Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread Part 'x'

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I wouldn't be upset, if it were limited to League 2 and below, and had a quota of English players with an age cap.

[Crimey]

Yeah Soldado suffered because Tottenham refused to play in a way that suited his style, then when they did start providing him service he had been so starved that his confidence was shot. A summer's rest and a new manager who might actually want to use him and I think he will come good.

Think Jack Wilshere has been a let down, struggled to make any kind of impact at all this year, injuries haven't helped but with Arteta, Ramsey out for a while there was the chance for him to cement himself as the first choice central midfielder but he has struggled to ever really impose himself.

[Guest]

Giroud's goals alone have won the Arse 5 matches and he's contributed to a couple of draws too.

[compelling and rich]

soldado scoring a pen isnt winning points for his team, if he was playing the pen would have been more than likely scored anyway

[Guest]

defoe scored loads in europe i think john.. i think soldado was benched for defoe in most of those 'lesser' games.

Soldado bagged a hat-trick vs Anzhi, that's what I remembered. Yeah, JD was preferred though usually.

Giroud's **** haircut basically flicked it past Tim Krul at St. James' Park. It barely touched or altered it's path past Krul from Arteta's free-kick, so not sure we can give him that one in all honesty.   

[Nakatomi Plaza]

I think there's a bit of wumming going on regarding Soldado, but I'm bored so I'll bite.Saying Soldado won Spurs 15 points on his own is a piece of spin Alastair Campbell would be proud of. C & R spot on with his thinking.

He may well come good, but if you'd asked any Spurs fan at the start of the season whether they'd be happy with a return of six league goals from their record signing, I doubt they'll take it.

Changing tact, another disappointment was Dani Osvaldo. A rare black mark for Southampton

[Guest]

soldado scoring a pen isnt winning points for his team, if he was playing the pen would have been more than likely scored anyway

Like when Adebayor took one at West Brom?

[compelling and rich]

soldado scoring a pen isnt winning points for his team, if he was playing the pen would have been more than likely scored anyway

Like when Adebayor took one at West Brom?

theres always going to be examples of someone missing, but more often than not they are scored. and if i remember correctly spurs came back into that game and won points anyway, without the help of the useless soldado

[compelling and rich]

just found this stat to back me up

in the history of the prem:

Penalties Scored % 85.02
Penalties Missed % 3.69
Penalties Saved % 11.30

[mystiroakey]

ok whats the percentage of goals scored from a pen- as some of the saved ones still end up in the back of the net- either way though scoring from a pen is closer to 9 in 10 than 8 in 10.


we all expect to score from a pen- unless its a pen shoot out and england are playing

[Fernando]

just found this stat to back me up

in the history of the prem:

Penalties Scored % 85.02 < Foreigners
Penalties Missed % 3.69
Penalties Saved % 11.30 < England Players

[mystiroakey]

just found this stat to back me up

in the history of the prem:

Penalties Scored % 85.02 < Foreigners
Penalties Missed % 3.69
Penalties Saved % 11.30 < England Players

I take it Rickie Lambert is actually from nigeria then!

[Champagne_Socialist]

just found this stat to back me up

in the history of the prem:

Penalties Scored % 85.02 < Foreigners
Penalties Missed % 3.69
Penalties Saved % 11.30 < England Players

Would be interesting to counter that view and find out in the EPL which nation's players have the highest score/miss percentage for penalties. I'm sure English players do well.

[Fernando]

just found this stat to back me up

in the history of the prem:

Penalties Scored % 85.02 < Foreigners
Penalties Missed % 3.69
Penalties Saved % 11.30 < England Players

I take it Rickie Lambert is actually from nigeria then!

Someone didn't quite get the sarcasm   

[Hammersmith harrier]

The top 5 based on conversion rate are all English; Baines, Le Tissier, Beattie, Dicks and Murphy, 4 misses between them from 89 penalties.

Think your stats are a little bit off C and R, this season has seen the highest conversion rate and it's only at 83% so imagine that overall it's more likely to be in the 70's.

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2013-14/feb/poll-who-is-best-penalty-taker-in-barclays-premier-league.html

[mystiroakey]

just found this stat to back me up

in the history of the prem:

Penalties Scored % 85.02 < Foreigners
Penalties Missed % 3.69
Penalties Saved % 11.30 < England Players

I take it Rickie Lambert is actually from nigeria then!

Someone didn't quite get the sarcasm   

where is the sarcasm?

we are known as a bad pen taking nation on the international scene- but we have also have/had some good ones at club level. Sorry mate just dont get it  

[compelling and rich]

The top 5 based on conversion rate are all English; Baines, Le Tissier, Beattie, Dicks and Murphy, 4 misses between them from 89 penalties.

Think your stats are a little bit off C and R, this season has seen the highest conversion rate and it's only at 83% so imagine that overall it's more likely to be in the 70's.

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2013-14/feb/poll-who-is-best-penalty-taker-in-barclays-premier-league.html

not my stats mate just found them on here - http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Premier_League_Penalty_Statistics.html

1,407 scored 61 missed 187 saved

is what they have got down, figure out your percentages from that   

[Hammersmith harrier]

1888 total penalties of which 1438 were scored to give a conversion rate of 76%, does seem a bit low and wouldn't have thought that one in four were missed.

