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Post by VDT Mon 18 Nov 2013, 9:19 am

Continuing the series of articles for the Journal about Most Disappointing XI's - This week, I’m doing Man Utd's XI

I'm looking for your suggests and reasons, why players should make the final XI - I'm not looking bad players with terms of ability, looking for the players that arrived for huge money and/or big expectations but didn't do it for the Red Devils

Will be quoting the best opinions in the Article

Thanx again Lads for your help! Hug 

Link to Liverpool Most Disappointing XI
http://v2journal.com/22/post/2013/11/liverpools-worst-xi.html
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Post by compelling and rich Mon 18 Nov 2013, 9:28 am

veron- not much needs to be said really
berbatov- club record signing just never suited our style of play slowed everything down
kleberson- Brazilian world cup winner and our first Brazilian was a big disappointment
Nani - loads of ability and even still now you think he could become decent but just never delivers, big transfer fee as well
anderson- transfer fee only eclipsed by the size of his arse!

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Post by compelling and rich Mon 18 Nov 2013, 10:49 am

for keeper it has to be between taibi and barthez for me

taibi was a undoubted massive flop at 4.5 mil but then again history has taught us he was simply rubbish in the first place and we got rid soon as so it didn't damage us too badly, where as barthez was a world cup winner and huge reputation who was very poor, his added reputation and transfer fee meant he got much more of a chance than taibi and cost us more in the long run. so barthez for me

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Post by Crimey Mon 18 Nov 2013, 11:59 am

Juan Sebastien Veron has got to be top, considered world class before signing, a very exciting signing for Manchester United but struggled with the Premier League. The only saving grace was some how tricking Chelsea into paying a fair bit to take him off of United.

Michael Owen, while he struggled with injuries at Newcastle and the signing was an odd one, there will have been a lot of people, including myself who thought he could turn it around at United, considering he wasn't that old and hadn't been that bad for Newcastle when not injured. Although never given a real chance, never showed any sign of being good enough to deserve one.

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Post by compelling and rich Mon 18 Nov 2013, 1:22 pm

never expected anything from owen and i will always give him a pass simply for that winner at OT in the 4-3, i was there!

also when he did play always thought he did ok, scored hat trick in europe think it was against wolfsburg. then he was injured more often than not which was to be expected

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Post by J.Benson II Mon 18 Nov 2013, 2:58 pm

Probably Forlan. When most players flop at a big club, its the beginning of the end for their career. With Forlan, it was the end of the beginning.

Veron and Berbatov were fairly disappointing given how immensly talented they were although the latter still played a big part in United's 2010/11 PL season.

Hargreaves? Top player and instrumental in the 2008 PL/CL double but barely played after that.

Bebe? Laugh 

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Post by Stella Mon 18 Nov 2013, 3:15 pm

Barthez - LIABILITY
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Kleberson
Djemba Djemba
Veron
Berbatov
Porbosky
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Post by compelling and rich Mon 18 Nov 2013, 4:16 pm

Porbosky is a great shout, never lived up to his euro 96 form

What about liam miller he was labeled as the new roy keane Laugh 

Blanc was pretty shocking, he was a tad old though

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Post by All hail Lubo Mon 18 Nov 2013, 7:15 pm

No Manchester United fan but surely the likes of Veron, Anderson, Djemba-Djemba, Fortune and Bebe have to be in there.

What about Macheda, big talent and expected to be a top player, doesn't look at the minute like he's going to make it

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Post by DP Tue 19 Nov 2013, 11:42 am

Kusczak - Zero authority in the box and made some silly, silly mistakes. Barthez was also a liability.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue 19 Nov 2013, 1:07 pm

I think Owen survives from that goal against city and his wolfsburg hat trick.

Veron or Hargreaves got to be really. Bebe was a nonsense.

There's a few like Fortune who did a solid job and never had much else expected of them. Blanc and Liam Miller make good calls, Poborksy was part of some cracking moments so can escape.

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Post by DP Tue 19 Nov 2013, 2:15 pm

Obertan. Enough said.

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Post by dummy_half Tue 19 Nov 2013, 4:14 pm

Most disappointing is not necessarily the same as 'worst' - Veron is a definite for disappointing on the grounds of his fee and expectations, but he was an occasionally good performer and has shown both before and since what a good player he is.

Forlan's a good shout - been outstanding in Spain and for Uruguay, but form deserted him at Man U.

The likes of Fortune, Park etc are all decent squad players and nothing more, so not really disappointing, just not all that great.

Taibi was obviously the worst GK, and Barthez is a good shout for the most disappointing team, but can I also suggest Bosnich - very good keeper at Villa, but struggled to establish himself at United and only had the one season as first choice before Barthez was brought in.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue 19 Nov 2013, 11:44 pm

Bosnich I would definitely agree with. Veron counts as a disappointment rather than a bad player.

Dong Fangzhuo is the most notable exploitation of being Asian you'll ever see in a football signing.

Arguably, Ravel Morrison. Not getting his head on to be in that first team by now.

Anderson would notch on there too, so much expected. Jordi Cruyff was crap too, and David Bellion was baffling.

