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Post by nathan Sun 10 Mar 2013, 11:04 am

So what are peoples predictions? It's snowing in Leicester, so I presume similar weather at Twickenham?

I have a bad feeling about this game and don't think England will run away with it as many are predicting.

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Post by EnglishReign Sun 10 Mar 2013, 11:51 am

Why does the worst weather wait for 6 nations weekend? Worried I'll never see the sun again.

Anyway, BBC weather reckons no snow in Twickenham but still cold and windy. I still reckon we will get a big win today.

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Post by Guest Sun 10 Mar 2013, 12:09 pm

Big win for England I reckon. 45 - 15 is my prediction.

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Post by 100%beefy Sun 10 Mar 2013, 12:10 pm

Look Italy just beat France but they are completely unreliable on form and meander from superb on occassion to dire. England are composed, intelligent and have massive strenght in depth. I fully expect Italy to have thier moments but England just beat NZ and they will put Italy away convincingly. I think perhaps lancs made more changes than he shoudl have but he has been faultless so far so I am sure he knows what he wants. The issue is will England get enough of a test today to prep them for Cardiff which will be a more stern test with everything to lose. Unitl now England seem to thrive under pressure, next weekend they will need to.

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Post by RDSguru Sun 10 Mar 2013, 12:16 pm

I have England to win by 18.

Out of interest, given that the current points difference between Eng and Wales is just 7, how much do you think Eng need to win by to guarantee the championship?

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Post by Barney McGrew did it Sun 10 Mar 2013, 12:17 pm

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Post by RDSguru Sun 10 Mar 2013, 12:23 pm

Can't fault your confidence Barney Very Happy

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Post by Hood83 Sun 10 Mar 2013, 12:25 pm

Can't understand all these predictions. I think they're based on Wales beating them easily away, but that was without Parisse, who does make a huge difference.

If he and Orquera (sp?) play well, it's a big if on the latter obviously, then we won't be winning by 20 or more. It really isn't a bad Italian side, they'll be hugely motivated and their set piece and defence will be good.

I'm a natural pessimist, but given I haven't seen England exactly blow anyone away, especially not through the backs, I see this as being a little closer. Maybe 15 in it max.

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Post by RDSguru Sun 10 Mar 2013, 12:49 pm

Hood83 wrote:Can't understand all these predictions. I think they're based on Wales beating them easily away, but that was without Parisse, who does make a huge difference.

I suspect the scoreline between Scotland and Italy may be influencing the scoreline predictions as well.

I'd like to see a smallish win for Eng, 3-7 points. That would give the Cardiff game a really nice edge to it, Wales to win by 10-15 snatching the championship and slam from Eng.... (thats not a prediction by the way, just within the realms of possibility)

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Post by aitchw Sun 10 Mar 2013, 12:54 pm

Italy are past masters of forcing opposition to play the game on their terms. England have to treat Italy the same way they treated the ABs and will have to do the same next week against Wales. Play with pace and aggression. Speed everywhere on the pitch. Italy will struggle to maintain defence if they do that. Not taking anything for granted. Italy can spoil anyone's party when Parisse plays well.

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Post by Alex_Germany Sun 10 Mar 2013, 2:23 pm

Barney McGrew did it wrote:3-0

7-6 would do the job.

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Post by Morgannwg Sun 10 Mar 2013, 2:29 pm

The predictions are in. England to win by 10 points, then Wales to beat England next week by 18 points and take the title. Easy.
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Post by Looseheaded Sun 10 Mar 2013, 2:45 pm

Loving this Italian bloke's description of rugby. Would prefer if Sonia avoided discussing soccer though, I just dont give a poop about it.

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Post by lostinwales Sun 10 Mar 2013, 2:54 pm

If it was in Rome the game would be a lot tougher. I honestly think its going to be very very hard for Italy to score any points at all. However, particularly if the weather takes a hold, I can also see England having trouble scoring.

So - a comfortable victory but potentially a low scoring game

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sun 10 Mar 2013, 2:55 pm

Wales need to pass to the wings as often as possible next week and hope Ashton has a bad day on the tackling.

