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Post by eirebilly Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:28 am

Now that England have the number one position back, SA will be keen to beat them at Lords to regain the #1 spot and England will be desperate to consolidate the #1. This has the makings of a very good match.

I cant see any team making any changes from the third ODI.

England 1 Alastair Cook (capt), 2 Ian Bell, 3 Jonathan Trott, 4 Ravi Bopara, 5 Eoin Morgan, 6 Craig Kieswetter (wk), 7 Samit Patel, 8 James Tredwell, 9 Jade Dernbach, 10 James Anderson, 11 Steve Finn.

South Africa 1 Graeme Smith, 2 Hashim Amla, 3 JP Duminy, 4 Dean Elgar, 5 AB de Villiers (capt, wk), 6 Faf du Plessis, 7 Wayne Parnell, 8 Robin Peterson, 9 Dale Steyn, 10 Morne Morkel, 11 Lonwabo Tsotsobe.
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Post by eirebilly Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:05 am

Cook wins the toss and send SA in to bat Very Happy
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Post by Pal Joey Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:12 am

Good man Billy.

Morne Morkel rested for Ryan McLaren.


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Post by eirebilly Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:17 am

Yeah just saw that Very Happy
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Post by Pal Joey Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:20 am

Just got his name right too...


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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:20 am

Which shows exactly how seriously both teams are taking this series.
Again raising the question....why only 3 tests? Even a T20 series wouldve had more relevance with the world cup not so far off.

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Post by Pal Joey Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:24 am

The T20s start next weekend.

5 Tests would have been better for sure. When do England tour SA again?
Is it next year or 2014?

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Post by Shelsey93 Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:36 am

Linebreaker wrote:The T20s start next weekend.

5 Tests would have been better for sure. When do England tour SA again?
Is it next year or 2014?

I think England next tour SA in 14-15.

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Post by Duty281 Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:40 am

Tredders has just dropped Amla, hope it won't be costly.

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Post by Pal Joey Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:48 am

Cheers Shelsey.

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Post by Duty281 Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:54 am

England have just wasted their only review.

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Post by eirebilly Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:30 am

Smith and Amla have done really well here so far. Nothing flashing just solid scoring.
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Post by eirebilly Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:33 am

Fielding is again woeful Sad
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Post by Duty281 Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:42 am

Kieswetter holds on and Smith is out, 68/1.

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Post by eirebilly Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:48 am

Finally Very Happy
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Post by msp83 Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:59 am

If there is a major problem in Hashim Amla's batting, its about his calling and running. He's been a very levelheaded cricketer, but his running and calling has absolutely nothing of it whatsoever!!.

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Post by msp83 Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:01 pm

South Africa has JP Duminy in at 3 and he has looked good so far.

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Post by eirebilly Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:03 pm

Duminy is very much a handy batter. He will keep the scoreboard working.
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Post by msp83 Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:07 pm

Amla goes, Ravi Bopara it is and he's bowled him!!.

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Post by msp83 Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:09 pm

Its not Elgar its AB de Villiers the captain promoting himself. He was criticised by some that he wasn't taking enough responsibility despite being a world class ODI batsman.

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Post by msp83 Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:12 pm

Seems Albie Morkel isn't fit enough to play as yet. Good move from South Africa to bring McLaren back in, this pitch is doing a fair bit, and they need all the batting depth available.
Duminy goes, stumped of Tredwell for 18. South Africa in serious trouble now.

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Post by Duty281 Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:13 pm

2 quick wickets and suddenly it's 106/3. England on top.

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Post by msp83 Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:15 pm

Faf du Plessis is the new batsman. This pitch has a lot for the seamers, and the ball is turning for Tredwell as well!.

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Post by skyeman Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:22 pm

Good afternoon all, one more wkt and we are into Elgar and then the tail, a lot riding on these two for SA.

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Post by msp83 Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:24 pm

Another one for Bopara!. du Plessis goes bowled!.

