New Edinburgh and Glasgow Teams Thread - 2013/2014

[George Carlin]

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We exhausted the other thread, so here we go with a new one for all of your pre-season banter needs.
 
1. Edinburgh   
 
Chairman: Jim Calder
CEO: Craig Docherty
Coach: Alan Solomons  
Captain: Greig Laidlaw
 
(a) Squad:
 
Props
Geoff Cross, WP Nel, Lewis Niven, Alasdair Dickinson
 
Hookers
Ross Ford, Steven Lawrie, Aleki Lutui, Alun Walker,
 
Locks
Sean Cox, Grant Gilchrist, Perry Parker, Izak van der Westhuizen, Robert McAlpine,
 
Loose Forwards
Dimitri Basilaia, David Denton, Roddy Grant, Stuart McInally, Ross Rennie, Hamish Watson,
 
Half Backs
Alex Black, Greig Laidlaw, Chris Leck, Harry Leonard, Piers Francis,
 
Centres
Ben Atiga, Ben Cairns, Nick De Luca, John Houston, Matt Scott,
 
Back Three
Tom Brown, Lee Jones, Greig Tonks, Tim Visser, Nikki Walker, Dougie Fife, Jack Cuthbert
 
(b) Transfers 2013/2014:
 
Players In
 
Nikki Walker from Worcester Warriors
Jack Cuthbert from Bath Rugby
Aleki Lutui from Worcester Warriors
Alasdair Dickinson from Sale Sharks
 
Players Out
 
Richie Rees to Newport Gwent Dragons
Netani Talei to Newport Gwent Dragons
Sep Visser released
Mike Penn to Moseley
Andy Titterrell to London Welsh
John Yapp to London Irish
Allan Jacobsen retired
James King retired
Steven Turnbull retired
 
(c) Elite Development Players 2013/2014:
 
Alex Allan (Edinburgh Accies)
Chris Auld (Gala)*
Magnus Bradbury (Boroughmuir)*
Phil Cringle (Heriot’s)
Bruce Dick (Melrose)*
Jamie Farndale (Edinburgh Accies)
Sam Hidalgo-Clyne (Heriot’s)
Neil Irvine Hess (Watsonians)*
Ewan McQuillin (Gala)*
George Turner (Heriot’s)
Hamish Watson (Edinburgh Accies)
 
* = new EDP player 
 
2. Glasgow  
 
Chairman: Charles Shaw
CEO: Nathan Bomrys
Coach: Gregor Townsend
Captain: Alastair Kellock
 
(a) Squad:
 
Fraser Brown, Hooker
Finlay Gillies, Hooker
Dougie Hall, Hooker
Pat MacArthur, Hooker
Michael Cusack, Prop
Ryan Grant, Prop
Ed Kalman, Prop
Moray Low, Prop
Gordon Reid, Prop
Jon Welsh, Prop
Jerry Yanuyanutawa, Prop
 
Jonny Gray, Lock
Alastair Kellock, Lock
Tom Ryder, Lock
Tim Swinson, Lock
Leone Nakarawa, Lock
 
James Eddie, Flanker
Chris Fusaro, Flanker
Rob Harley, Flanker
Tyrone Holmes, Flanker
 
Ryan Wilson, Number 8
Richie Vernon, Number 8
Josh Strauss, Number 8
 
Chris Cusiter, Scrum-half
Nikola Matawalu, Scrum-half
Henry Pyrgos, Scrum-half
 
Ruaridh Jackson, Fly-half
Duncan Weir, Fly-half
Scott Wight, Fly-half
 
Gabriel Ascarate, Centre
Mark Bennett, Centre
Alex Dunbar, Centre
Peter Horne, Centre
Byron McGuigan, Centre
 
Sean Lamont, Wing
Sean Maitland, Wing
Tommy Seymour, Wing
D.T.H. van der Merwe, Wing
 
Stuart Hogg, Fullback
Peter Murchie, Fullback
 
(b) Player Transfers 2013/2014:
 
