Euro 2012: Day 4 Thread

[Duty281]

First topic message reminder :

France v England (17:00 ITV 1)
Ukraine v Sweden (19:45 BBC 1)

The 4th and final group commences tomorrow and it starts with a mouthwatering game between England and France. France are favourites for the game and some people's pick to win the whole thing, but never say never for England. The day is rounded off by co-hosts Ukraine playing the unfancied Swedes.

Come on England!

[GSC]

Imagine if Giggs didn't decide to waste his international career

:'(

[Liam]

What like playing for Wales because he was Welsh. Yeh what an idiot. At least the problem has been solved by Garethhhh ahhh yeh he's Welsh as well. We only produce good left wingers, just to p off England

[GSC]

S'alright we have the Ox now

[Crimey]

Giggs could never play for England.

[GSC]

I got confused cause he played for England schoolboys. Ah well.

[cremmer]

I think it's a good move playing Ox and I just hope he has a solid game. Without Rooney, he's the one really exciting player we have.

[GSC]

Rooney still doesn't know the national anthem I see

[GSC]

Benzema at least has an excuse, being Algerian and all.

[Crimey]

The England players look utterly terrified.

[cremmer]

That's gotta be 7 or 8 long balls already and we're only 6 mins in

[Crimey]

The goalkeeper shirt is horrible. Worse than the Everton one.

[Guest]

That's gotta be 7 or 8 long balls already and we're only 6 mins in

Did you expect anything different?!

[Crimey]

We're playing much better than I expected.

Seeing a lot more of the ball. Pressing as well.

[cremmer]

The goalkeeper shirt is horrible. Worse than the Everton one.

I dunno. It's got shades of an illuminous England keeper top I had as a kid!

[cremmer]

That's gotta be 7 or 8 long balls already and we're only 6 mins in

Did you expect anything different?!

No but I thought they'd wait at least 10 mins to start doing it!

[mystiroakey]

I think you guys are watching a different game in fairness. we look the better team at present

[Crimey]

I think it's still 50/50 and France look pretty dangerous going forward.

[Josiah Maiestas]

Gerrard is rubbish. Just mindless running around with no intellect.

[mystiroakey]

Not as dangerous as england tho. and we look more organised at the back.

1 or 2 nil england

[Guest]

Bang!!!

[Crimey]

Gerrard is rubbish. Just mindless running around with no intellect.

Absolute nonsense....

per usual.

[Mad for Chelsea]

LESCOTT! Good start for England!

[mystiroakey]

Sweet ... deserved as well

[Josiah Maiestas]

Thatll be the only attacking move of the game for Stevie. Dire for the rest of it.

[Crimey]

I'm sick of people saying that Glen Johnson is England's weak link, he's been an assured defender for Liverpool and England for at least 18 months. Just as Ashley Cole was often criticised for a lack of defensive nous, Johnson has matured as a footballer.

Saying that, I could be jinxing him.

[cremmer]

Great stuff! He was always going to get on that

[Josiah Maiestas]

Oxlade is another idiot. Mindless sliding tackles in the first game... really?

[Crimey]

Thatll be the only attacking move of the game for Stevie. Dire for the rest of it.

He's clearly been told to sit back in midfield rather than make bombing runs into the box.

He's made some good passes so far, opened up the defence at one point.

[Josiah Maiestas]

Jesus..

That number 18 for France I thought he was Sol Campbell for a second.

[Crimey]

Oxlade is another idiot. Mindless sliding tackles in the first game... really?

Sick of reading and responding to your nonsense. You've been foed, and I think anybody else who is bored of you, which includes a good many people, should do the same.

[Josiah Maiestas]

Look how defensive England players are without the ball. Its only the first half not the 85th minute..

[cremmer]

I'm sick of people saying that Glen Johnson is England's weak link, he's been an assured defender for Liverpool and England for at least 18 months. Just as Ashley Cole was often criticised for a lack of defensive nous, Johnson has matured as a footballer.

Saying that, I could be jinxing him.

I've always really liked Johnson. How many modern full-backs are great defenders anyway?

[Crimey]

That's disappointing.

[owen10ozzy]

There is a difference between soaking up pressure intelligently and then just sitting back and standing off your man! Thats what happens when you dont close down your man.

Any fricking idiot could see that coming...why would Roy not be screaming at his players to get tight on their man!!

[Josiah Maiestas]

Disgusting lazy defending let Nasri free. Hodgson couldnt manage his dinner. The England midfield doesnt really exist.. does it?

[Josiah Maiestas]

Milner shouldnt be in the squad he can't keep possesion. Leon Britton from Swansea should be there.

[owen10ozzy]

Not one of our midfield is capable of keeping the ball. Can count at least 20 occasions they have needlessly given the ball away already. We are giving the French too much time on the ball...if your going to play defensive and look to break you have to put pressure on the player on the ball in the final 3rd...look to win it then get the midfielders (excluding Parker) out and supporting the strikers quickly.

[Crimey]

We just sat back after scoring the goal, hopefully we can start playing the way we were before the goal after half time.

[Guest]

Welbeck and Young towards the end of that first half just not seeing as much of the ball. Hope the 2nd half we start to bring them back into the game. Impressed with Oxlade-Chamberlain.

[Guest]

I think we all would have taken 1-1 at half time? A bit too standoffish at the end of that period but we've played quite well in general.

[owen10ozzy]

Standard...thats what we always do. 1 Goal is never enough in football...can understand if we are 2 up or its 1-0 with 5 mins to play. But 1-0 up with 60 minutes still to go...the opposition can probe and attack intelligently without sacrificing to many forward thereby neulifying the threat of being hit on the counter.

England sit too deep, which is fine if you pressure when the ball gets 25 yards from goal...but not if you just sit on the edge of the box and allow the other team as much time on the ball as they want.

[mystiroakey]

Ok the french showed there quality at the end. but its as if we got nervous. we gotta just beleive we are better and take em out. come on england

[Guest]

Nasri is a fantastic footballer but I'd love to slap that face of his.....hard.

[mystiroakey]

The french are a fancy fooballing team . if we keep intensity levels we can boss them.. Step up england.

[Mad for Chelsea]

Gerrard and Parker guilty of standing off too much for the goal. Young and OX looking dangerous on the ball, Cole excellent as usual, Milner not good enough for this level.

[Crimey]

Milner is clearly the weakest player in our team.

[Guest]

Milner is clearly the weakest player in our team.

He's having a shocker isn't he.

[Crimey]

I think he and Chamberlain won't last the full 90. Downing and Walcott to come on.

[Gibson]

England are playing ok here. Tight enough game. France look dangerous though.

[Crimey]

I can't tell if we're playing well or we've just overrated the French.

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