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Post by quinsforever Sun 10 Nov 2013, 10:12 pm

First topic message reminder :

2.30pm at Twickenham on Saturday.

Betfair has england 5:1 against. Sounds about right to me.

Are NZ wearing black this time? I hope so. don't think France or anyone else found the Haka quite the same performed in what looked like white gym T-shirts.

My prediction, fwiw (and i know that's not much), NZ to win by 6, england to dominate at scrums, lineouts 50:50, 60% possession England but Joubert tough (but predictable and consistent) on holding on means isolated possession gives NZ the scoring edge from penalties, and NZ classically more clinical with open/broken field possession.

Really looking forwards to it though.

Anyone going?

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 15 Nov 2013, 7:35 pm

No disrespect to crowded house and all. But if we are musically the allblacks, NZ are the vatican city in comparison Wink

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Post by stub Fri 15 Nov 2013, 7:36 pm

doctor_grey wrote:England, Land of Hope and Glory.

Never give in,
No retreat
No nuthin:
Just Rock n Roll:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4J54_MvGL0
Good choice - and from your current town too?

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Post by stub Fri 15 Nov 2013, 7:38 pm

mystiroakey wrote:No disrespect to crowded house and all. But if we are musically the allblacks, NZ are the vatican city in comparison Wink
Tis true Mysti!!

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Post by stub Fri 15 Nov 2013, 7:46 pm

Think we should tart up the anthem though TBH.

Something like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaUsWfeULks

would be more rousing.

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Post by Cumbrian Fri 15 Nov 2013, 7:50 pm

Despite the nervousness I can't wait for the:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7UHd7NVegE
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Post by doctor_grey Fri 15 Nov 2013, 7:58 pm

stub wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:England, Land of Hope and Glory.

Never give in,
No retreat
No nuthin:
Just Rock n Roll:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4J54_MvGL0
Good choice - and from your current town too?
Nah, The Boss is from down the shore - near the beach area about 50 miles south of here. But Giants Stadium and the Meadowlands Arenas are his adopted venues. A few summers ago he filled Giants Stadium for 6 or 8 nights, a Jersey boy to his boot laces. Sometimes just shows up in pubs and bars where bands are playing and jams. Interesting guy. Bon Jovi is similar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx2u5uUu3DE

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Post by GloriousEmpire Fri 15 Nov 2013, 8:14 pm

https://youtu.be/n02PhHaeRG4

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Post by Cyril Fri 15 Nov 2013, 8:21 pm

Radiohead really tailed off after the the first three albums, didn't they?

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Post by doctor_grey Fri 15 Nov 2013, 8:29 pm

GloriousEmpire wrote:https://youtu.be/n02PhHaeRG4
That's New Zealand's natn'l anthem?

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Post by Rugby Fan Fri 15 Nov 2013, 8:40 pm

Seem to remember a player saying that, after the All Blacks loss in 1993, Neil Finn turned up in their dressing room and played a few songs to ease the pain.

Not sure if either side has lined up a minstrel to fill the same role for tomorrow.

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 15 Nov 2013, 8:44 pm

I've just been invited to join some friends at HQ tomorrow.

Should be very exciting, what an occasion.

Is anyone else going?

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Post by Cyril Fri 15 Nov 2013, 8:51 pm

maestegmafia wrote:I've just been invited to join some friends at HQ tomorrow.

Should be very exciting, what an occasion.

Is anyone else going?
Good choice. You're not going to see Wales though, maes?

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Post by stub Fri 15 Nov 2013, 9:01 pm

Cumbrian wrote:Despite the nervousness I can't wait for the:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7UHd7NVegE
One way or another - it will be good for sure!

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Post by stub Fri 15 Nov 2013, 9:05 pm

doctor_grey wrote:
stub wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:England, Land of Hope and Glory.

