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Post by George Carlin Tue 06 Nov 2012, 10:00 am

I am truly bored out of my bejeezus and do not want to continue with this contract I'm drafting.

Here's a short and easy scenario:

1. It's Free Transfer Day. You can sign one of the players from another Rabo (or Jeff if you must) franchise to yours. They have to go.
2. Whom do you choose and why?
3. Please provide details of (a) your team, (b) whom you are poaching and (c) why.

As a Glasgow fan king, I would have Ruan Pienaar. A 9 like that is the last thing that we need in the absence of Cuss and his goalkicking means that we could play Jackson without soiling ourselves about him missing pots at goal and give Peter Horne a break.

As an Edinburgh fan monkey , I would gladly swap the whole team for a Curlywurley at the moment, but I would settle for Johann Muller as a priority. The diddies need a piece of granite in the tight at the moment and a leader on the pitch. Big Johann would be perfick. Hopefully Bradley will do the gentlemanly thing and throw a blank check at the big chap when his contract is up with Ulster in the summer. That should give Bradley's predecessor something nice to work with.

Surely even we cannot turn this thread into a urinating contest about the Lions, a todger comparison exercise or a thinly veiled sledging of any one particular nationality. Come on, people.


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Post by Breadvan Tue 06 Nov 2012, 10:14 am

Ospreys.

I'd get 1/2 p in from the blues at full back.

Thats our weakest position at the moment imo. Fuss is doing a decent job and there's some youngsters coming up like Ross Jones but having a solid fast player with an awesome boot would do wonders for us..
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Post by Kingshu Tue 06 Nov 2012, 10:18 am

Ulster fan, would have Pienaar and Muller back from Scotland.


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Post by Kingshu Tue 06 Nov 2012, 10:19 am

on a more serious note.

At Ulster would have to take an Irish qualified player as our NIQ slots are full.
Think our only weakness in outhalf, We have Jackson and NOC, and we don't want to rely on NOC, Pienaar works fine there with Marshall, but I'd rather have Ian Madigan.
Sexton prob should be the pick, but his face annoys me, like a gurning baby all the time, can put up with it on Internationals but would just be to often I'd have to see it if he was at Ulster.
Anyway Ian Madigan is younger and between Jackson and him we would have great depth there and I don't think either would be first choice be a real battle for 10, and can pick horses for courses.

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Post by SecretFly Tue 06 Nov 2012, 10:27 am

Leinster - Nathan Hines back.

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Post by Geordie Tue 06 Nov 2012, 10:34 am

Well for the Falcons (yes i know we're not Rabo) can i please have a top notch hooker...and i dont mean the ones on the Bigg Market street corners Wink

Who's standing out at the moment?

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Post by Kingshu Tue 06 Nov 2012, 10:50 am

At hooker, Best for me has been really good last few seasons, had a few injuries recently, but defintley well in the mix for a Lions place.

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Post by asoreleftshoulder Tue 06 Nov 2012, 10:55 am

SecretFly wrote:Leinster - Nathan Hines back.

Has to be from another Rabo team.Tough choice but yeah definitely a 2nd row we need,I'd probably go for Muller from Ulster we need a big tough enforcer type lock.

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Post by SecretFly Tue 06 Nov 2012, 10:59 am

Oh sorry, missed the Rabo connection.

Em..Cuthbert.

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Tue 06 Nov 2012, 11:12 am

Scarlets - and i guess it would have to be either Ruan or Laidlaw, as we despirately need a goal kicker, however I would not want to sacrifice anyone from 10-15 to slot one in, so a kicking scrum half is needed and those are the only two I can think of.
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Post by Bathite Tue 06 Nov 2012, 11:14 am

Bath - We'd love Jonny Sexton please!

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Post by wales606 Tue 06 Nov 2012, 11:17 am

Pienaar or Afoa for the Blues please.
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Post by toml Tue 06 Nov 2012, 11:56 am

I'd have Keith Earls back at Ulster... He was good for our 7s team

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Post by HERSH Tue 06 Nov 2012, 12:02 pm

Any No10 will do!

When is Andy Goode's contract up at Worcester?
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Post by LondonTiger Tue 06 Nov 2012, 12:04 pm

we need more than one 7 so would take Tipuric.

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Post by rodders Tue 06 Nov 2012, 12:23 pm

For Ulster....I'm actually really happy with our squad as it is.

I think extra cover at 10 and 15 would be useful.

Maybe Rob Kearney, Jonny Sexton or even Ian Madigan.

Jared Payne to 13.
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Post by stnick88 Tue 06 Nov 2012, 12:45 pm

I'd take Steffon Armitage back at Irish. Our backrow has suffered since he left.

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Post by George Carlin Tue 06 Nov 2012, 12:46 pm

rodders wrote:For Ulster....I'm actually really happy with our squad as it is.
picard You might at least have the good grace to pretend that your squad can be improved, Rodders.
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Post by SecretFly Tue 06 Nov 2012, 12:56 pm

Ulster don't need anyone else's players, of course.... but I do think Ulster could actually do with another head above Anscombes' and Humphreys'. You can never have too many bosses in the stands looking over each other's shoulders Wink

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Post by westisbest Tue 06 Nov 2012, 12:57 pm

SOB at Connacht.

