New Edinburgh and Glasgow Teams Thread - 2013/2014

[George Carlin]

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We exhausted the other thread, so here we go with a new one for all of your pre-season banter needs.
 
1. Edinburgh   
 
Chairman: Jim Calder
CEO: Craig Docherty
Coach: Alan Solomons  
Captain: Greig Laidlaw
 
(a) Squad:
 
Props
Geoff Cross, WP Nel, Lewis Niven, Alasdair Dickinson
 
Hookers
Ross Ford, Steven Lawrie, Aleki Lutui, Alun Walker,
 
Locks
Sean Cox, Grant Gilchrist, Perry Parker, Izak van der Westhuizen, Robert McAlpine,
 
Loose Forwards
Dimitri Basilaia, David Denton, Roddy Grant, Stuart McInally, Ross Rennie, Hamish Watson,
 
Half Backs
Alex Black, Greig Laidlaw, Chris Leck, Harry Leonard, Piers Francis,
 
Centres
Ben Atiga, Ben Cairns, Nick De Luca, John Houston, Matt Scott,
 
Back Three
Tom Brown, Lee Jones, Greig Tonks, Tim Visser, Nikki Walker, Dougie Fife, Jack Cuthbert
 
(b) Transfers 2013/2014:
 
Players In
 
Nikki Walker from Worcester Warriors
Jack Cuthbert from Bath Rugby
Aleki Lutui from Worcester Warriors
Alasdair Dickinson from Sale Sharks
 
Players Out
 
Richie Rees to Newport Gwent Dragons
Netani Talei to Newport Gwent Dragons
Sep Visser released
Mike Penn to Moseley
Andy Titterrell to London Welsh
John Yapp to London Irish
Allan Jacobsen retired
James King retired
Steven Turnbull retired
 
(c) Elite Development Players 2013/2014:
 
Alex Allan (Edinburgh Accies)
Chris Auld (Gala)*
Magnus Bradbury (Boroughmuir)*
Phil Cringle (Heriot’s)
Bruce Dick (Melrose)*
Jamie Farndale (Edinburgh Accies)
Sam Hidalgo-Clyne (Heriot’s)
Neil Irvine Hess (Watsonians)*
Ewan McQuillin (Gala)*
George Turner (Heriot’s)
Hamish Watson (Edinburgh Accies)
 
* = new EDP player 
 
2. Glasgow  
 
Chairman: Charles Shaw
CEO: Nathan Bomrys
Coach: Gregor Townsend
Captain: Alastair Kellock
 
(a) Squad:
 
Fraser Brown, Hooker
Finlay Gillies, Hooker
Dougie Hall, Hooker
Pat MacArthur, Hooker
Michael Cusack, Prop
Ryan Grant, Prop
Ed Kalman, Prop
Moray Low, Prop
Gordon Reid, Prop
Jon Welsh, Prop
Jerry Yanuyanutawa, Prop
 
Jonny Gray, Lock
Alastair Kellock, Lock
Tom Ryder, Lock
Tim Swinson, Lock
Leone Nakarawa, Lock
 
James Eddie, Flanker
Chris Fusaro, Flanker
Rob Harley, Flanker
Tyrone Holmes, Flanker
 
Ryan Wilson, Number 8
Richie Vernon, Number 8
Josh Strauss, Number 8
 
Chris Cusiter, Scrum-half
Nikola Matawalu, Scrum-half
Henry Pyrgos, Scrum-half
 
Ruaridh Jackson, Fly-half
Duncan Weir, Fly-half
Scott Wight, Fly-half
 
Gabriel Ascarate, Centre
Mark Bennett, Centre
Alex Dunbar, Centre
Peter Horne, Centre
Byron McGuigan, Centre
 
Sean Lamont, Wing
Sean Maitland, Wing
Tommy Seymour, Wing
D.T.H. van der Merwe, Wing
 
Stuart Hogg, Fullback
Peter Murchie, Fullback
 
(b) Player Transfers 2013/2014:
 
Players In
 
Richie Vernon from Sale Sharks
Tyrone Holmes from Petrarca Rugby
Jerry Yanuyanutawa from London Irish
Gabriel Ascarate from US Carcassonne
Leone Nakarawa from Fiji Barbarians
 
Players Out
 
John Barclay to Scarlets
Nick Campbell to Jersey
Ofa Fainga'anuku to Worcester Warriors
Taylor Paris to Agen
Graeme Morrison retired
Rory Lamont retired
 
(c) Elite Development Players 2013/2014:
 
Gavin Lowe (Ayr)
Rory Hughes (Stirling County)
Jack Steele (Dundee)
Finn Russell (Ayr)
Ali Price (Bedford Blues)
Adam Ashe (Stirling County)
Will Bordill (Sale Sharks)
Andrew Redmayne (Dundee)
Fergus Scott (Currie)
George Hunter (Ayr)
Darcy Rae (Ayr)

[21st Century Schizoid Man]

I'm at rugby training so can't glove!