[mystiroakey]

How good was seaman though- over 30% saved!! yet he lost his fair share of pen shot outs for england- gutting

[NickisBHAFC]

Biggest Let Down/Dissapointment of the Season

Soldado
Van Wolfswinkel
Man United as a whole
Vincent Tan inexcusably sacking Malky Mackay
Ozil has hardly set the world on fire

[Nakatomi Plaza]

To be fair to Seaman, he was in goal when we won our only shoot-out against Spain.

[Duty281]

How good was seaman though- over 30% saved!! yet he lost his fair share of pen shot outs for england- gutting

The only shoot-out England ever won was when Seaman was in goal!

[mystiroakey]

3 man u players in the worst pen conversion stats over 10 goals(4 if you count owen)----

to be honest i think that's more about the fact that they have been awarded 1500 out of the 1800

[Hammersmith harrier]

How good was seaman though- over 30% saved!! yet he lost his fair share of pen shot outs for england- gutting

Was only Germany in 96 and Argentina in 98 that he lost.

[Hammersmith harrier]

3 man u players in the worst pen conversion stats over 10 goals(4 if you count owen)----

to be honest i think that's more about the fact that they have been awarded 1500 out of the 1800

Only Rooney out of them was our penalty taker Mysti, back when we had Yorke and Sheringham it was Irwin who took them.

[mystiroakey]

amazing that those players still took so many though as back up pen takers

[Hammersmith harrier]

They didn't Mysti, Yorke was Villas first choice penalty taker before he joined us while I don't remember Sheringham taking a single one for us.

[mystiroakey]

oh right got ya- I thought Sheringham only played for you guys tbh- Never remember him playing elsewhere

[Dolphin Ziggler]

If Soldado scored the winner in a 1-0 then he earned them 2 points

[mystiroakey]

The above shows how insanely bad my memory is- Teddy was at heart probally a spurs player which i remembered seconds after posting the above

[Dolphin Ziggler]

You dont remember Sheringham playing anywhere but Man United?!

[Hammersmith harrier]

The bad thing is I barely remember him playing for us aside from the match winning cameo against Bayern but I do tell a lie think he missed a penalty on his debut for us.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Ahhh, there we go. He was sensational in his 60s for us too.

Whisper it, but I think Hughton is harshly rated on here cos all Olly does is whine about him. Not the most exciting appointment if he goes to WBA, but I bet you they wouldn't go down.

Saying that, if he was in the running for our job I'd be livid. I'm equally worried about Malky suddenly apologising and accepting the cash, I hope thats a pre-cursor for him taking the Norwich job as I want him nowhere near East London.

[mystiroakey]

You dont remember Sheringham playing anywhere but Man United?!

Lost my mind for a few minutes.. I am old and losing my mind young lad

I can only picture him at Tottenham now!!

[Guest]

I remember Sheringham netting the winner in the first ever Super Sunday for Forest.

Around about the time the Tango Man was slapping folk for fun. You you lads missed a good un with the Tango Man.

[mystiroakey]

I remember the tango man!!

He needs to come back

[Duty281]

And Teddy was at Portsmouth during the twilight of his years.

[Guest]

I remember the tango man!!

He needs to come back

Do you remember they actually banned that ad cos kids were doing it at school! The mid 80's - mid 90's was the golden age for adverts Mysti. We had it good   

[mystiroakey]

Adverts- what about the childrens tv shows like rainbow and the magic round about. I think I should sue the Networks.. My mind has been damaged.

[Duty281]

And Sheringham nearly scored one of the greatest England goals of all time against Argentina in 2002 - it would have overshadowed Owen's effort in '98 if it went in.

[Guest]

Rainbow was top notch but I wouldn't trust that Bungle as far as I could throw him. And don't even get me started on Penfold from Danger Mouse. An utter liability.

[mystiroakey]

Joe coles goal!!!!

I have no idea when it was scored- every tourney since 1986 has melted into one big mess and disaster.

[Guest]

And Sheringham nearly scored one of the greatest England goals of all time against Argentina in 2002 - it would have overshadowed Owen's effort in '98 if it went in.

No England goal will overshadow that Duty.

[mystiroakey]

Gazas v scotland was the most dramatic and skillful goal ever- straight after a pen miss from scotland.

[Duty281]

Against Sweden in 2006 for Joe Cole's goal, Mysti.

As Clive said - Why not? Oh why not?

And er...pen miss? It was saved by Seaman's elbow!

[Guest]

Gazas v scotland was the most dramatic and skillful goal ever- straight after a pen miss from scotland.

Probably in the minority here but Gazza was vastly overrated   

[Guest]

Against Sweden in 2006 for Joe Cole's goal, Mysti.

As Clive said - Why not? Oh why not?

And er...pen miss? It was saved by Seaman's elbow!

Did he ever thank Uri Geller for that?

[Duty281]

Wash your mouth out with soap and water, please Freek.

[mystiroakey]

Anyone remeber le saux's v Brazil???

class goal

[Duty281]

Against Sweden in 2006 for Joe Cole's goal, Mysti.

As Clive said - Why not? Oh why not?

And er...pen miss? It was saved by Seaman's elbow!

Did he ever thank Uri Geller for that?

Bit before my time, lad! I wasn't even a year old.

That said, my earliest memory in life is Shearer scoring a penalty against Romania at Euro 2000.

[Guest]

Anyone remeber le saux's v Brazil???

class goal

Yeah. 1995. Helluva volley.

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