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Post by hampo17 Sat 19 Oct 2013, 7:06 am

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According to the IBF Jamie McDonnell has been stripped of his world bantamweight title he won in May against Mexican Julio Ceja. The organisation claims a failure to agree a defence against mandatory challenger Vusi Malinga within a required time is the reason they are taking the title off the champion..

In a statement to the Star and the Doncaster Free Press, an IBF spokesperson said: “Jamie McDonnell did not supply signed contracts for his mandatory defence scheduled for November 9 within the prescribed time according to IBF rule.

“By not doing so his title was declared vacant.”

The IBF also confirmed an appeal against the decision had been lodged by Matchroom Boxing head Eddie Hearn.

McDonnell. 27. has no official relationship with Hearn but it has been speculated that he would sign with him and Matchroom after last week declaring his intent to leave previous manager Dennis Hobson, although in a statement from the Sheffield-based promoter who masterminded McDonnell’s world title shot. Hobson has also disputed McDonnell leaving him and has lodged a complaint with the British Boxing Board of Control who will hold a hearing to decide whether their contract can be cancelled.

Statement from Dennis Hobson Promotions:

“We understand that the IBF have vacated Jamie McDonnell’s title as Bantamweight Champion because he failed to comply with a Resolution of the IBF Board of Directors. It is sad that Jamie McDonnell has been stripped of his World Title, especially when, in partnership with Dennis Hobson Promotions, he was able to achieve his boxing ambitions and become world champion at the Keepmoat Stadium in Doncaster on 11 May 2013. It was a fabulous night for Jamie, for his team, and for British boxing, and we were particularly pleased when Jamie was gracious enough to say that he would not have become world champion without the team at Dennis Hobson Promotions.

“Unfortunately, in recent weeks Jamie has allowed third parties to influence him, to advise him and to make representations on his behalf – without any reference to us. This is in clear contravention of the contractual relationship he has with Dennis Hobson Promotions. The consequences of such unauthorized influence, advice and representations by these third parties have obviously, with today’s news, been catastrophic for Jamie.”

What a shame Jamie McDonnell’s business has come to this, after a great effort in becoming world champion, on an unforgettable night in his home of Doncaster, he now finds himself without the title he worked so hard to obtain and now faces a contractual row with his promoter that looks like getting messy.

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Post by Strongback Sat 19 Oct 2013, 8:21 pm

Rowley wrote:So with one breath you say Hearn might have tapped him up but with the other you say he screwed him. Glad to see you are not letting your personal opinion oh Hearn cloud your judgement.
By tapping McDonnell up, which is what Hobson is insinuating, Hearn has screwed Hobson. McDonnell loses out because he no longer is a belt holder.

The judge will have to look at the contract between Hobson and McDonnell which we are told has not expired.

Eddie's in another court case but that's nothing new. The Hearns are delaying the transfer of the Olympic football stadium to West Ham due to nothing other than rank bitterness.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 19 Oct 2013, 8:24 pm

In all of this there is no suggestion that Hobson had a fight lined up for McDonnell so don't see how you can blame Hearn for that. McDonnell signalled he was unhappy then Hearn made his move not the other way round.

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Post by Strongback Sat 19 Oct 2013, 8:41 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:In all of this there is no suggestion that Hobson had a fight lined up for McDonnell so don't see how you can blame Hearn for that. McDonnell signalled he was unhappy then Hearn made his move not the other way round.

There is a contract in place.

Now there will be a court case.

Now McDonnell has no belt.


Read what Hobson is saying in the OP for another view to the the one you are presenting.


Hearn should have done a deal with Hobson cutting him in for a percentage of Moore's fights until the contract was up. Eddie probably figured he could just walk Hobson into the ground. Here's hoping Hobson is packing a pair of steel ones.


McDonnell isn't half as attractive to Eddie now with the belt gone.



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Post by Rowley Sat 19 Oct 2013, 8:42 pm

Believe warren claimed the same over burns? How did that one end up?

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 19 Oct 2013, 8:50 pm

I'm pretty sure Hearn is confident he's not breached the contract in any way or he wouldn't have pursued it. As Rowley says the Burns situation shows that Hearn knows his way around a contract. I could take note of what Hobson says but he's not going to be the most impartial of sources.

We all get it Strongy you hate the hearns and will blame them for everything.

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Post by Strongback Sat 19 Oct 2013, 9:59 pm

Rowley wrote:Believe warren claimed the same over burns? How did that one end up?

Hobson quote:

"Unfortunately, in recent weeks Jamie has allowed third parties to influence him, to advise him and to make representations on his behalf – without any reference to us. This is in clear contravention of the contractual relationship he has with Dennis Hobson Promotions.

“The consequences of such unauthorised influence, advice and representations by these third parties have obviously, with today's news, been catastrophic for Jamie."



We'll see what the judge says.


I'm using a hunch here but my money is on Hobson having more integrity than Frank.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 19 Oct 2013, 10:27 pm

My hunch is that Warren would have done anything to get money out of Hearn if there was a contravention of the contract. It's nothing to do with integrity.

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Post by Strongback Sat 19 Oct 2013, 10:34 pm

Whatever.


McDonnell no longer has a belt. He was under the supervision of Hearn. Dispute that.


I never said Warren or Hearn had integrity. They don't.

They are well matched. East End barrow boys done well. They deserve each other.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 19 Oct 2013, 10:38 pm

Did Hobson have a defence set up for McDonnell, think that might be why he was stripped more than anything.

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Post by Strongback Sat 19 Oct 2013, 10:48 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Did Hobson have a defence set up for McDonnell, think that might be why he was stripped more than anything.

