England vs Ireland match discussion thread

[Adam D]

First topic message reminder :

Last game of this years 6 Nations.

Discuss it here.

[mystiroakey]

oh my did we actually get a motm then!! about time to, i didnt think it was fashionable!

[lostinwales]

And I hate the comparisons game but with Farrell it is starting to be penalty in opposition half = automatic 3 points. The 'zombie stare' is also a lot more fun than the old 'clasping hands while having problems going to the toilet' pose

[Hound_of_Harrow]

Many of Ireland's players looked disinterested in that game. It was almost like they wanted to be back at their Provinces for the HC quarters.

That was a very good win for England, and a solid platform to build on. I think most of us want to see more creativity from the backs. Flood must come back in; Farrell is not a good distributor and his kicking from hand is often aimless.

Dan Cole is my England man of the 6N.

[gowales]

And I hate the comparisons game but with Farrell it is starting to be penalty in opposition half = automatic 3 points. The 'zombie stare' is also a lot more fun than the old 'clasping hands while having problems going to the toilet' pose

that made me laugh

[yappysnap]

Graham Rowntree was my MoM

[trebellbobaggins]

Can't agree on Flood returning. He just never gives the direction and solidity that Farrel is giving. Personally i think Farrel played spot on for the conditions there but the France game showed he can move the ball. Flood is very too likely to drop his head when it's tough and it lets us down.

[english warrior]

So ends a far better 6 nations than i could have hoped for, and for that i'm truly ecstatic, but don't tell me that this Wales team is the real deal, or deserves a 3rd GS in 8 years, because they are just not that good.

Just shows how bad England and France are to allow this to happen. Lots of positives from the Competition, for England and Lancaster is a major plus!!

[eirebilly]

Jaysus, i have just read through this again. My god i was on one so apologies if i offended anyone

All in all, England dominated in all areas of the match. SL totally out thought Kidney and deserves all the plaudits. Its been a while since i have seen an English team put an Irish team under so much pressure that their game disintegrates. Excellent stuff from England. It wasnt a case of Ireland playing badly, it was a case of England forcing Ireland to play badly by dominating them so much.

[trebellbobaggins]

Cheers Billy. It was something we'vnot seen in a very long time. I was most impressed with them. Really hope SL stays.

[eirebilly]

No probs trebbs

[HammerofThunor]

It's weird, we hardly ever beat Ireland but when we do it tends to be spanking (although really that's only a trend of 2 , 2008 and 2012)

[trebellbobaggins]

We keep tonking each other of late. Since 03 it all seems rather intense.

[Pot Hale]

So does that mean Ireland will thrash England 36-3 next year?

At least that's one game out of the way then on Feb 10.

[eirebilly]

So does that mean Ireland will thrash England 36-3 next year?

At least that's one game out of the way then on Feb 10.

Depends if Declan Kidney is still in charge

[rodders]

A belated congratulations to England from me .

Very painful viewing from an Ireland perspective. England were better at every single aspect of the game and absolutely beasted us at the the scrum and breakdown. England have really grown since last year and a lot of positives for them.

Ireland were a shambles in the second half and a good pasting has been on the cards for a long time. Its been a very disappointing tournament.

Roll on the HEC.

[Gibson]

Bollox. England are mediocre at best.

[rodders]

Bollox. England are mediocre at best.

Hmm well I'll let others debate that Gibson....I'm more concerned about the state we're in right now. Regardless of how good England are they gave us a right pasting.

On this 6N both Wales and England are better than us, thats for sure. We have been well off the pace.

[mystiroakey]

Bollox. England are mediocre at best.

ok yep we are considering the heights we have reached- so what are ireland?

[Pal Joey]

Medi-evil?

[eirebilly]

Bollox. England are mediocre at best.

One of the best efforts i have seen . view would be proud of you Gibbo

[Rava]

Maybe Cari got hold of his laptop.

[Pal Joey]

You mean after spiking his drinks yesterday?

[Rava]

He doesnt need anyone to spike his drinks! He's capable of doing that himself.

[Pal Joey]

I believe you Rava. I was impressed to hear about your epic session with him the other week.

[Rava]

He's like a good whiskEy. Creeps up on you.

[Pal Joey]

I'd be in intensive care after a night out with you two.

[Rava]

Can't wait mate. Reckon you could hold your own though

[Pal Joey]

The adrenalin would get me across the line... I'd hope!

[Gibson]

Bollox. England are mediocre at best.

One of the best efforts i have seen . view would be proud of you Gibbo

That Guanayan poteen is some pish-taking stuff.

Nah, really meant to say England are a great young team in development, but de drink wouldnt let me...

[Portnoy]

"Nah, really meant to say England are a great young team in development, but de drink wouldnt let me... " I should feckin' think so Gibbo.

[eirebilly]

Bollox. England are mediocre at best.

One of the best efforts i have seen . view would be proud of you Gibbo

That Guanayan poteen is some pish-taking stuff.

Nah, really meant to say England are a great young team in development, but de drink wouldnt let me...

That will knock you on you arsh

[geoff998rugby]

This is superb analysis

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0324/1224313818427.html

written by Emmett Bryne.
Three snippets I will highlight but the whole thing is worth a good read.

it is crucial that the tighthead gets his left shoulder under the opposition hooker. - this is what Court did't do

Unfortunately for the penalty try in the second and third scrums Cole managed to split Healy and Best.

By the time Tom Court came on Ireland were psychologically on the back foot already

The last two points clearly indicated thast it was down to far more than Tom Court

[rodders]

Yes I read that Geoff. Brilliant article.

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