Never give in,
No retreat
No nuthin:
Just Rock n Roll:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4J54_MvGL0
Good choice - and from your current town too?
Nah, The Boss is from down the shore - near the beach area about 50  miles south of here.  But Giants Stadium and the Meadowlands Arenas are his adopted venues.  A few summers ago he filled Giants Stadium for 6 or 8 nights, a Jersey boy to his boot laces.  Sometimes just shows up in pubs and bars where bands are playing and jams.  Interesting guy.  Bon Jovi is similar.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx2u5uUu3DE
Don't really know the Geography too well but visiting a friend in Ridgemont, NY (I think) in Feb so might have a bit more idea after that... I saw The Boss in 1984 in Roundhay Park in Leeds when I was 14 or so. Far cry from those venues and Asbury park etc but great fun!

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Post by stub Fri 15 Nov 2013, 9:06 pm

GloriousEmpire wrote:https://youtu.be/n02PhHaeRG4
I like that one but don't think it'll get us going before the match!

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Post by stub Fri 15 Nov 2013, 9:07 pm

Cyril wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:I've just been invited to join some friends at HQ tomorrow.

Should be very exciting, what an occasion.

Is anyone else going?
Good choice. You're not going to see Wales though, maes?

Fantastic! Think I know who you'll be cheering for though..Sad 

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Post by stub Fri 15 Nov 2013, 9:15 pm

Cyril wrote:Radiohead really tailed off after the the first three albums, didn't they?

Well mainly, but there are some gems to be had later on . Kid A always got my fractious son to sleep too so for that I'm grateful! Creep at the Gloucester leisure centre way back when is also a fond memory...

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 15 Nov 2013, 9:18 pm

stub wrote:
Cyril wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:I've just been invited to join some friends at HQ tomorrow.

Should be very exciting, what an occasion.

Is anyone else going?
Good choice. You're not going to see Wales though, maes?
Fantastic! Think I know who you'll be cheering for though..Sad 
Stub I'll be cheering for whoever plays the best most exciting rugby as always. I would like to see those kiwis beaten but I don't think England, or anyone else in international rugby, have the quality to do it.

Sure to be a great day out and always grateful of a free ticket..!

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Post by stub Fri 15 Nov 2013, 9:22 pm

maestegmafia wrote:
stub wrote:
Cyril wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:I've just been invited to join some friends at HQ tomorrow.

Should be very exciting, what an occasion.

Is anyone else going?
Good choice. You're not going to see Wales though, maes?
Fantastic! Think I know who you'll be cheering for though..Sad 
Stub I'll be cheering for whoever plays the best most exciting rugby as always. I would like to see those kiwis beaten but I don't think England, or anyone else in international rugby, have the quality to do it.

Sure to be a great day out and always grateful of a free ticket..!
Fair play MM. Enjoy.

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Post by majesticimperialman Fri 15 Nov 2013, 9:24 pm

maestegmafia wrote:
stub wrote:
Cyril wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:I've just been invited to join some friends at HQ tomorrow.

Should be very exciting, what an occasion.

Is anyone else going?
Good choice. You're not going to see Wales though, maes?
Fantastic! Think I know who you'll be cheering for though..Sad 
Stub I'll be cheering for whoever plays the best most exciting rugby as always. I would like to see those kiwis beaten but I don't think England, or anyone else in international rugby, have the quality to do it.

Sure to be a great day out and always grateful of a free ticket..!
Maes. I thought that last year. And look what happend.

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Post by Cyril Fri 15 Nov 2013, 9:26 pm

maestegmafia wrote:
stub wrote:
Cyril wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:I've just been invited to join some friends at HQ tomorrow.

Should be very exciting, what an occasion.

Is anyone else going?
Good choice. You're not going to see Wales though, maes?
Fantastic! Think I know who you'll be cheering for though..Sad 
Stub I'll be cheering for whoever plays the best most exciting rugby as always. I would like to see those kiwis beaten but I don't think England, or anyone else in international rugby, have the quality to do it.

Sure to be a great day out and always grateful of a free ticket..!
Prawn sandwich brigade! Wink

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Post by Cyril Fri 15 Nov 2013, 9:27 pm

stub wrote:
Cyril wrote:Radiohead really tailed off after the the first three albums, didn't they?
Well mainly, but there are some gems to be had later on . Kid A always got my fractious son to sleep too so for that I'm grateful! Creep at the Gloucester leisure centre way back when is also a fond memory...
I just hope that if England win GE doesn't leave us High and Dry.