Players In
 
Richie Vernon from Sale Sharks
Tyrone Holmes from Petrarca Rugby
Jerry Yanuyanutawa from London Irish
Gabriel Ascarate from US Carcassonne
Leone Nakarawa from Fiji Barbarians
 
Players Out
 
John Barclay to Scarlets
Nick Campbell to Jersey
Ofa Fainga'anuku to Worcester Warriors
Taylor Paris to Agen
Graeme Morrison retired
Rory Lamont retired
 
(c) Elite Development Players 2013/2014:
 
Gavin Lowe (Ayr)
Rory Hughes (Stirling County)
Jack Steele (Dundee)
Finn Russell (Ayr)
Ali Price (Bedford Blues)
Adam Ashe (Stirling County)
Will Bordill (Sale Sharks)
Andrew Redmayne (Dundee)
Fergus Scott (Currie)
George Hunter (Ayr)
Darcy Rae (Ayr)

[madmaccas]

Last minute change. Lee "can't catch, won't catch" Jones is out and Tom Brown is in. Atiga has taken his place on the bench.

[RDW]

Though Atiga was injured?

Jeez - imagine how slow a half injured Atiga will be! 

[Geordie]

Hogg has been brilliant since joining us...but i cant see him getting back into the Scotland squad...though as i say he has been in imperious form.

Theres loads to be interested here from a Falcons point of veiw. How does our (fast)two openside policy go against what i imagine will be a larger Edinburgh back row.
And has Brookes at TH been kept off the Nando's and put through his paces during the summer.

Last seasons meeting Edinburgh didnt turn up...but this could be a crackin game.

[madmaccas]

Glasgow Warriors team to play Exeter Chiefs, Sandy Park, Saturday 31st August (kick-off 3pm):


15.  Peter Murchie
14.  Tommy Seymour
13.  Sean Lamont
12.  Alex Dunbar
11.  Byron McGuigan
10.  Scott Wight
9.  Henry Pyrgos

1.  Moray Low
2.  Fraser Brown
3.  Jon Welsh
4.  Tim Swinson
5.  Jonny Gray
6.  Rob Harley
7.  Tyrone Holmes
8.  Josh Strauss (C)

Substitutes

16.  Pat Macarthur
17.  Ed Kalman
18.  Jerry Yanuyanutawa
19.  Leone Nakarawa
20.  Chris Cusiter
21.  Finn Russell
22.  Gabriel Ascarate
23.  Richie Vernon
24.  Mark Bennett
25.  James Eddie
26.  Chris Fusaro
27.  Gordon Reid
28.  Finlay Gillies

[madmaccas]

Great to see Cusiter back in action! All be it from the bench.

[tigertattie]

Lets have a sweep

I reckon Cusiter will come on around the 60 min mark.  What time do you think he will come off?

[jimbopip]

Warriors announcing their soon; I would like to see...
1.Coo
2.Gillies
3. Yanuyanu
4.Niko's mate
5. Harley (but it'll probably be Ryder)
6.Holmes
7.Fozzy
8. Vernon
9.Henry
10.Ruaridh
11DTH
12 Angel Gabriel
13:angel: 
14Schlong
15 Murchie
The possibility of a back row of Nakawara, Vernon and Fozzy is mouth-watering in terms of pace and attacking potential, will we ever see it? Mind you that set of backs isn't too shabby either.
I think selection will probably be on the basis of rotation so everyone in the squad gets a chance to impress, so 7,12,13 &15 could be up for grabs. Also, I think last week the performance was more important than the result : I think tomorrow will be about slapping Exeter down and gaining a psychological edge on them.

[madmaccas]

Warriors announcing their soon; I would like to see...

Already been announced, see above.

[IanBru]

I bloody love the look of that back row!

[jimbopip]

Oh well, typing your predicted line-up while the actual one is being announced = lots of egg on face.
 
Wight and McGuigan starting again; Toonie is giving them every chance to avoid a one way trip to MFL-land.
How many of this XV will start the opening game of the season?

[Geordie]

How many of this XV will start the opening game of the season?.

Depends what the result is...if it similar to last season...may be a few changes...

