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British Heavyweight Boxing is becoming a laughingstock again!!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 22 Apr 2013, 2:15 pm

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I remember growing up..The Brits were always regarded as horizontal Henrys but they generally had dignity in defeat and gave it there all!!...........However Bruno in fairness looked the part....Tried his best and handled himself in the main with dignity a real trier!!!...Fairplay!!.....

Lewis was a Heavy we all took notice of one of the best of all time and kind of gave British heavy boxing something to feel good about and rightly so.........We can argue about his British-ness some other time...

Alas the last year or so has been awful for British heavyweight boxing and it's rightly becoming a laughingstock...

1. Haye gets his toe out at a Press conference...............after running like a thief..
2. Haye and Chisora two losers!! fighting at a press conference like two ex-girlfriends over a boy that is out of their league......
3. Price is knocked out with a slap on the neck.
4. Now this lughead sneaks past a cruiser and jumps about and starts singing like he's beaten Ali.............

I'll be honest I've never felt more proud to be American.....


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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue 23 Apr 2013, 9:51 pm

Ah here we go.....
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Post by azania Tue 23 Apr 2013, 9:58 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Ah here we go.....

Go then.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue 23 Apr 2013, 9:59 pm

"we" me and you
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Post by milkyboy Tue 23 Apr 2013, 9:59 pm

I kind of take having guts as a given for a professional boxer,


Not seen much of audley then horizontal? It takes guts to get in the ring... But a different kind of heart to come back from knockdowns/adversity. Fury is lacking in many things, but he has heart.

I've said it a few times but I find his rants tongue in cheek and mildly amusing. He did look terrible on Saturday, but better fighters than him have been given trouble early on by decent mobile cruisers, which is what Cunningham was. That said, few have looked as clumsy and awkward as fury did. Hey ho, its onwards and sideways for tyson.

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Post by sittingringside Tue 23 Apr 2013, 10:18 pm

At the end of the day, Fury said what he was going to do, he was going to be the big man until he had Cunningham in his sights, at which point he predicted his heavyweight power would decide the contest. Whilst it was a pretty clumsy performance, I guess he was basically right in his prediction! This fight pretty much confirmed Tyson fury's attributes to me. Defensively sloppy and occasionally clumsy, but has good natural shot selection, timing and combination throwing ability for a man of his stature.

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Post by Strongback Tue 23 Apr 2013, 11:20 pm

I always saw Fury's trash talk as being tongue in cheek with a sort of urine take vibe to it.

In New York though I saw a difference, maybe the whole Madison SG event went to his head but he is starting to really look like he is not of right mind. The country and western singing etc was bizarre. He has a history of emotional difficulties and I am wondering if has been having a bit of a manic episode recently.


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Post by Steffan Wed 24 Apr 2013, 12:51 pm

Fury is good entertainment I dont know why he gets so much grief for on here

Looks like he is due to get sparked mind but then thats all part of the excitement

Rubbish singer mind

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Post by bhb001 Wed 24 Apr 2013, 12:53 pm

Steffan wrote:Fury is good entertainment I dont know why he gets so much grief for on here

Looks like he is due to get sparked mind but then thats all part of the excitement

Rubbish singer mind

Is that because he has Irish heritage instead of Welsh?

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Post by Steffan Wed 24 Apr 2013, 12:54 pm

bhb001 wrote:
Steffan wrote:Fury is good entertainment I dont know why he gets so much grief for on here

Looks like he is due to get sparked mind but then thats all part of the excitement

Rubbish singer mind

Is that because he has Irish heritage instead of Welsh?
Nah im Welsh and I can ruin a karaoke song better than anyone

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 24 Apr 2013, 1:01 pm

What, are you Welsh??

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Post by Steffan Wed 24 Apr 2013, 1:04 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:What, are you Welsh??
Yeah its what you do if you lose a bet Wink

Are you American by any chance? Im sure iv heard you mention it in an article or 20

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Post by Seanusarrilius Wed 24 Apr 2013, 1:14 pm

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Post by Diggers Wed 24 Apr 2013, 2:48 pm

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horizontalhero wrote:Fully agree Truss. I have been in and around boxing for the best part of 25 years, but little by little I have fallen out of love with the sport, but Like a Junkie for whom the fun has long since departed leaving only miserable addiction, I still keep coming back for more, but if I ever do manage to wash my hands is boxing, then Fury v Cunningham will surely be a key milestone in that journey. Entertaining? It was an embarassement . From his stupid pre fight hand shake, to his histrionics between rounds, his pathetic level of skill , the mismatch of size that allowed for him to win despite this patheitc showing, to his singing afterwards, it was cringeworthy from start to finish. if someone that had never heard of boxing asked me what I watched for entertainment, and I had to show them a recording of this event, I'd be hanging my head in shame. It would be less embarrassing to admit to being a fan of the x factor , or one direction or any of that other banal crap that passes for popular entertainment these days.
I have never ever before tuned into to watch a fighter solely in the hope of seeing them lose- I may have detested Naz.s personality, stupid shorts and even stupider ring entrances, but I marveled at his skill and chutzpah, but Fury has absolutely no redeeming features, if there is a god of boxing I pray he sees fit to answer my prays, and let's him get knocked out and back into obscurity as soon as possible.
To think that this muppet could one day hold the title held by men as dignified as Louis or Paterson, or as charismatic as Ali, or technically skilled as Holmes or Lewis is depressing beyond belief. Compare him to any of the previous Brits to have held any version of the heavy weight crown , even the likes of Hide or Akinwande, and he looks like a fat, charmless pub brawler. Please, please let him fight a Klitchkos , a Haye or any other half decent heavyweight as soon as possible. Rant over, and him starting to feel better already.