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Post by compelling and rich Tue 19 Nov 2013, 11:55 pm

bit controversial but i might add wes brown to the list, simply most disappointing because he was always injured. when fit and playing he was class. in the 2008 season he finally got a run in the team and was great playing out of position all season

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Post by hampo17 Wed 20 Nov 2013, 1:31 pm

Taibi - I still remember him flattening Neville.
Bebe
Bellion
Anderson
Klebberson
Djemba-Djemba
Forlan
Bosnich
Cruyff
Fortune
Alan Smith
Veron
Owen Hargreaves
Ralph Milne - Described by SAF himself as his worst signing
William Prunier
Obertan 
Berbatov - £30m down the drain.

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Post by VDT Fri 22 Nov 2013, 2:42 pm

Gonna start writing the article on Monday

Thanx for everyone's suggestions, Could i have more Defenders?

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Post by Ent Fri 22 Nov 2013, 7:09 pm

Bosnich was brutal as most were thinking he could do a job and he was just fat.

Defenders is difficult as there haven't been that many highly thought of flops, despite having some terrible players over the years. Prunier is a comedy figure as he got half a game on loan and was sent back to France but at the time I think people thought he must be good to be getting a start. How wrong were they.

Midfield, veron, miller - Anderson, expecting the new ronaldinho instead got fat boy fat who has no basic footballing skills. Miller. Poborsky again we all thought would be amazing but was actually pretty crap.

Striker, garry birtles (apologies if it is pl only) arrived for a huge fee as a top striker and European cup winner with forest. Struggles for goals and went back to them 2 seasons later.

Berbatov wasn't disappointing as I expected him to be crap and not fit in our system. Tevez was disappointing for a whole host of reasons.

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Nov 2013, 7:14 pm

Bebe?

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Post by hampo17 Fri 22 Nov 2013, 7:23 pm

What are United fans memories of Jaap Stam? Only just realised he cost £10.6m, the way he left the club was shocking.

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Post by Ent Fri 22 Nov 2013, 7:49 pm

Brilliant 3 years though, top defender in his time- beast.

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Post by compelling and rich Fri 22 Nov 2013, 7:52 pm

always rated stam, one of the best defenders we've had during fergies era. between rio, vidic and him for the best. the way he left was strange but he was 29 and coming off a bad injury and a very big offer came in. dont see it as such a mistake as others as soon as he left he was banned for failing a drugs test and also had a fair few injuries. showed his class back at ac milan though.

defenders is difficult, perhaps fabio could be added as a disappointment, was supposed to be the better of the two twins but has looked well away from being any where near his brother.

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Post by TopoftheChops Fri 22 Nov 2013, 8:07 pm

forlan has to be a shout

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Post by Ent Fri 22 Nov 2013, 10:07 pm

Not much of a disappointment as came with little hype and was set to sign for middleborough.

Hope rather than expectation- in hindsight disappointing given the rest of his career.

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Nov 2013, 10:19 pm

Obertan (multiple club disappointment, truly horrific at Newcastle United. How we managed to pay £3m for him from you still astounds me to this day. We now can't get rid of him & he's on a five year deal. Shocking.)

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Post by Ent Sat 23 Nov 2013, 12:16 am

He wasn't a disappointment due to that john!!
Shocking player!

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Post by Ent Sat 23 Nov 2013, 12:17 am

Stam was like vidic with rios pace, a scary scary man.

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Post by Guest Sat 23 Nov 2013, 12:25 am

Birtles is a great shout Ent. Proper failure.

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Post by VDT Mon 25 Nov 2013, 2:14 pm

Need Leftbacks?

Could i have some of your full XI's and i'll add them to the end of the article.

also if you'd like me to uses your real name rather than your V2 User Name - please PM them to me
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Post by Crimey Mon 25 Nov 2013, 3:17 pm

GK - Ben Foster

RB - Wes Brown
CB - Laurent Blanc
LB - Fabio

RM - Nani
CM - Anderson
CM - Juan Sebastien Veron
CM - Hargreaves
LM - Quinton Fortune

ST - Michael Owen
ST - Carlos Tevez

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Post by Stella Mon 25 Nov 2013, 3:23 pm

Put Fortune at LB and have Obertan at LM?
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Post by compelling and rich Mon 25 Nov 2013, 4:45 pm

Gk- barthez
Ĺb-fabio
Cb-blanc
Cb-brown (purely through injuries)
Rb-hargreaves
Ĺm-nani
Cm-anderson
Cm-kleberson
Rm-porborsky
Am-veron
Cf-berba

Would appear if you are brazilian you have a decent chance of getting in the team

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Post by compelling and rich Mon 25 Nov 2013, 4:47 pm

Fellaini keeps playing like he is he's got a chance of getting in the team soon

On paper my team doesnt look too bad, just never made it at united

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Post by Stella Mon 25 Nov 2013, 4:48 pm

Nice or bad team, compelling thumbsup 
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Post by VDT Wed 27 Nov 2013, 11:32 am

Any more complete XI's - hoping to submit it tomorrow
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Post by John Cregan Wed 27 Nov 2013, 3:51 pm

George Best - never got close to what he could have been.Retired in his mid 20's.................

When he is referred to by some as United's best ever player, it's an insult to the really great ones like Law, Charlton, Keane, Scholes...................

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