[IanBru]

Ach don't worry Jimbo, yours is exactly the back line I wanted see, though possibly excepting Wacko Jacko on grounds of his crookness.

[AsLongAsBut100ofUs]

The Cus is back (as is Finlay Gillies) - good to see

Glasgow Warriors vs Exe Chiefs

15 Peter Murchie

14 Tommy Seymour
13 Sean Lamont
12 Alex Dunbar
11 Byron McGuigan

10 Scott Wight
9 Henry Pyrgos

1 Moray Low
2 Fraser Brown
3 Jon Welsh
4 Tim Swinson
5 Jonny Gray
6 Robert Harley
7 Tyrone Holmes
8 Josh Strauss (Captain)

Substitutes

16 Pat MacArthur
17 Ed Kalman
18 Jerry Yanuyanutawa
19 Leone Nakarawa
20 Chris Cusiter
21 Finn Russell
22 Gabriel Ascarate
23 Richie Vernon
24 Mark Bennett
25 James Eddie
26 Chris Fusaro
27 Gordon Reid
28 Finlay Gillies

[GLove39]

Lets have a sweep

I reckon Cusiter will come on around the 60 min mark.  What time do you think he will come off?

Cusiter to injure himself walking from the bench to the pitch. Won't actually make it on...

[Geordie]

Wow the glasgow team has been announced 3 times...does nobody read.. 

[RDW]

Go easy on them Geordie - they are from Glasgow...

[AsLongAsBut100ofUs]

Wow the glasgow team has been announced 3 times...does nobody read.. 

Only twice, Geordie, once properly, once as an I would like to see team, and once to give me an excuse to use my favourite emoticon, which is narrowly ahead of in my all-time fave emoticon list  

[funnyExiledScot]

Has Bennett been dropped already?? I suppose one friendly is pretty good going for him. He must be tired. Bless.

[funnyExiledScot]

Last minute change. Lee "can't catch, won't catch" Jones is out and Tom Brown is in. Atiga has taken his place on the bench.

Please tell me that Farndale is injured. Surely he shouldn't be that far down the pecking order!?

I don't mind Brown, but he's a 15 rather than a winger.

[AsLongAsBut100ofUs]

Wow the glasgow team has been announced 3 times...does nobody read.. 

And of course, Geordie, anything that good is worth posting mutliple times - in fact, I may just go for it again!

Glasgow Warriors

15 Peter Murchie

14 Tommy Seymour
13 Sean Lamont
12 Alex Dunbar
11 Byron McGuigan

10 Scott Wight
9 Henry Pyrgos

1 Moray Low
2 Fraser Brown
3 Jon Welsh
4 Tim Swinson
5 Jonny Gray
6 Robert Harley
7 Tyrone Holmes
8 Josh Strauss (Captain)

Substitutes

16 Pat MacArthur
17 Ed Kalman
18 Jerry Yanuyanutawa
19 Leone Nakarawa
20 Chris Cusiter
21 Finn Russell
22 Gabriel Ascarate
23 Richie Vernon
24 Mark Bennett
25 James Eddie
26 Chris Fusaro
27 Gordon Reid
28 Finlay Gillies

[AsLongAsBut100ofUs]

Has Bennett been dropped already?? I suppose one friendly is pretty good going for him. He must be tired. Bless.

Only s tired as your new favourite, centre cum something, RV  

[funnyExiledScot]

Has Bennett been dropped already?? I suppose one friendly is pretty good going for him. He must be tired. Bless.

Only s tired as your new favourite, centre cum something, RV  

RV is better as an impact sub, where his extreme pace can really make a difference.

I'm just surprised that Townsend doesn't want his first choice centre pairing, Dunbar and Bennett, to start together pre-season as much as possible.

[tigertattie]

Has Bennett been dropped already?? I suppose one friendly is pretty good going for him. He must be tired. Bless.

he can't play! The kick off is passed his bedtime!