No worries, the tweeps at Edinburgh have just tweeted a photo of it
http://twitter.com/EdinburghRugby/status/368068641540956160/photo/1

It must have taken a lot of cut-up binliners to fit Ross Ford.

Isn't it a bit 70's porn star at-the-weekend? Add a handlebar moustache and it's In The Navy time.

Those 3 have all the threat of a hospital visitor ffs !!

Where is the wee sponsors bit on the Embra jersey from 'Brothel Town UK" ?

[tigertattie]

is RDW still with us?

[RDW]

In mind if not body!

[tigertattie]

Gas and air???

[RDW]

As it turns out, I only ended up playing 1 game because the team that the 2s were meant to be playing after the 1st game called off an hour before kick off! I’m not going to name and shame them, but let’s say they are from an overspill from Glasgow, just outside of Edinburgh on the M8, that begins with L…

However the game for the 1s was sufficiently painful enough after 11 months out of rugby action!

[AsLongAsBut100ofUs]

As it turns out, I only ended up playing 1 game because the team that the 2s were meant to be playing after the 1st game called off an hour before kick off! I’m not going to name and shame them, but let’s say they are from an overspill from Glasgow, just outside of Edinburgh on the M8, that begins with L…

However the game for the 1s was sufficiently painful enough after 11 months out of rugby action!

Classic  

[tigertattie]

Luffburgh?

[Pat_Mustard]

http://t.co/IhUmnJuBvI http://t.co/iUCEzSXj53

Not so sure about these ones but have a feeling they might grow on me

[IanBru]

New Glasgow kit revealed:

http://twitter.com/GlasgowWarriors/status/369422740488327168/photo/1
http://twitter.com/GlasgowWarriors/status/369421308171284480/photo/1
http://twitter.com/GlasgowWarriors/status/369420239491981312/photo/1

Can I be the first to say that I'm a fan? Pretty happy with this, considering the MFL hoops monstrosity!

[AsLongAsBut100ofUs]

New Glasgow kit revealed:

http://twitter.com/GlasgowWarriors/status/369422740488327168/photo/1
http://twitter.com/GlasgowWarriors/status/369421308171284480/photo/1
http://twitter.com/GlasgowWarriors/status/369420239491981312/photo/1

Can I be the first to say that I'm a fan? Pretty happy with this, considering the MFL hoops monstrosity!  

Sorry to be a dissenter, but ugly  

[RDW]

I like the white one - not so much the other one!

[Pat_Mustard]

I actually quite like the Edinburgh hoops, better than any of their previous macron kits IMO. This new Glasgow one I'm not so sure about but better than the paint splatter one from a couple of years ago and like I say I think it will grow on me. I do like the way the BT Sport logo has been badly photoshopped onto Al Kellock's chest.

[George Carlin]

Like what they've tried to do with the Rennie Mac lattice but any attempt at sophistication is given a swift kick in the crackers by that heinous duck egg blue, the only colour that doesn't exist in nature and genuinely suits nobody. It's'a little bit weird and quite disappointing.

Edinburgh's'strip is much better - it at least looks modern.

Gutted from Ayrshire.

[Pat_Mustard]

Duck eggs don't exist in nature?  

[George Carlin]

Yes, they do but that minging colour doesn't.
The colour of Disappointment.

[RDW]

Is that the light blue / turquoise colour? (where's Gok Wan when you need him)

The home strip is fine apart from that part

[George Carlin]

Also, they had better get some official photographs of the kit up quickly because that snap of Big Al and the Meatball looks a bit like a father and son out on school sportsday.

[Pat_Mustard]

It looks better on the away kit, a bit like an Argentina colour scheme which I quite like. The home colours are more like this old ospreys one http://www.oldrugbyshirts.com/en/teams/o/ospreys/old-ospreys-rugby-shirt-s3102.html

I think the colours would look better if it wasn't just a big rectangle over the shoulders

[Dorothy_Mantooth]

I would just like to say that the new Glasgow strips are the best strips I have EVER seen & the new Edinburgh ones are the worst EVER.