He was no longer negotiating with the IBF. Matchroom were doing that.

It's not the first time Eddie has had problems filling in paperwork.


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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 19 Oct 2013, 11:28 pm

This is all started quite recently so in the 5 months since McDonnell won his title Hobson has seemingly done nothing to set up a fight but somehow you place all the blame on Hearn. The negotiations with the IBF would have been once the decision to strip him came about prior to which nothing had been done.

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Post by Strongback Sun 20 Oct 2013, 12:41 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:This is all started quite recently so in the 5 months since McDonnell won his title Hobson has seemingly done nothing to set up a fight but somehow you place all the blame on Hearn. The negotiations with the IBF would have been once the decision to strip him came about prior to which nothing had been done.

I'm ignoring you from now on.

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Post by catchweight Sun 20 Oct 2013, 1:31 am

Hearn is definately behind this. Hes very close to the IBF. Hobson went all out for Jamie but Hearn has sold him fools gold. McDonnell will be working in McDonalds in a few years. Sold the dummy by Hearn.

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Post by KC Sun 20 Oct 2013, 2:49 am

I seem to recall that McDonnell went away on holiday immediately after winning the title, at a time when he should have been taking advantage & promoting himself with his shiny new belt.
So think some of the blame for his lack of image/personality/celebrity status/profile is down to him - strike while the iron is hot - if that's what the split with Hobson is about?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 20 Oct 2013, 12:04 pm

After Warren and Chisora had their butts licked by the BBBc after Luxembourg-gate we all know Hobson is wasting his time......

It's hard to prove Hearn didn't anything wrong...He just says it was instigated by Jamie and he was just helping out

It's hard also to believe that Hearn as would any top-promoter didn't try to poach the kid.......Let's be honest this is a Boxing promoter we are talking about..

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Post by Strongback Sun 20 Oct 2013, 7:34 pm

The BBBofC are apparently backing Hobson for the moment anyway.

Are these contracts written in crayon?  They don't seem to be worth the paper they are written on.

Still Don King managed to squeeze a big lump out of Warren based on contract and Hearn out foxed King with the Eubank draw.


Truss, it's worth making the point that for all Hearn's glamour and silver tongued charm he's no different to Warren in how ruthless he is willing to be.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 21 Oct 2013, 9:51 am

"apparently" Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes 

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Post by Strongback Mon 21 Oct 2013, 12:52 pm

From about a week ago.



BBBoC back Dennis Hobson in McDonnell dispute
11.10.13

By @Livefight


The British Boxing Board of Control say that the manager's contract between himself and Jamie McDonnell is completely valid. They also state that they have received no complaints from McDonnell either.

This sheds new light onto the claims that the recently crowned 27-year old IBF Bantamweight champion from Doncaster has 'severed all ties' with his promoter.

The BBBoC's Robert Smith told the Sheffield Star that "The contract is still in place. Mr McDonnell has made no complaint against Mr Hobson. It states in the contract that should anyone wish to dispute the contract, they must make a submission to the Board who will take a decision. We will be organising a hearing soon."

It has been confirmed that Dennis Hobson is lodging his own complaint with the board over the fighter's conduct.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 21 Oct 2013, 2:24 pm

Strongback wrote:From about a week ago.



BBBoC back Dennis Hobson in McDonnell dispute
11.10.13

By @Livefight


The British Boxing Board of Control say that the manager's contract between himself and Jamie McDonnell is completely valid. They also state that they have received no complaints from McDonnell either.

This sheds new light onto the claims that the recently crowned 27-year old IBF Bantamweight champion from Doncaster has 'severed all ties' with his promoter.

The BBBoC's Robert Smith told the Sheffield Star that "The contract is still in place. Mr McDonnell has made no complaint against Mr Hobson. It states in the contract that should anyone wish to dispute the contract, they must make a submission to the Board who will take a decision. We will be organising a hearing soon."

It has been confirmed that Dennis Hobson is lodging his own complaint with the board over the fighter's conduct.
Let's see what happens............It should be the NBBBC........No B*ll***s British Board of control...

Warren should still be banned after the Luxembourg stunt.

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Post by Guest Mon 21 Oct 2013, 2:34 pm

Jamie should change his name to Klitschko then he could have his belt for a year or more and not defend it.

He's missed a trick there.

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Post by Strongback Mon 21 Oct 2013, 3:13 pm

The Klitschko's are able to fill in forms. The PhD prepared them for that.

Eddie is still having a few problems ticking boxes.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 21 Oct 2013, 3:25 pm

Strongback wrote:The Klitschko's are able to fill in forms. The PhD prepared them for that.

Eddie is still having a few problems ticking boxes.
Very good.........

Once Eddie gets Frampton back from Warren.......he'll be smarter than Hawking.

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Post by hazharrison Wed 23 Oct 2013, 12:39 pm

Good old Hobson -- might have the last laugh yet:

http://www.boxingscene.com/stuart-hall-vusi-malinga-play-ibf-title-clash--70895

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Post by Strongback Wed 23 Oct 2013, 4:04 pm

hazharrison wrote:Good old Hobson -- might have the last laugh yet:

http://www.boxingscene.com/stuart-hall-vusi-malinga-play-ibf-title-clash--70895


Jamie, Jamie, Jamie.............Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to device.



It would be a master stroke if Hobson makes it happen and then Hall wins. McDonnell might be waiting a very very long time to get a crack at the IBF belt.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 23 Oct 2013, 4:23 pm

Hobson won't win this......in the long term..

Big guy always wins in the end.......Where promoting is concerned..

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Wed 23 Oct 2013, 6:29 pm

Hearn with his IBF connections will get McDonnell a fight with the winner.

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