[jimbopip]

I'm just surprised that Townsend doesn't want his first choice centre pairing, Dunbar and Bennett, to start together pre-season as much as possible.[/quote]Not wanting to disagree with you FES, but Horne-Dunbar? This allows Dunbar to move out to 13, which I think is where his Scotland future may well lie. Or Dunbar-Schlong/ Mind you, when he isn't being a world class 10 Hoggy is also a brilliant 13. Then there's the angel Gabriel.  could be behind Murchie in the pecking order too. oh, obviously Vernon too. (I'm only doing this so our friends in the Library can cry into their claret at our riches)

[AsLongAsBut100ofUs]

Has Bennett been dropped already?? I suppose one friendly is pretty good going for him. He must be tired. Bless.

Only s tired as your new favourite, centre cum something, RV  

RV is better as an impact sub, where his extreme pace can really make a difference.

I'm just surprised that Townsend doesn't want his first choice centre pairing, Dunbar and Bennett, to start together pre-season as much as possible.

I'm not surprised at all, tbh - Bennett has had two starts, Schlong only one appearance off the bench - so the latter obviously needs match time before the season starts. will come off the bench in the second half - makes perfect sense to me  

[funnyExiledScot]

1. Interesting to hear that an avid Glasgow fan such as yourself believes Bennett to be so far down the pecking order. I had understood that he was the greatest rugby talent Scotland had ever known. Seems not.

2. Claret? I wouldn't put the stuff on my thrice cooked gastro-pub chips.

[jimbopip]

2. Claret? I wouldn't put the stuff on my thrice cooked gastro-pub chips.[/quote]I only know two wines since I start at the top of the wine list (alphabetically) and by the second the prices have caused a nosebleed. The one before claret is Bordox, you know makes your lips go numb and after a few pints your facial muscles stop responding and your expression remains glazed whatever anyone tries to say to you. 

[funnyExiledScot]

The best wine deal going when I was at uni was the Co-op 1.5 litre bottle of Soave - £4.20. Ideal for BYOB.

I've often wondered if Lee Jones drinks a whole one of those before running onto the pitch....

[AsLongAsBut100ofUs]

The best wine deal going when I was at uni was the Co-op 1.5 litre bottle of Soave - £4.20. Ideal for BYOB.

I've often wondered if Lee Jones drinks a whole one of those before running onto the pitch....

Normally stick to the Buckie meself       

[RDW]

Jimbo – I love it how despite you having been on this forum for a while now you still haven’t quite got to grips with the quote function yet!

[jimbopip]

Jimbo – I love it how despite you having been on this forum for a while now you still haven’t quite got to grips with the quote function yet!

Tutorials gratefully accepted; my offspring still cringe in embarrassment whenever anyone asks for my mobile number and then says, "How can you live without one?".
Actually they cringe in embarrassment on the rare occasions when I'm allowed to dress myself.

[RDW]

You manged just fine there - how long did that take? 

And seriously, how do you live without one?? 

[jimbopip]

As Charles Bukowski said, "The luck of the fool is inviolate" although sometimes Ruaridh Jackson pushes that concept to its limits.

[tigertattie]

no gonna lie, I don't know what inviolate means!

[nickj]

Agreed FES. Although the more I see the Edinburgh line-up the more I think Stuart McInally's decision to move to 2 is plain mental, both in terms of squad balance and the likelihood of him actually playing this season.

McInally could have made the 6 shirt his own this season, irrespective of whether he had exactly the right build for it or preferred playing 8.

On another note, what do people think of Bordill and Watson as our future options at 7? Do people rate them? Or are we hoping that Sale and Leicester saw something special and the SRU have picked up some bargains for the EDP?

Bordill looks pretty good when i have seen him play. Good pace, strong tackler and very good at turnovers.
Not seen much of Watson, but looks promising similar to Rennie in style. It still annoys me that the player who was meant to get Watsons place at Edinburgh was Alec Spence who played for the u20s the same time at Watson.  Suffered a couple of bad injuries after being rushed back by the SRU and missed out on the contract after initially being offered it. Spence would have been a great 7 and would have been pushing for the Scotland 7 jersey shortly. Great talent who was poorly mismanaged by the sru, played for the Gael force at 17 but broke his ankle playing for them, rushed back and suffered repeated hamstring injuries and then shoulder injuries due to the SRU overworking him.