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Post by stub Fri 15 Nov 2013, 9:31 pm

Cyril wrote:
stub wrote:
Cyril wrote:Radiohead really tailed off after the the first three albums, didn't they?
Well mainly, but there are some gems to be had later on . Kid A always got my fractious son to sleep too so for that I'm grateful! Creep at the Gloucester leisure centre way back when is also a fond memory...
I just hope that if England win GE doesn't leave us High and Dry.

drumroll 


Nice!

I like GE now though....until tomorrow at least!


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Post by mystiroakey Fri 15 Nov 2013, 9:35 pm

We will see the biggest GG backlash in history if we win this won!

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Post by stub Fri 15 Nov 2013, 9:38 pm

mystiroakey wrote:We will see the biggest GG backlash in history if we win this won!

Yep, he'll most likely be like a pig in the proverbial!


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Post by maestegmafia Fri 15 Nov 2013, 9:42 pm

stub wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
stub wrote:
Cyril wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:I've just been invited to join some friends at HQ tomorrow.

Should be very exciting, what an occasion.

Is anyone else going?
Good choice. You're not going to see Wales though, maes?
Fantastic! Think I know who you'll be cheering for though..Sad 
Stub I'll be cheering for whoever plays the best most exciting rugby as always. I would like to see those kiwis beaten but I don't think England, or anyone else in international rugby, have the quality to do it.

Sure to be a great day out and always grateful of a free ticket..!
Fair play MM. Enjoy.
Cheers mate...

It's a great crowd we are going with. All lads I have met watching Bath at the Rec over the last few years. They know their beers. Haven't been invited to an international with them before so feel very honoured that u was offered a ticket at last minute. The bloke who has pulled out is about to become a grandfather tomorrow morning.

How times have changed, in the old days even your wife's funeral wouldn't get in the way of an international ticket...

Anyone have any ideas of a good pub to shout them dinner after the game?

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Post by stub Fri 15 Nov 2013, 9:55 pm

The only rugby pub I know in Twickenham is the Bluch which was good a long time ago!
 
Never tried the food but the beer/banter was excellent,
 
http://princeblucher.co.uk/
 
Fondest memory: South Africans adding cream to some sort of Irish Cream drink to make it longer... Laugh We were waiting for a heart attack...


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Post by maestegmafia Fri 15 Nov 2013, 10:13 pm

Looks like good honest pub food. Sounds like our local. Cheers for the tip

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 15 Nov 2013, 10:15 pm

"South Africans adding cream to some sort of Irish Cream drink to make it longer... Laugh"


Classic- WHAT!!

/headsgone

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Post by stub Fri 15 Nov 2013, 10:18 pm

mystiroakey wrote:"South Africans adding cream to some sort of Irish Cream drink to make it longer... Laugh"


Classic- WHAT!!

/headsgone

It's true - we were literally worried they might die.

But they didn't, they looked well on it...

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Post by quinsforever Fri 15 Nov 2013, 10:18 pm

enjoy the game Maes. am jealous you are going. i will be retreating into my man-cave to watch it alone, fearing and expecting the worst, but hoping for the best.

can't get as excited as you about exciting rugby. all i care about is a win. i would rather win extremely ugly than lose very pretty.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 15 Nov 2013, 10:25 pm

Lol I add whisky to my baileys to take the creamy edge of it!


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Post by stub Fri 15 Nov 2013, 10:29 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Lol I add whisky to my baileys to take the creamy edge of it!

Gotta say, IMO that is the correct tack!

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 15 Nov 2013, 11:53 pm

quinsforever wrote:enjoy the game Maes. am jealous you are going. i will be retreating into my man-cave to watch it alone, fearing and expecting the worst, but hoping for the best.

can't get as excited as you about exciting rugby. all i care about is a win. i would rather win extremely ugly than lose very pretty.
When you impartial to the result it's not so antagonising. The atmosphere is always better with a home win. Good luck England, reading the press today I think they'll need it

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Post by kingelderfield Sat 16 Nov 2013, 9:47 am

I'm feeling horribly conflicted. Can't believe we're not starting Ben Youngs or that our backline is still such a confluence of ignorance and stupidity and why oh why is Goode in our 23???