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Post by rodders Tue 06 Nov 2012, 1:27 pm

OK then......I want fly to come on board to look over Humphs shoulder Smile .

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Post by funnyExiledScot Tue 06 Nov 2012, 1:38 pm

Difficult to know where to start with Edinburgh.....

I'd take Sexton and shift Laidlaw back to 9. Would give us at the very least half backs to control the game.

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Post by profitius Tue 06 Nov 2012, 1:40 pm

For Munster I'd poach SOB.
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Post by debaters1 Tue 06 Nov 2012, 1:44 pm

Hmmm......where to begin.....As a Munster fan I think we have to admit to a few weak areas but the stand out priority....

I'd nick Ross from Leinster. While I still hold out hope thatArcher can make the HEC grade (and obviously Botha is an excellent TH) I want an IQ guy at 3. Perhaps juvenile but there you go. Other positions like the back row and even 2nd row are covered in the sense that while the older guys are not as yet being pushed out by younger & better players, we have some depth.

At SH, while Duncan Williams is no fans favourite, Stringer is not the answer to any rugby question in 2012. The game has passed a faithful and 100% honest guy out. Time to exit stage left & he should have heard the curtain call last season. While his passing is still prob the best on the island, you need to be able to more than that these days at 9. Harsh, but true nonetheless.

I mean all the criticism of ROG and the Irish/Munster management re his involvement is not without merit, but at least he can teach Keatley (and JJ) somehting about the 2012 game. He tries to run at the line, he can still manage a game and his kicking while not as excellent as it once was out of hand, is still pretty good, but nothing Stringer does is somehting that the other 9's can't do themselves. Imho.

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Post by SecretFly Tue 06 Nov 2012, 1:58 pm

debaters1 wrote: but nothing Stringer does is somehting that the other 9's can't do themselves. Imho.

...actually quite a bit of what he could do in his prime, few 9s in Ireland look like they can do themselves as easily and naturally (fast thought processes in fast games, quick decisions and rapid delivery of the ball and/or control of a moving pack to gain most advantage) So, he has his limits and, yes, he is the past, but the current crop have their own limitations.... and Murray certainly has his.

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Post by Kingshu Tue 06 Nov 2012, 1:58 pm

Do you think Stringer would spend next season in Connacht?
Kieran Marmion seams to be a real find, and a year of learning from Stringer, and sharing gametime between them wouldn't harm his development?

Quite happy so many people would poach Ulster players, but we could do with Ian Madigan, that would leave no areas that I'd be worried about, (if everyone was fit).

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Post by rodders Tue 06 Nov 2012, 2:07 pm

Stringer should be hanging up his boots, not not going to Connacht and blocking another players progress. I don't think he has much to offer either Connacht or Marmion at this stage of his career.

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Post by Poorfour Tue 06 Nov 2012, 2:19 pm

debaters, wasn't it Munster that dumped Ross out of the Irish system in the first place? You have only yourselves to blame...

For Quins, I'm in the rodders camp of being happy with our lot. Probably the one thing that could immediately add to the squad would be another top notch lock or TH. So we'd happily have Mike Ross back, though he'd have to be prepared to rotate with JJ, or we'd take Richie Gray away from his grim naarthen existence.

Alternatively, give me a time machine so I can have Greenwood back at 12, or cloning technology so I can have an extra Robshaw in addition to the 2 that normally play.
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Post by Bathite Tue 06 Nov 2012, 2:40 pm

Surely there are loads of wingers you'd want for Quins? Can't think of many teams in the world that Tommy Bowe wouldn't get in.

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Post by HERSH Tue 06 Nov 2012, 3:14 pm

There is one player I'd like to drop into boiling water at the moment. furious
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Post by George Carlin Tue 06 Nov 2012, 3:19 pm

rodders wrote:Stringer should be hanging up his boots, not not going to Connacht and blocking another players progress. I don't think he has much to offer either Connacht or Marmion at this stage of his career.
Agreed - he can't have much more to offer.

He's already made the single line break in his entire international career (against Scotland, unfortunately).

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Post by Poorfour Tue 06 Nov 2012, 3:42 pm

Actually, I'd see a lock or a backup tighthead as a higher priority. But then I was a forward myself...

The back three options we have suit our gameplan and aren't exactly starving us of tries. Ugo Monye's earned a recall for England, and while Tom Williams is known to everyone other than Quins fans for something else, for the past 12 months he's been in absolutely stunning form as an all-round player. At the moment he's worth about 10 points a game for what he creates and for the tries he saves.
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Post by debaters1 Tue 06 Nov 2012, 4:15 pm

Poorfour,

It was indeed Munster's decision to cut him loose. But part of being a man is admitting you're wrong, and I'd say every single person involved with Mike Ross while he was at Munster would hold their hands up immediately and say they got that one wrong.


