I can only see Floyd's star declining in 2013
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I can only see Floyd's star declining in 2013
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Don't get me wrong, Showtime is a great boxing channel. All round better coverage of the sport and their relationship with GB has seen some excellent match ups made already. Sadly though, I just don't see Floyd doing as well there. And it isn't because of Showtime; it is because of timing. Firstly, his May 4th card lacks a lot of substance. Him and Guerrero are not going to do anywhere near the Cotto PPV numbers and without Canelo on the undercard it will be even more so the case. Also, although a far better channel (for me) than HBO when it comes to boxing, Showtime may struggle to get the same sort of exposure for this card. Say what you want about 24/7 becoming a little stale, it is established, as is their Face Off series. Then there is the fact it looks like Floyd and Canelo won't be facing off in September. This is a huge mistake for Floyd IMO. If he doesn't fight Canelo, I really won't have much interest in seeing him coast out his career against any fighter who just beat Berto.
Timing is everything and sadly I feel that although Floyd has jumped to the right ship, he doesn't have the ambition to take the fights that will make it a successful/spectacular/memorable one. I mean it will always be successful, but Floyd vs Guerrero on Showtime with no big Latino prescence on the undercard and possibly no Broner, is not exactly eye popping.
Don't get me wrong, Showtime is a great boxing channel. All round better coverage of the sport and their relationship with GB has seen some excellent match ups made already. Sadly though, I just don't see Floyd doing as well there. And it isn't because of Showtime; it is because of timing. Firstly, his May 4th card lacks a lot of substance. Him and Guerrero are not going to do anywhere near the Cotto PPV numbers and without Canelo on the undercard it will be even more so the case. Also, although a far better channel (for me) than HBO when it comes to boxing, Showtime may struggle to get the same sort of exposure for this card. Say what you want about 24/7 becoming a little stale, it is established, as is their Face Off series. Then there is the fact it looks like Floyd and Canelo won't be facing off in September. This is a huge mistake for Floyd IMO. If he doesn't fight Canelo, I really won't have much interest in seeing him coast out his career against any fighter who just beat Berto.
Timing is everything and sadly I feel that although Floyd has jumped to the right ship, he doesn't have the ambition to take the fights that will make it a successful/spectacular/memorable one. I mean it will always be successful, but Floyd vs Guerrero on Showtime with no big Latino prescence on the undercard and possibly no Broner, is not exactly eye popping.
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Re: I can only see Floyd's star declining in 2013
DAVE667 wrote:azania wrote:You have limited knowledge then.
Ask him about advertising, he reckons that writing "these are beans" on a tin in a supermarket constitutes media manipulation and controls what we buy.
Person taste, hunger and financial constraints apparently play no part in our choices
You said that you are not affected by advertising because you buy the supermarket's own brands. Supermarket's own branded food is a form of advertiing and you admitted that you buy it.
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victorgarco wrote:DAVE667 wrote:azania wrote:You have limited knowledge then.
Ask him about advertising, he reckons that writing "these are beans" on a tin in a supermarket constitutes media manipulation and controls what we buy.
Person taste, hunger and financial constraints apparently play no part in our choices
You said that you are not affected by advertising because you buy the supermarket's own brands. Supermarket's own branded food is a form of advertiing and you admitted that you buy it.
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Re: I can only see Floyd's star declining in 2013
So unless Dave forages for food he is a sop to advertising, or would that mean he was influenced by the current trend in haute cuisine for foraging local produce to create their menus led by Nomu in Denmark.
Probably the easiest option Dave would be to just stop eating.
Probably the easiest option Dave would be to just stop eating.
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Not sure if going for the cheapest option is being swayed by advertising personally Victor or you may be like me and continue to buy the exact same food and brands that I was bought as a child.
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Re: I can only see Floyd's star declining in 2013
Rowley wrote:So unless Dave forages for food he is a sop to advertising, or would that mean he was influenced by the current trend in haute cuisine for foraging local produce to create their menus led by Nomu in Denmark.
Probably the easiest option Dave would be to just stop eating.
That would be advertising in the form of TV shows like Ray Mears or Bear Grylls.
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Re: I can only see Floyd's star declining in 2013
Imperial Ghosty wrote:Not sure if going for the cheapest option is being swayed by advertising personally Victor or you may be like me and continue to buy the exact same food and brands that I was bought as a child.
Your parents were sops for advertising and therefore by voctor's reconing, the sins of the father and all that applies. So he is correct.
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Re: I can only see Floyd's star declining in 2013
We are talking to a guy who thinks North Korea is a democracy because it calls itself a democracy.
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I find a fairly decent rule of thumb az is that any country which contains the word democracy in its name is anything of the sort.
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Rowley wrote:I find a fairly decent rule of thumb az is that any country which contains the word democracy in its name is anything of the sort.
That rule of thumb is lost on one of our esteemed posters here.
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Re: I can only see Floyd's star declining in 2013
azania wrote:Rowley wrote:I find a fairly decent rule of thumb az is that any country which contains the word democracy in its name is anything of the sort.
That rule of thumb is lost on one of our esteemed posters here.
Its probably been wiped off by his saliva as he's still sucking on it.
Re: I can only see Floyd's star declining in 2013
Well we have another one who said we should nuke a nuclear armed country in order to stop a nuclear war. I kid you not.
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Re: I can only see Floyd's star declining in 2013
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:Diamond in the rough wrote:Showtime is subscription but is it not part of CBS or something which is free tv in the states! So if he goes on a couple of the free shows it will maybe boost up his numbers
Haha, wishful thinking unfortunately as Floyd knows that he can hold a PPV card which will guarantee him more money then a cable channel
Having Mayweather boxing on CBS on free TV would be the kick that boxing needs and given that the (relatively) little known Leo Santa Cruz drew 1.5 million viewers agaisnt the unknown Guevara, you can only imagine how many more people would watch floyd for free when he already gets 1.5million people watching his fights for $70. However, you just can't see it at floyd's stage if his career when he's looking for the big $$$
That being said there was an interview with Richard Shafaer that they will try to get him on CBS
Yeah he won't be fighting for free but he will be on some of the CBS shows trying to get more people to get showtime, as CBS goes out to more than 100 million viewers there's a good chance he could pull in a big number
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