Its time we brought some Old Firm Hyperbole to these boards  

[RDW]

 

Fine then – Jack Cuthbert makes Sean Maitland look like a sloth in comparison!

I’d pick Ben Atiga over Alex Dunbar any day of the week!

Or, in old firm speak:

That Cuthbert f***y is pure rapid – makes Maitland look like a big slow hing

Dunbar is pish – Ben Atiga is the dogs baws!

[Dorothy_Mantooth]

 

Fine then – Jack Cuthbert makes Sean Maitland look like a sloth in comparison!

I’d pick Ben Atiga over Alex Dunbar any day of the week!

Or, in old firm speak:

That Cuthbert f***y is pure rapid – makes Maitland look like a big slow hing

Dunbar is pish – Ben Atiga is the dogs baws!

We are laughing, but it manages to fill 4 pages in all the papers, seven days a week.

Seriously though, quite like the Glasgow away top, not that fond of the home top.

[RDW]

BBC Scotland ‘sport’ is the worst – I have regular Twitter rants at them when they spend 10 minutes talking about Sunday league ladies football when there’s been a big Edinburgh or Glasgow game on.

They have no shame!

[Dorothy_Mantooth]

Did anyone else go to the Warriors Open day yesterday at Scotstoun and if so what were their thoughts?

I went along with the kids and we all had a very good day, even despite the odd “shower”. Very well organised day, where the full squad went through a training session then stayed for ages after, signing loads of autographs.

Club also laid on Face painting and Rugby challenges for the kids as well as stumping up for Burgers and Hot Dogs etc It was too windy for the bouncy castle etc for the younger kids which was a shame but unavoidable.

Really good idea overall as it was their first pre-season thing that involves the whole family. There were loads of kids there, so hopefully a few more people getting made more aware of the Warriors brand.

Well done to the club!

[Dorothy_Mantooth]

BBC Scotland ‘sport’ is the worst – I have regular Twitter rants at them when they spend 10 minutes talking about Sunday league ladies football when there’s been a big Edinburgh or Glasgow game on.

They have no shame!

Worst in the BBC are now employing someone to provide live text updates on Football club games around Europe.

[GLove39]

Speaking of employing people, Edinburgh will no longer have Graham Easton as their stadium announcer. Instead its some guy called DJ Boogie..? Worst DJ name ever?  

[RDW]

Boogie as in the Forth One presenter? To be fair he’s pretty big in Edinburgh – the equivalent of Des and Jenny on Capital. And his last name is Boogle or something like that!

[Dorothy_Mantooth]

Wonder how much these guys get? Whatever it is its a waste of money.

[tigertattie]

He is called Boogie as his surname is Bouglas! He is originally from Hawick and to be fair he has a decent understanding of the game! (enough to be a stadium announcer)

He is also a bloomin funny guy!

Also, did you know he was Hawick BMX champion?

[RDW]

Wonder how much these guys get?  Whatever it is its a waste of money.

Easton made a career out of it so it must be manageable.  As has been said – Boogie is good and pretty funny!  I’m surprised they got him though – his breakfast show goes out over the entire network (Edinburgh, Fife, Tayside, Clyde) so he is well known in Scottish radio.  Probably earning more than Easton for doing it (who was pretty good himself!)

Hearing the Glasgow announcer through TV he’s never inspired me overly much…

[tigertattie]

Oh, and I forgot to say!

I like the new weedge away top, but the home one is (as they say in the weedge) Boggin!

Whats with the huge dark section from the chest down? Glasgow trying to change their team colours?

[123456789]

I've been away with no internet access for the last week and so missed out on a lot.
I really hope MacInally's change was made at the start of pre-season rather than this week so he at least had some time to alter his body shape and work on the skills, Tom Youngs said that as a centre his chest wasn't flexible enough to throw into the lineout and he had to work on it, I expect centres and back-rows have similar gym requirements and MacInally would have the same problem. If it works out then it's a great decision but he could still make it as a back-rower whereas Tom Youngs had no choice if he wanted to stay pro.

I like both the kits but I hope the Edinburgh photos have been altered and they aren't as shiny as in the pictures because otherwise they'll look effeminate as well as play like it.

[Dorothy_Mantooth]

Looks like there is another Glasgow signing to be announced in the next couple of days. Club twitter feed hinting at news, Townsend already spilt the beans that its a new signing.