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Post by Duty281 Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:25 pm

Bopara gets his second wicket of the match, Du Plessis is gone. 115/4.

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Post by skyeman Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:27 pm

Magic, Bops gets his second. F du Plessis b Bopara 1.

SA 115/4 and now in serious trouble.

Frig his batting, Bops for Eng for his bowling Wink

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Post by msp83 Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:27 pm

Massive responsibility here on the captain. AB had a quiet test series and he hasn't done much in the ODIs so far, he really will have to stand up if team has to have any bit of chance.

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Post by skyeman Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:36 pm

Well, they say double the score at the 30 over mark, which was 118/4. But with four down, i think SA would be glad to get to 236.

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Post by Shelsey93 Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:39 pm

Can't understand de Villiers's tactic of switching the batting order round each game which he also did in New Zealand.

Considering that Kallis would come back into the strongest XI in place of Elgar you've got to say that they would be better placed going in Smith, Amla, Elgar (Kallis), de Villiers, Duminy, du Plessis.

With what they've done today they've let two of their dangerous finishers (Duminy and du Plessis) get in and out before even the start of the powerplay, and left the slower scoring Elgar have to attack at the end of the innings rather than build a platform for the others, which is surely what he was brought into the side for.

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Post by skyeman Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:54 pm

Aye 2nd odi, bat 4th- 15 off 29. 3rd odi, bat 3rd- 42 off 88 and now 6th. Not as though he was rubbish. Maybe a tad slow though.

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Post by skyeman Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:56 pm

Still plodding along in the batting pp.

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Post by skyeman Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:01 pm

Obviously SA do not want it to go the same way as the last Odi, and are saving wkts for a huge last 5-7 overs. ABDV can be as destructive as the next.

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Post by skyeman Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:08 pm

Just 22 runs from the P/P. Good from Eng.

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Post by skyeman Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:09 pm

160/4 with 10 to go.

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Post by alfie Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:11 pm

Good day all...missed most of this , only came in to see Du Plessis go and this rather scratchy partnership....

Which might be over ...yes good work Kieswetter !

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Post by alfie Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:13 pm

So five out and even the 211 they got the other day looks a long way off yet...

On the other hand the pitch looks a bit more bowler friendly ...what is a good score do you all think ?

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Post by skyeman Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:16 pm

Good afternoon/evening Alfie. Good timing Very Happy

Another stumping and ABDV's plan just stumbled. AB de Villiers st Kieswetter b Tredwell 39.

SA 165/5.

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Post by skyeman Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:18 pm

I think they will be well short whatever they set. Should be easier batting second. They need at least 240.

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Post by Duty281 Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:20 pm

As long as we keep them below 250, very probable at the moment, we will win. Good bowling display by England so far.

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Post by skyeman Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:23 pm

Did'nt know Simon Taufel was soon to be retired. Big loss.

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Post by skyeman Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:25 pm

Tredwell getting his 3rd victim. Shame about the drops earlier.


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Post by skyeman Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:27 pm

The 3rd stumping and boy did that spin.

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Post by alfie Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:29 pm

Apparently can't catch but pretty nippy with the stumpings our keeper Smile

176/6 and six to go ...doesn't seem England will be chasing much over 200 again.

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Post by skyeman Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:29 pm

Not a big Tredwell fan, but he seems to always do the business.

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Post by skyeman Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:31 pm

Elgar seriously struggling, maybe thats why he is batting 6th.

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Post by skyeman Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:35 pm

WoW 4, then a huge switch hit SIX from Peterson off Tredwell.

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Post by alfie Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:36 pm

Some inventive batting from Peterson ! Puts pressure on Taufel , never mind Tedwell...

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Post by alfie Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:38 pm

skyeman wrote:Not a big Tredwell fan, but he seems to always do the business.

Think these two matches have shown that a fit Tredwell is better than a Swann with a damaged wing.

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Post by skyeman Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:39 pm

Who agrees with Holding on the switch hit issue?? If you are good enough to do it??

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