Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread V

[Pr4wn]

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[Pr4wn]

Revis will apparently be released if we can't trade him.

[GSC]

Well that went well.

[GSC]

Ultimately 16m is just too much for any CB. Oakland might pony up with its 60m cap space mind

[Thomond]

There are Bucs fans who wonder why they're seen as a joke nationally. This is why. It would be a ridiculous move, was hoping it would be a smoke screen but seems not. Just terrible, terrible.

[Dorothy_Mantooth]

Revis will apparently be released if we can't trade him.

If he is on the Roster by Wednesday evening 4th Round pick due to the Jet becomes a 3rd Rounder, so I would expect him to be gone by then.

As GSC says the $16m cap hit for a DB was just too much and the fact that the Bucs can't find a trade partner with anyone else in the league proves that.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

For me, Revis is a cut above the rest of the FA CB's out there, sure his salary is a big hit but he's a once in a generation type player. He was still amazing despite only being like 75-80% last year

[Pr4wn]

That's exactly why he's worth the salary for us, in my opinion. I'll be gutted if he's released. To just cut a player that you gave up a 1st round pick for is beyond stupid.

[sodhat]

It wouldn't surprise me if Revis has said he's not looking to play in a Tampa 2 system, and that's motivating the trade.

Equally though, $16m a year for a guy that isn't a perfect system fit may be too much for a team with other areas to build too.

[GSC]

Different regime ultimately. That first means nothing to Lovie and co like Richardson in Cleveland

[Dorothy_Mantooth]

Just goes to prove again that when talking contract numbers, its really only guranteed money that is worth taking any real notice of.

Also worth rememebring the next time we are all moaning about a player holding out.

That said in this situation Revis is still going to do rather well. I am sure the massive signing bonus he will pick up elsewhere will soften the blow somewhat.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

In news that isn't Revis, Andre Roberts is gonna sign in Washington.

Like that, he's a good WR, slightly surprised Arizona letting him go

[Number-25]

I read something this morning, think it was on Prootballtalk (I know), that said that Revis' contract was structured in a way that allowed Tampa Bay to reduce his cap hit this year to $6m by converting a chunk of it to a bonus. If true then it suggests that this isn't really about money. Either Revis doesn't want to be there anymore or Tampa just don't want to pay him. I'd imagine it's probably the first one and the Bucs just don't want to start a new regime with a high profile distraction on board.

[Pr4wn]

Buccaneers have apparently signed Michael Johnson to a 5 year deal, $43.75m with $24m guaranteed.

[BamBam]

Apparently the Pats and Broncos are in for Revis

[BamBam]

Whitner to Browns also on the cards

[GSC]

Michael Johnson gets almost as much guaranteed as Bennett in total. Big price tag for a good but not great player

[Number-25]

It's not like the Bucs to overpay.....

[Lowlandbrit]

Michael Johnson gets almost as much guaranteed as Bennett in total. Big price tag for a good but not great player

Bennett took a discount deal to stay in Seattle, Johnson was pretty much the only good young pass rusher to actually hit the market. Was hardly going to take less than Griffen.

[NYJ]

For me, Revis is a cut above the rest of the FA CB's out there, sure his salary is a big hit but he's a once in a generation type player. He was still amazing despite only being like 75-80% last year

And being utilised incorrectly. I really don't want him to go to New England.

It wouldn't surprise me if Revis has said he's not looking to play in a Tampa 2 system, and that's motivating the trade.

Equally though, $16m a year for a guy that isn't a perfect system fit may be too much for a team with other areas to build too.

Revis fits in every single system. The problem is, if you don't fit your whole defense around him, you're not going to get the most out of him. Match him up man to man with the oppositions best receiver and roll coverage to the other side of the field and you'll get the best CB in the history of the game.

Rex knows what he's doing with Revis. Please come back, Darrelle.   

[GSC]

I don't see the Browns as players for Revis, when you factor in Hadens new extension, that's a lot to invest in 1 position.

He'd have to take a hefty paycut to come here I suspect.

A return to New York seems unlikely given the nature of his exit, and Woodys involvement in it.

Oakland seems most likely at this point, not exactly a secret Revis loves getting paid

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Edeltron shall hit the market

Someone's gonna overpay massively for him but still

[GSC]

Dallas bows to conventional decision making and releases Ware

[Number-25]

And we're off......

[Lowlandbrit]

Dansby and (W)hitner to the Browns, Albert to the Dolphins.

[Number-25]

Owen Daniels released by Houston

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Raiders paid for Saffold, nothing ever changes

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Raiders paid for Saffold, nothing ever changes

Oh and Veldeer and Houston signed perfectly reasonable deals elsewhere. Oh and Saffolds gonna play guard. Lolz

[BamBam]

Is he?? They paid 42m for a guard   I was sure they were going to put him at LT

[GSC]

Falcons to a 3-4 then

[Lowlandbrit]

Speaking of overpaying for Guards: Zane Beadles to the Jags for 5 years/30 million (13 guaranteed).

[Number-25]

Says on NFL.com that Saffold will play at Tackle in Oakland. He's certainly getting LT money.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Well if they're intending on playing him at LT one feels they're gonna be in for a shock

[GSC]

Unless Oakland drafts a tackle

[Number-25]

Yep, don't think anyone would disagree there Olly.

[GSC]

Tbf there's little wrong with Saffolds play, he just can't stay healthy

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Walter Thurmond to the Jags is a nice addition.

Atlanta suddenly looking like drafting someone like Khalil Mack

[GSC]

The Redskins and Bucs seem to be adopting a shotgun approach so far

[GSC]

Malcolm Jenkins gets 18m over 3 years. Versatility helps, can come up and cover TEs and slot guys

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

San Fran traded for Gabbert.

Lololololololololololol

[Lowlandbrit]

Niners have traded for Blaine Gabbert.

[GSC]

I get SF has a million picks, but don't really see the point in that. Wait for him to be cut

[BamBam]

Has Dan Snyder just won the 49ers be GM for the day competition?

I reckon we could pick up a long snapper who would be more useful with a 6th round pick

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

That's quite possibly the most bizzare thing ever

TJ Ward to Denver. Damn

[BamBam]

Gabbert actually makes more than Kaep

[BamBam]

Please don't get hurt Colin   

[BamBam]

Ward is a good signing

[GSC]

Don't worry Skins fans, Snyder will be home in time to give Byrd 50m

[BamBam]

@Michael_Fabiano: Players Gabbert was drafted ahead of in 2011 -- JJ Watt, Robert Quinn, Andy Dalton, Colin Kaepernick, Torrey Smith, Randall Cobb. Yikes.

[BamBam]

Ward - 5.5m a year

Whitner - 7m a year

#Browns

[BamBam]

Have any receivers signed yet?

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