Top 10 South African batsmen since re-admission.

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Seeing that the cricket season is upon us, I thought it would be interesting to see who the top ten batsmen have been for South Africa since their re-admission.

Jacques Kallis
Tests 145, Innings 246, Not outs 38, Runs 11947, Average 57.43, Hundreds 40, Fifties 54

Greame Smith
Tests 91, Innings 159, Not outs 9, Runs 7457, Average 49.71, Hundreds 22, Fifties 29

AB de Villiers
Tests 66, Innings 113, Not outs 13, Runs 4741, Average 47.41 ,Hundreds 12, Fifties 23

Hashim Amla
Tests 51, Innings 90, Not outs 7, Runs 3897, Average 46.95, Hundreds 12, Fifties 19

Gary Kirsten
Tests 101, Innings 176, Not outs 15, Runs 7289, Average 45.27, Hundreds 21, Fifties 34

Darryl Cullinan
Tests 70, Innings 115, Not outs 12, Runs 4554, Average 44.21, Hundreds 14, Fifties 20

Ashwell Prince
Tests 62, Innings 98, Not outs 16, Runs 3556, Average 43.36, Hundreds 11, Fifties 10

Herschelle Gibbs
Tests 90, Innings 154, Not outs 7, Runs 6167, Average 41.95, Hundreds 14, Fifties 26

Brian McMillan
Tests 38, Innings 62, Not outs 12, Runs 1968, Average 39.36, Hundreds 3, Fifties 13

Kepler Wessels
Tests 16, Innings 29, Not outs 2, Runs 1027, Average 38.03, Hundreds 2, Fifties 6

It is clear from these match averages that Jacques Kallis has not only been our most valuable player as a batsman, but taking into consideration that he has taken close to 300 wickets as well most definitely our most valued player.

I once read in Alan Donald's autobiography where he said, Kallis is not the sharpest tool in the shed. Perhaps it has more to do with his sigleminded dogged determination to focus on the job at hand that makes him percieved as a little blunt.

It is also quite scary to think we don't have 10 batsman in the modern era that acerages more than 40, let alone 45 per innings.

What is very encouraging to see though, is that our top four modern day bastman are all currently still playing for the Proteas. Question remains how long will Kallis still continue?

Lets not get too wound up about this.

We have all shown why AB >>>> KP.

The only English Saffer who could probably stake for a place in the SA side IMO would be Prior

Gregers wrote:Lets not get too wound up about this.

We have all shown why AB >>>> KP.

The only English Saffer who could probably stake for a place in the SA side IMO would be Prior

Just had a bit of fun mate.No one is getting wound up.
BTW you still havent answered my question.

I meant wound up about yesterday

I would think that English cricket fans must have an affinity for SA cricket, seeing that our players could almost be related.

Gregers wrote:I meant wound up about yesterday

On which thread?

TBH I'm very surprised that SA aren't ODI and Test world leaders. Your side is immense!

Gregers
Mate would you plz answer my question?Why is my opinion null after yesterday?

Dont worry about it Shanks, I'm sure you will work it out eventually.

Anyways, biltongbek. Could you see Prior in the SA side? Or any of the other SEnglish?

Gregers wrote:Dont worry about it Shanks, I'm sure you will work it out eventually.

Anyways, biltongbek. Could you see Prior in the SA side? Or any of the other SEnglish?

No I cant work it out,sorry.Plz tell me.

Gregers wrote:TBH I'm very surprised that SA aren't ODI and Test world leaders. Your side is immense!

We always seem to threaten at the top, but rarely break through to number one. I am OK with that, as long as we always remain competitive against all opponents.

Gregers wrote:Dont worry about it Shanks, I'm sure you will work it out eventually.

Anyways, biltongbek. Could you see Prior in the SA side? Or any of the other SEnglish?