However all this apart I am desperate for an England performance and wish one and all the games of their lives.

Finally, as an aside it struck me last night how much this game has been looked at in isolation. Given that we play a further 3 tests at the end of the season it will be fascinating to compare the team selections come June.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Nov 2013, 10:01 am

stub wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:Lol I add whisky to my baileys to take the creamy edge of it!

Gotta say, IMO that is the correct tack!
Have to disagree. Why waste perfectly good whisky (of the single malt variety) on Bailey's? Mutton dressed as lamb is still mutton. Do you add whisky to your appletini as well? Very Happy 

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 10:03 am

Just chuck in the cheap stuff. That's all baileys is whiskey and cream..

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Post by stub Sat 16 Nov 2013, 10:06 am

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:
stub wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:Lol I add whisky to my baileys to take the creamy edge of it!

Gotta say, IMO that is the correct tack!
Have to disagree. Why waste perfectly good whisky (of the single malt variety) on Bailey's? Mutton dressed as lamb is still mutton. Do you add whisky to your appletini as well? Very Happy 
It's got to be better than adding more cream to it though Kia?!! Very Happy 

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Post by Gunner Sat 16 Nov 2013, 10:06 am

Just about to head to the pub to watch game.
May the best team win.
Try to keep the post match analysis civilised guys!

ABs by 10

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Nov 2013, 10:17 am

Stub my point is mate don't order it. It's creamy poopie. It's like being set up on a blind date and asking what does she look like and getting she's got a wonderful personality. Abort! No avoiding the bare naked truth: it's not worth your time. Just order a real drink! Very Happy 

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Post by stub Sat 16 Nov 2013, 10:35 am

Very Happy Kia - I think you've got me all wrong! I don't order it - these were big burly South Africans who had the baileys and cream habit! I was just agreeing with Mysti that if you're going to add anything to baileys adding whisky is more sensible than adding cream.

Just felt I had to clear my name there - didn't want anyone to have the image of me enjoying this afternoon's match with a nice bottle of Irish Cream... Very Happy 

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 10:38 am

Nothing wrong with Bailey's very useful in making an alcoholic milkshake
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Post by stub Sat 16 Nov 2013, 10:51 am

Bet you don't order it very often in the pub though CJ?

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 16 Nov 2013, 11:22 am

ChequeredJersey wrote:Nothing wrong with Bailey's very useful in making an alcoholic milkshake
The preferred concoction of cradle snatchers. Whistle 

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 11:33 am

Over here its great because the ladies love it.  Buy 'em a few rounds of Bailey's with a wee whisper of whisk(e)y or vodka.  And all to play for.  Not a blokes drink, unless you are already paired off with your selected female choice for the evening.  Then it becomes acceptable to show you sensitive (sic) side.  

Most of you gents will understand what I am writing here.  These are life lessons.  Having lived a long(er than expected) life, experiences are there to be shared with the next generation.  Please let me know if I need to go into more detail.  I am happy to do so.

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Post by stub Sat 16 Nov 2013, 11:34 am

This thread has taken a bit of an unfortunate turn! Shocked 

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 11:36 am

laughing laughing 


kiakahaaotearoa wrote:
ChequeredJersey wrote:Nothing wrong with Bailey's very useful in making an alcoholic milkshake
The preferred concoction of cradle snatchers. Whistle 

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 11:36 am

stub wrote:This thread has taken a bit of an unfortunate turn! Shocked 
How about if we turn it to how to get the kiwi ladies drunk and willing after the England victory?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYlDbv7MqE8

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 16 Nov 2013, 11:42 am

I might stick a baileys in my coffee thinking about it.. The best way to drink it

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Post by stub Sat 16 Nov 2013, 11:43 am

doctor_grey wrote:
stub wrote:This thread has taken a bit of an unfortunate turn! Shocked 
How about if we turn it to how to get the kiwi ladies drunk and willing after the England victory?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYlDbv7MqE8

Much better... Very Happy 

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