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Post by RuggerBoy Sun 10 Mar 2013, 2:58 pm

A game where I don't really care who wins.

So my prediction is that it will be a fast flowing game, from end to end with loads of tries and virtually no kicking and all. A game where all the scrums are correctly set with perfect timing and impeccable binding, officiated by a referee who might just as well be a spectator for all the influence he has on the game.

One final thing, there will only be 3-5 points between the teams at the end so that next week's game in Cardiff will be a REAL match for the championship.

Now that is a game where I DO care who wins. In the meantime, let today's game begin! Very Happy

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Post by Hood83 Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:01 pm

Urgh, our anthem is terrible, made worse by that stupid false upward intonation at the end you always get with singers. Bin it.

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:05 pm

Hood83 wrote:Urgh, our anthem is terrible, made worse by that stupid false upward intonation at the end you always get with singers. Bin it.

The woman singing it was pretty hot. Wouldn't mind a sex sandwich with her, Kath Jenkins and Hayley Westenra.

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Post by glamorganalun Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:13 pm

How many forwrd passes so far?

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:15 pm

Italy have turned England over several times.

Wales will take note.

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Post by Geordie Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:15 pm

Ashton is getting through some serious work...

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Post by glamorganalun Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:16 pm

Penalty, penalty , well done flood missed touch again.

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Post by Morgannwg Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:18 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Ashton is getting through some serious work...

Yeah he's as fast going backwards as forwards.
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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:22 pm

We need to challenge Goode with the high ball next week.

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Post by glamorganalun Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:23 pm

The FB catches the ball under no pressure he is now the Lions FB.

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Post by Guest Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:23 pm

What a run by Zanni

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:23 pm

DAMN.

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Post by Geordie Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:23 pm

We're having a few little concentration lapses....Italy should have scored there...

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Post by Breadvan Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:24 pm

Big let off...
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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:24 pm

Parisse handles the ball like Henson.

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Post by Morgannwg Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:24 pm

I thought that came off a heel of an England player. Well spotted Nige.
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Post by Geordie Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:25 pm

But Parisse will be remembered as one of the best of his generaion...Henson will be remembered as an utter tool....

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Post by bsando Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:26 pm

Touch judge saw what happened yet ref still deems it an England scrum? Lucky England.

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Post by Guest Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:27 pm

Oh dear Flood...

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:27 pm

OMG

Eddie Butler is a moron
England squander a 72 man overlap

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Post by Geordie Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:27 pm

Flood is showing why he will soon be behind both Farrell and Burns in the pecking order....

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Post by glamorganalun Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:27 pm

Well done Flood screwed up.

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Post by Looseheaded Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:28 pm

How did England not score there?
Shocking composure

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Post by Breadvan Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:28 pm

Shoulda but didna. Have to be more clinical.
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Post by wales606 Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:28 pm

Worst butchered try I can remember seeing
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Post by Morgannwg Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:28 pm

Laugh
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Post by thebluesmancometh Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:28 pm

Flood held up on a 4 man overlap...

England lucky to not have conceded Parisse and co called knocked on despite Clancy being told it clearly wasn't...

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Post by EnglishReign Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:28 pm

Flood having a mare

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Post by Breadvan Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:29 pm

Floods trying to hard IMO. Composure lad....
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Post by wales606 Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:29 pm

Wow, awful
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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:29 pm

Wales looking good for Cardiff.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:30 pm

Noway does Flood take any blame for being held up there mind!!

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Post by bsando Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:30 pm

Scrums turning into Scotland Wales games. Ref just said "I was clear with you before the game, I want a long pause between pause and set" WHY!?!

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Post by Casartelli Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:31 pm

Blimey, if they play like this in Cardiff we'll have it won by halftime.

Hope it's not a case of bad rehearsal, great performance etc.

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Post by LondonTiger Sun 10 Mar 2013, 3:31 pm

Goode coming in to the attacking line messed up that chance. He came in far to close to flood and then shovelled it sideways. If Goode satys out, flood has the choice of running or passing

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