England v New Zealand match thread

[quinsforever]

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2.30pm at Twickenham on Saturday.

Betfair has england 5:1 against. Sounds about right to me.

Are NZ wearing black this time? I hope so. don't think France or anyone else found the Haka quite the same performed in what looked like white gym T-shirts.

My prediction, fwiw (and i know that's not much), NZ to win by 6, england to dominate at scrums, lineouts 50:50, 60% possession England but Joubert tough (but predictable and consistent) on holding on means isolated possession gives NZ the scoring edge from penalties, and NZ classically more clinical with open/broken field possession.

Really looking forwards to it though.

Anyone going?

[quinsforever]

First of all i Hate Owen Farrell the cocky little . Who the  does he think he is pushing Cruden like that?

Anyway unlucky England a really hard battle and i take my hat's off to you.
Personally I though Joe Marler was amazing and if you had won should have had MOM. He absolutely destroyed Franks at scrum time - well done sir.

We (northern hemisphere) are really close to cracking the big two southern hemisphere team but keep falling at the last hurdle
Just this Autumn now
Wales
England
and France have all come so close yet again this Autumn but have fallen in the last 15 minutes.
Sadly for you you are great at the breakdown but the All blacks are just that bit better which is what won them the game.

Well dont to the All blacks though they really are the best. Weren't there best today but still showed why they are the best

france and england have come close vs new zealand. wales were flattered by their scoreline vs south africa.

i like that farrell is abrasive and not bending over and showing excessive respect to the all blacks. fantastic to see. and cruden acknowledged he shouldnt have been arguing with joubert while farrell wanted to take a kick and there was only 10mins on the clock.

i get so bored of hearing people say the ABs "weren't at their best today", as if their opposition had nothing to do with it.  

[Jhamer25]

First of all i Hate Owen Farrell the cocky little . Who the  does he think he is pushing Cruden like that?

Anyway unlucky England a really hard battle and i take my hat's off to you.
Personally I though Joe Marler was amazing and if you had won should have had MOM. He absolutely destroyed Franks at scrum time - well done sir.

We (northern hemisphere) are really close to cracking the big two southern hemisphere team but keep falling at the last hurdle
Just this Autumn now
Wales
England
and France have all come so close yet again this Autumn but have fallen in the last 15 minutes.
Sadly for you you are great at the breakdown but the All blacks are just that bit better which is what won them the game.

Well dont to the All blacks though they really are the best. Weren't there best today but still showed why they are the best

france and england have come close vs new zealand. wales were flattered by their scoreline vs south africa.

i like that farrell is abrasive and not bending over and showing excessive respect to the all blacks. fantastic to see. and cruden acknowledged he shouldnt have been arguing with joubert while farrell wanted to take a kick and there was only 10mins on the clock.

i get so bored of hearing people say the ABs "weren't at their best today", as if their opposition had nothing to do with it.  

Yawn. What ever

Flattered by South Africa haha

Keep going  

[Hood83]

Man those All Blacks are good!!

Well done to England first of all. A really good game and I don't think anyone could argue if we had won it.

Positives: The starting pack look able to mix it with the best, we finally have that magic word; BALANCE. A lot of praise has to go to Rowntree for crafting the best England 8 of the last decade out of players that we all had some question marks about.

Negatives: Still quite a few sadly. Nothing huge but the backline balance isn't quite there. You get the feeling that even with Manu in there nothing really would have changed. The tactics for the backs aren't quite right yet but there is at least an idea of where we're going now. Lineout without Hartley is now just a minefield, Youngs can't play for England until he can hit his jumpers and Parling doesn't do enough to justify his place. Farrell is way off the attacking threat needed but if he can fix his tactical kicking he still might give enough for us. I'd take an ultra solid Farrell over any of the other options at the moment. Tomkins isn't our answer as back up to Manu. Although i'm not sure with the current tactics any 13 will look great, he just wanders in and out of games.

Still well done NZ, some stunning skills on display. And well done England, a brilliant performance but just not quite enough.

I reckon SA would still batter our pack at the moment. I think against everyone we're probably OK. But as good as Lawes and Launchbury are playing, I think we need a bigger lock AND a more powerful 6 at least against the Boks. Their pack is frightening.

[Taylorman]

The 100% thing looks on the cards with Ireland really letting some soft tries in today. Abs will be happy to get this win and looks like from most comments England see a lot of positives from this match- hard to tell how some perceive a loss. Definitely one England could have won with the ABs having to pull out some big moves to cap it off.

Bit strange now this ones out of the way as it feels like we werent looking at anything beyond this match.

England and the RC next year the world cup year. Suddenly feels such a long time to wait...

[Pal Joey]

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