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Post by stnick88 Tue 06 Nov 2012, 4:38 pm

A back up tighthead? why not just get Dan Cole and have JJ as backup?!

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Post by Janecory Tue 06 Nov 2012, 5:13 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:Difficult to know where to start with Edinburgh.....

I'd take Sexton and shift Laidlaw back to 9. Would give us at the very least half backs to control the game.
Laidlaw would not do any better at 9, they dont win scrums, they dont win lineouts, and they get murdered at the breakdown.
He wont get any ball, so theres no point.

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Post by Janecory Tue 06 Nov 2012, 5:15 pm

ScarletSpiderman wrote:Scarlets - and i guess it would have to be either Ruan or Laidlaw, as we despirately need a goal kicker, however I would not want to sacrifice anyone from 10-15 to slot one in, so a kicking scrum half is needed and those are the only two I can think of.
You have got the Welsh starting 9 !
LOL !

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Post by toml Tue 06 Nov 2012, 8:56 pm

Imagine if Stinger had the pace and acceleration of Paul Marshall!

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Post by Guest Tue 06 Nov 2012, 8:56 pm

As a Dragons fan I'd have to go for the biggest, ugliest, nastiest, tighthead prop that we could get our hands on. Adam Jones, Dan Cole, those sort of characters. Someone who could really anchor our scrum. Any other suggestions?

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Post by Eustace H Plimsoll Tue 06 Nov 2012, 9:57 pm

As a Tigers fan I'd poach Ben Foden to take over from Murphy at FB.

Or perhaps Jonny May. We do need some pace in that backline. I've heard rumours of that happening at the end of the season too Smile

Or perhaps Mat Tait could just GET FIT ENOUGH TO PLAY SOME GAMES!!!! furious

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Post by yappysnap Tue 06 Nov 2012, 10:52 pm

For Quins its either some xfactor in the backs so one of May or Wade. Right now we have no one who can create something from nothing except Tom Williams

Or a big unit in the pack like Manoa or Richie Gray. Actually yes Richie Gray please! We'll save him from his Sale nightmare!

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Post by yappysnap Tue 06 Nov 2012, 10:56 pm

For Quins its either some xfactor in the backs so one of May or Wade. Right now we have no one who can create something from nothing except Tom Williams

Or a big unit in the pack like Manoa or Richie Gray. Actually yes Richie Gray please! We'll save him from his Sale nightmare!

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Post by doctor_grey Tue 06 Nov 2012, 11:44 pm

I know this started as a Rabo string, but the Premiership lads have just snuck in the back door.

So, as a Saints supporter, I need someone to play fly half.
Desperately.
Therefore, I choose to poach...........

Freddy Michalak from Toulon. He played great for Sharks, and Saints need that extra spark and dynamism.
Or,
if I need to select an English Qualified player, I also go to France and bring back the eternal hero...............

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Post by ChequeredJersey Wed 07 Nov 2012, 12:23 am

Samu Manoa, from
Saints as we need the grunt in the secod row and the carrying. I support Quins
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Post by Poorfour Wed 07 Nov 2012, 12:24 am

doctor_grey wrote:I know this started as a Rabo string, but the Premiership lads have just snuck in the back door.

So, as a Saints supporter, I need someone to play fly half.
Desperately.
Therefore, I choose to poach...........

Freddy Michalak from Toulon. He played great for Sharks, and Saints need that extra spark and dynamism.
Or,
if I need to select an English Qualified player, I also go to France and bring back the eternal hero...............

...and our fly half would still be better than yours ;-)
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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Wed 07 Nov 2012, 8:34 am

I'd be tempted to nick Nigel Owens from Leinster. Wink

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Post by LondonTiger Wed 07 Nov 2012, 8:46 am

greytiger wrote:I'd be tempted to nick Nigel Owens from Leinster. Wink

warning

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Post by Mickado Wed 07 Nov 2012, 8:51 am

Leinster definitely need a second row. If it's got to be the Pro12 then I'd take Muller (there would be something very wrong about POC in blue), if i can expand to England, I'd take Gray, outside of that I'd take one of those Whitelock lads or Andries Bekker.

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Post by Shifty Wed 07 Nov 2012, 9:18 am

My team Ospreys

I'd like George North from the Scarlets. Very Happy
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Post by mckay1402 Wed 07 Nov 2012, 9:22 am

this post blew my mind. You're an edinburgh fan and a glasgow fan. that is crazy.

for Scarlets i'd take a goal kicker so probably leigh halfpenny

for Glasgow I'd take some incisive running so Israel Dagg...
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Post by Notch Wed 07 Nov 2012, 2:41 pm

For Ulster, it would have to be a blindside to replace Stephen Ferris. Ferris could maybe have as little as one season left in his body before he has to retire.

If it had to be an Irish player, Peter O'Mahony, although realistically there is no Irishman capable of what Ferris is at his best. If it could be any nationality, Iosefa Tekori from Castres could do a good impression of him.

Apart from that, all the top class sides have two top tightheads. So Mike Ross (Irish option) or Adam Jones (NIQ) to provide cover for John Afoa from the bench.
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