I can understand why people would hate the guy but for any fan of boxing to say he has no redeeming features is beyond me.
If nothing else he has the guts to get in the ring, get knocked down and get up and go on to win a fight. He certainly has the stomach for a tear up which a lot of boxers over the years havent had, when the going gets tough Fury at least steps up to the plate.
You might think he's talentless..which I personally dont agree with but again thats fair enough......but I dont see how anyone can say he doesnt have a boxers heart and for that alone he deserves some credit.

I'll concede that he has heart, but that I kind of take having guts as a given for a professional boxer, I was more inferring that he has nothing that makes him pleasurable to watch or likeable as a personality. I'm just fed up with boxers showing such little class, and not backing their boasts up. Fury was carrying on as if this performance was something to be proud of, when really it was urine poor.


It certainly wasn't a great performance, but I wouldn't call a urine poor performance one that a fighter wins. You say that all fighters have heart as a given, well I didn't see much heart from Akinwande when he fought to be honest, Id rather watch Fury fight than Akinwande any day of the week.
He won't fight many guys who are as slick and have as fast hands as Cunningham, I think that was a bit of a reality check for him. But he ground him down and won the fight. Like he has managed to find a way to do in his whole career thus far.
He is mad as a box of frogs but I find that quite entertaining personally.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Wed 24 Apr 2013, 2:50 pm

Diggers wrote:
horizontalhero wrote:
Diggers wrote:
horizontalhero wrote:Fully agree Truss. I have been in and around boxing for the best part of 25 years, but little by little I have fallen out of love with the sport, but Like a Junkie for whom the fun has long since departed leaving only miserable addiction, I still keep coming back for more, but if I ever do manage to wash my hands is boxing, then Fury v Cunningham will surely be a key milestone in that journey. Entertaining? It was an embarassement . From his stupid pre fight hand shake, to his histrionics between rounds, his pathetic level of skill , the mismatch of size that allowed for him to win despite this patheitc showing, to his singing afterwards, it was cringeworthy from start to finish. if someone that had never heard of boxing asked me what I watched for entertainment, and I had to show them a recording of this event, I'd be hanging my head in shame. It would be less embarrassing to admit to being a fan of the x factor , or one direction or any of that other banal crap that passes for popular entertainment these days.
I have never ever before tuned into to watch a fighter solely in the hope of seeing them lose- I may have detested Naz.s personality, stupid shorts and even stupider ring entrances, but I marveled at his skill and chutzpah, but Fury has absolutely no redeeming features, if there is a god of boxing I pray he sees fit to answer my prays, and let's him get knocked out and back into obscurity as soon as possible.
To think that this muppet could one day hold the title held by men as dignified as Louis or Paterson, or as charismatic as Ali, or technically skilled as Holmes or Lewis is depressing beyond belief. Compare him to any of the previous Brits to have held any version of the heavy weight crown , even the likes of Hide or Akinwande, and he looks like a fat, charmless pub brawler. Please, please let him fight a Klitchkos , a Haye or any other half decent heavyweight as soon as possible. Rant over, and him starting to feel better already.

I can understand why people would hate the guy but for any fan of boxing to say he has no redeeming features is beyond me.
If nothing else he has the guts to get in the ring, get knocked down and get up and go on to win a fight. He certainly has the stomach for a tear up which a lot of boxers over the years havent had, when the going gets tough Fury at least steps up to the plate.
You might think he's talentless..which I personally dont agree with but again thats fair enough......but I dont see how anyone can say he doesnt have a boxers heart and for that alone he deserves some credit.

I'll concede that he has heart, but that I kind of take having guts as a given for a professional boxer, I was more inferring that he has nothing that makes him pleasurable to watch or likeable as a personality. I'm just fed up with boxers showing such little class, and not backing their boasts up. Fury was carrying on as if this performance was something to be proud of, when really it was urine poor.


It certainly wasn't a great performance, but I wouldn't call a urine poor performance one that a fighter wins. You say that all fighters have heart as a given, well I didn't see much heart from Akinwande when he fought to be honest, Id rather watch Fury fight than Akinwande any day of the week.
He won't fight many guys who are as slick and have as fast hands as Cunningham, I think that was a bit of a reality check for him. But he ground him down and won the fight. Like he has managed to find a way to do in his whole career thus far.
He is mad as a box of frogs but I find that quite entertaining personally.

I have watched the fight and can I just say that Fury was poor. David Haye would destroy him.

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Post by Diggers Wed 24 Apr 2013, 3:58 pm

Haye probably would beat him, it would be a nightmare match up for Fury so he probably wont take it. Lets face it Haye would probably roll most of the division apart from K2 and he probably has a shot there if he goes for it.
I think Fury has another 12 months and 3 fights before he should go for a title shot, then we will see if he can carry on improving and learning.
Lets face it, its taken Brook the best part of 10 years to not fight for a world title and even then he wouldn't have been fighting the best welter around, far from it.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 24 Apr 2013, 8:14 pm

Be like Haye-Maccarinelli again..

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Post by Steffan Wed 24 Apr 2013, 8:19 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Be like Haye-Maccarinelli again..
One of the worst losses of my (watching) boxing career. Looking back now Enzo never stood a chance. But we believed...we believed Sad

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