[George Carlin]

Looks like there is another Glasgow signing to be announced in the next couple of days.  Club twitter feed hinting at news, Townsend already spilt the beans that its a new signing.

Hopefully it's Gok Wan on a 4 year deal.

[EST]

I wasn't expecting another signing...possible outside the budget, Sean Maitlandesque purchase?

[Dorothy_Mantooth]

I wasn't expecting another signing...possible outside the budget, Sean Maitlandesque purchase?

Hopefully!

Squad looks decent in all departments and there is no gaping holes, unless there is an issue with a players long(ish) term fitness that has not been made public.

If there are no hidden injury worries, then unless we are signing a quality player who is going to start, I don't really see the point in adding another squad player. Surely we have to leave some space for an EDP player to get the odd chance.

Would love it to be a quality Ten, but can't see that happening because we already have players and if a decent 10 becomes available, I would assume he would be Edinburgh bound.

On another note, George Hunter our EDP prop has gone to London Scottish on an 1 year loan deal. Which I think is a good idea.

[Weegie Wizard]

Looking forward to hearing all about the new signing. Hope it's a back row to annoy those from the Far East.

Whisper it, but I actually prefer the new Edinburgh top to ours. That said it might be all in the presentation. Maybe after swing them model, we have found something the Edinburgh players are better at.

[RDW]

I can understand why you weege want a stand off, you only have 2 capped Internationalists after all….

[AsLongAsBut100ofUs]

I honestly wouldn't want a stand-off at Glasgow right now - I remain confident that Meatball will develop into the full deal, slightly less so that Rhubarb will (but he still might), am hopeful that Peter Horne could become a great 10 (even more uncertain), and am happy enough that in Scott Wight and the likes of Finn Russell, we have adequate cover and potential

[tigertattie]

The meatball still has potential!

Rhubard, not so!

Glasgow could do with playing meatball and sticking with him!

As for horne, I'd leave him at centre! He looks far more confortable there! When he played 10 for Scotland, he was like a frightened rabbit in the headlights!

[Dorothy_Mantooth]

I can understand why you weege want a stand off, you only have 2 capped Internationalists after all….

If Glasgow want to go to the next level then we need better and more consistent play from the Stand off position. Obviously they are going to stick with what we have got and I fully understand why. But what I was saying is that if were offered a player of say Maitlands ability (Lions standard) and there was no consideration for Scotland, then Stand Off would be the position I would pick to strengthen.

We do have two capped internationals at 10, but to be fair we have two capped internationals at every position.

[Dorothy_Mantooth]

Looking forward to hearing all about the new signing. Hope it's a back row to annoy those from the Far East.

Might be an Eight with Strauss making a more permanent move to six.

[RDW]

Looking forward to hearing all about the new signing. Hope it's a back row to annoy those from the Far East.

Might be an Eight with Strauss making a more permanent move to six.

Again, Edinburgh only have 1 player who is a regular 6, and 1 who is a regular 8 – we’ve definitely got dibs!

[Dorothy_Mantooth]

I am only thinking out loud, from a Glasgow perspective. Who knows if it is a 6 or an 8, he might have been offered to Edinburgh first and they knocked it back, like what happened with Maitland last year.

[tigertattie]

If I find out that Edinburgh Knocked back Maitland and stuck with Lee Jones, I'll go coco loco!

[RDW]

Joking aside tattie - they actually did!!

take it you didn't see that on here when I broke the news?

[tigertattie]

I must have suppressed that memory!

I can understand if they knocked him to keep visser. But Lee "can't catch, can't tackle, can't pass, can't step" Jones!!!!

See

Now I'm angry again

[RDW]

I quote from the SRU CEO - "because they felt they had enough wingers"

 

[VinceWLB]

Glasgow are actually quite thin at 2nd row with only Kellock, Swinson, Ryder and very green Gray as 4th choice.

Would make sense if that was a lock.

[cakeordeath]

I absolutely detest the new Warriors strip. it reminds me of a 1970's football strip. When I look at it all I can think of is Kevin Keegan and perms.

[RDW]

Glasgow are actually quite thin at 2nd row with only Kellock, Swinson, Ryder and very green Gray as 4th choice.

Would make sense if that was a lock.

We have 8 - you're welcome to one or two of them!

Is McAlipne not from Stirling? Surely he wouldn't mind a switch to get more gametime?

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