first test 5-for.
Broad 10 - eight wickets, over 100 runs including a precious 60 in the first innings when England were 124-8. Deservedly MOM and is in the form of his life.
Swann 4 - bowled poorly (possibly due to injury) but important first innings runs.
Anderson 7 - Not great in the first innings, but much improved in the second as England ruthlessly bullied the Indian batsmen.

India:

Mukund 0 - sorry but this guy's not good enough to open in test cricket.
Dravid 9 - another brilliant hundred in vain, got a beauty in the second innings.
Laxman 7 - important first innings fifty, got a corker in the second.
Tendulkar 5 - first innings played a rash shot when England were on the back foot, second innings a pleasant fifty, but India need more from him.
Raina 1 - for his fielding. Two awful shots, still can't play the short ball.
Yuvraj 7 - good 60 in the first dig, and tried hard in the second after being hit on the hand.
Dhoni 1 - for calling Bell back, he gets a point. Keeping was woeful and batting appalling. Is the captaincy becoming a burden?
Harbhajan Singh 2 - decent second innings runs when all was lost, and unlucky in the first innings. Bowling completely unthreatening.
Kumar 8 - bowled well and stuck to his task.
Sharma 4 - can bowl good spells, but they're few and too far between.
Sreesanth 4 - way too expensive, particularly on day 1.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Tue 02 Aug 2011, 12:48 pm

My ratings :

England 2
India 0

or if you look at it another way
England 1
India 2

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Post by Guest Tue 02 Aug 2011, 4:23 pm

lol im suprised people havent absouletly ripped into me about my ratings that i gave

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Post by Liam_Main Tue 02 Aug 2011, 10:23 pm

England

Strauss- 4
Cook- 3
Trott- 4
KP- 7
Bell- 10
Morgan- 7
Prior- 7
Bresnan- 10
Broad- 10
Swann- 3
Anderson- 6

India

Mukund- 0
Dravid- 9
Laxman- 7
Tendulkar- 7
Raina- 2
Yuvraj- 6
Dhoni- 1
Harbajhan- 2
Kumar- 8
Ishant- 4
Sreesanth- 5
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Post by robbo277 Tue 02 Aug 2011, 10:39 pm

I think Cook is rated too high. Good player, poor game. 2 with his catch.

I would think about not rating Trott, because of his injury. I suppose you could extend that to Harbhajan Singh as well.

I'd say Dhoni is too high, 5 and a golden duck, keeping was nothing better than average and his captaincy was poor (Bell's reprieve apart). Probably give him a 2.

Raina too high. Made 13 runs in 2 innings, didn't chip in anywhere else. 1.

They're only minor tweaks, other than Makund who looked too high on 5!

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Post by Fists of Fury Tue 02 Aug 2011, 10:45 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:My ratings :

England 2
India 0

or if you look at it another way
England 1
India 2

Very Happy bravo, sir.

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Post by Gregers Tue 02 Aug 2011, 11:33 pm

My ratings:

England:
Strauss 5 - Captaincy improved. Made two starts but didn't go on.
Cook 4 - Didn't do much, but shined the ball up brilliantly.
Trott 3 - Injury made marking him hard. For before the injury is give him a 5.
Pieterson 6 - Made a decent 60-odd but didn't go on. Dropped a sitter at the beginning of Yuvraj's innings (which dropped him a point)
Bell 9 - Brilliant 150, dropped a point for his involvement in the incident
Morgan 6 - Still not convinced he's a test batsmen. His innings in the second innings was good but he should have converted.
Prior 8 - Brilliant behind the stumps, batted really well in the second innings.
Bresnan 9 - Great 90 and and a sensational 5fer. He has yet to lose a test match!
Broad 10 - Man of the Match. Changed the game with both bat and ball.
Swann 5 - Mainly for his batting in the first innings alongside Broad.
Anderson 8 - Good as ever, bowler well in both innings

India:

Mukund 2 - Cannot play the short ball. Fairly good in the field.
Dravid 8 - Great century. The great wall of India.
Laxman 6 - Looked good in the first innings but didn't convert.
Tendulkar 7 - Back in form. The only Indian batsmen to stand up in the second innings.
Raina 2 - Lively in the field. Shown up by the short ball again.
Yuvraj 6 - Bowler okay, batted well in the first innings.
Dhoni 2 - Would have been one except for overturning that appeal. Awful with the bat, even worse with the gloves.
Harbhajan 3 - Based on his innings in the final stages. Awful bowling and fielding.
Kumar 8 - Bowled well, had a swing of the bat. Can hold his head high.
Ishant 5 - Weirdly ineffective, Bowled well early on.
Sreesanth 6 - Brilliant on the first morning, became increasingly anonymous.

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Post by msp83 Fri 05 Aug 2011, 7:22 pm

India.
Mukund 2.
Dravid 8.
Laxman 6.
Tendulkar 6.
Raina 2.
Yuvraj 6.
Dhoni 2.
Harbhajan 1.
Kumar 8.
Sharma 4.
Sreesanth 6.
England.
Strauss 5.
Cook 2.
Trott 2.
Pietersen 7.
Bell 8.
Morgan 6.
Prior 7.
Bresnan 9.5.
Broad 9.5.
Swann 5.
Anderson 6.

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Post by Liam_Main Fri 05 Aug 2011, 7:34 pm

msp83 wrote:India.
Mukund 2.
Dravid 8.
Laxman 6.
Tendulkar 6.
Raina 2.
Yuvraj 6.
Dhoni 2.
Harbhajan 1.
Kumar 8.
Sharma 4.
Sreesanth 6.
England.
Strauss 5.
Cook 2.
Trott 2.
Pietersen 7.
Bell 8.
Morgan 6.
Prior 7.
Bresnan 9.5.
Broad 9.5.
Swann 5.
Anderson 6.

Broad and Bresnan 9 and a half?! After the matches they had. What does it take to get a 10?
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Post by msp83 Fri 05 Aug 2011, 7:42 pm

the biggest room in the world is the room for improvement!.

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Post by Liam_Main Fri 05 Aug 2011, 7:43 pm

msp83 wrote:the biggest room in the world is the room for improvement!.

How could they possibly improve in that match?
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Post by Liam_Main Fri 05 Aug 2011, 7:44 pm

Both bowled superb line and length, took wickets and chipped in with some runs.
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Post by msp83 Fri 05 Aug 2011, 8:05 pm

May be Bresnan should have converted his knock into a 100, and Broad should have made a better use of the new ball in India's first innings. Didn't Bresnan miss a half chance in the field as well??
A perfect 10 is for an absolutely perfect performance.
Broad and Bresnan has had outstnding games for sure, I don't quite fancy a perfect 10. A perfect 10 for me should be for a ones in a life time performance, like Botham in 1981, Anil Kumble in 1999, VVS Laxman in 2001, or Flintoff in 2005.

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Post by ShankyCricket Fri 05 Aug 2011, 8:57 pm

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Swann 5??

he was awful at TB tbh.

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Post by msp83 Sat 06 Aug 2011, 8:24 am

shankythebiggestengfan wrote:Msp

Swann 5??

he was awful at TB tbh.

His crucial, crucial runs at 10 made a huge difference I think. He stuck it out with Broad out there, and a poor score was converted into a fighting one. Didn't do much with the ball, I suppose the knock that he took from PK was a factor in that.

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