I would think Prior most definitely yes, but once again depends what Gary Kirsten would do, de Villiers will most likely become our fulltime wicketkeeper once boucher retires, but having a wicket keeper batsman with Prior's record sure is a benefit, also whoooooooooooooo's that spinner you guys have again? wouldn't mind having him though, even if there is no bloodline linking him to SA.

dont you think there is a danger of making abdv the full-time wicketkeeper in tests ?

look at the huge difference in sangakarra's figures between tests where he was also keeper and those he played purely as a batsman

rich1uk wrote:dont you think there is a danger of making abdv the full-time wicketkeeper in tests ?

look at the huge difference in sangakarra's figures between tests where he was also keeper and those he played purely as a batsman

Hopefully not, there is a new guy in the squad Heino Kuhn, has a solid average of 44 with the bat at first class level and a very good keeper. I would think kirsten is looking at him to grow into the squad.

biltongbek wrote:

rich1uk wrote:dont you think there is a danger of making abdv the full-time wicketkeeper in tests ?

look at the huge difference in sangakarra's figures between tests where he was also keeper and those he played purely as a batsman

Hopefully not, there is a new guy in the squad Heino Kuhn, has a solid average of 44 with the bat at first class level and a very good keeper. I would think kirsten is looking at him to grow into the squad.

Kuhn looks pretty damn good tbh (what I've seen of him)

biltongbek wrote:

rich1uk wrote:dont you think there is a danger of making abdv the full-time wicketkeeper in tests ?

look at the huge difference in sangakarra's figures between tests where he was also keeper and those he played purely as a batsman

Hopefully not, there is a new guy in the squad Heino Kuhn, has a solid average of 44 with the bat at first class level and a very good keeper. I would think kirsten is looking at him to grow into the squad.

i had heard about kuhn , was just replying to what you said about expecting abdv to take over as full-time keeper in your previous post

smith has done well but he mention has to go to gibbs

gibbs was fantastic but does get a bit carried away

jro786 wrote:smith has done well but he mention has to go to gibbs

gibbs was fantastic but does get a bit carried away

Yeah, but would you really want him any other way?

for me he was a great entertainer, if it was his day he would slap the toffee out of anyone.

I'll never forget his 175 of 109 balls or whatever it was against australia inthe famous ODI.

Demon Racer wrote:

Gregers wrote:Hardly.

Who is probably the best number 4 in the world at the moment? AB

Being a South African, and being more than biased, there's currently a guy called Tendulkar who bats at 4 and he's slightly decent with the willow.

No need for that DR, gregers loves KP!, and he won't mind saying Chris Martin is a better bat than Pietersen!!!!!.

Is Cronje not there because of what he did off the field?
Is average the only way to assess the best 10?

msp83 wrote:Is Cronje not there because of what he did off the field?
Is average the only way to assess the best 10?

IMO, cronje isnt one of the best south african batsmen ever anyway.

cricketfan90 wrote:

msp83 wrote:Is Cronje not there because of what he did off the field?
Is average the only way to assess the best 10?

IMO, cronje isnt one of the best south african batsmen ever anyway.

Cronje for me, is anyday, a better bat than say someone like Brian McMillen

Andrew Strauss,
Jonathan Trott
Kevin Pietersen.

Wow, one more wind up from you and it'll be the last time you post anything on this site.

I can only see you getting wind up. No one else has objected.

wow wrote:I can only see you getting wind up. No one else has objected.

Shut up.Others havent reacted because its pointless talking to you.

And what do you mean by one more?? Which of my posts have been objected by anyone before?

shankythebiggestengfan wrote:

wow wrote:I can only see you getting wind up. No one else has objected.

Shut up.Others havent reacted because its pointless talking to you.

And this is how you react. Does show what kind of person you are.

It is Shanky who needs a ban for being offensive and not me.

I was just ignoring him TBH Fists.

wow, honest question for you: imagine you were born say in Germany (why not?) but then moved to France aged three, so that you barely even remember Germany if at all. Would you consider yourself German or French? If you were very talented at a given sport (maybe football), good enough to play at international level, would you most likely be representing Germany or France? Considering of course that you were brought up in France, learned to play football in France, played football in France your whole life.

Hypothetical of course...

Sainty wrote:Can we jack in the bickering lads.

Sainty, just let me know who turns my thread into a hijacking and wumming session, I have resources you know.

No worries, biltong

biltongbek wrote:

Sainty wrote:Can we jack in the bickering lads.

Sainty, just let me know who turns my thread into a hijacking and wumming session, I have resources you know.

haha lol

lol

I agree that Cronje was a better bat than McMillian.