Cheers Majestic:thumbsup: 

[tigertattie]

OMG, is it no five o'clock yet????

we'll be hitting 1000 posts again soon  
 
Must be annoying the

[nickj]

Agreed FES. Although the more I see the Edinburgh line-up the more I think Stuart McInally's decision to move to 2 is plain mental, both in terms of squad balance and the likelihood of him actually playing this season.

McInally could have made the 6 shirt his own this season, irrespective of whether he had exactly the right build for it or preferred playing 8.

On another note, what do people think of Bordill and Watson as our future options at 7? Do people rate them? Or are we hoping that Sale and Leicester saw something special and the SRU have picked up some bargains for the EDP?

Bordill looks pretty good when i have seen him play. Good pace, strong tackler and very good at turnovers.
Not seen much of Watson, but looks promising similar to Rennie in style. It still annoys me that the player who was meant to get Watsons place at Edinburgh was Alec Spence who played for the u20s the same time at Watson.  Suffered a couple of bad injuries after being rushed back by the SRU and missed out on the contract after initially being offered it. Spence would have been a great 7 and would have been pushing for the Scotland 7 jersey shortly. Great talent who was poorly mismanaged by the sru, played for the Gael force at 17 but broke his ankle playing for them, rushed back and suffered repeated hamstring injuries and then shoulder injuries due to the SRU overworking him.

Cheers Majestic:thumbsup: 

Where's Alex Spense now Majestic? He was listed as a Regional Academy Player in 2011? Is he still at Heriots?

[GLove39]

Video here of Dominic McKay blabbing on about the SRU's new video output but more importantly is that padded seats in the stand I see?????

[funnyExiledScot]

Spare a thought for the die hard Edinburgh fans who will be jumping on the long bus to Hawick round about now.....long evening ahead I suspect!

[RDW]

Video here of Dominic McKay blabbing on about the SRU's new video output but more importantly is that padded seats in the stand I see?????

I know we're a miserable bunch but I'm actually delighted to see Edinburgh, Glasgow and Scotland really trying new things and trying to get more exposure for the game. Even the snood video I think is great - they are at least trying to engage with the fans and come up with new initiatives.

Just think back to a few years ago when there was next to nothing coming out of the SRU, Edinburgh and Glasgow.

[poddy89]

just coming up for half time, edinbugh lead 9:0

[poddy89]

HALF-TIME: Edinburgh Rugby 9-0 Newcastle Falcons - controlled display from the men in black, 3/3 Laidlaw kicks earns the lead

[RDW]

In other news Edinburgh 9-0 at half time. Sounds like Edinburgh are the better team with some positive play, but knock ons and finals passes letting them down.

Roddy Grant off injured, as is VDV with a serious sounding injury.

[Tramptastic]

Edinburgh seem to be aggressive and committed in defense... what is this witchcraft?!

[RDW]

I'll be worried if we don't score a try this game though, considering we didn't score a try last week.

Sounds like there's been plenty attacks, just silly knock ons

[RDW]

Well FES the attendance at Mansfield park has been announced as 4035 - reckon we would have got that at Murrayfield??

[GLove39]

Don't get me wrong RDW, pleased that the SRU are trying out new things with social media. Not least cause it might give me a chance to work for them again!  

But what I was really wondering is in the video the seats around McKay look padded. Now I've sat all around Murrayfield, but don't ever recall padding?  

[Tramptastic]

I'll be worried if we don't score a try this game though, considering we didn't score a try last week.

Sounds like there's been plenty attacks, just silly knock ons

Ach put that down to change in coach/beginning of season etc... it should improve, I mean like I still remember a time when Glasgow were known for grinding out wins rather than clobbering teams 5 tries to nil. It'll come back, nae worries!

[GLove39]

Also decent crowd. Let's play all our games in Hawick..!

[RDW]

Hope you do get some work Glove - your stuff is significantly better than any of the crap the like of ITV trot out!

De Luca sin binned - when will he ever learn??

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