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Post by FootballLight Mon 02 Jun 2014, 8:37 pm

First topic message reminder :

This **should** be the main article for the Fifa World Cup 2014 competition that happens in 10 days time. Lets try and keep the debate simple yet reasonable about all of the build-up, the stadiums, the countries, the players, the qualifying, the winners and most importantly, the "bought" 2022 World Cup. Whistle

Enjoy! (And... lets try and make this World Cup as good as possible considering all of the poor build-up, tragic deaths and he outrageous violence that has been happening over recent months) Fingers Crossed

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Post by skyeman Thu 12 Jun 2014, 9:31 pm

1-1. Well taken, but should he be on the pitch.

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Post by Guest Thu 12 Jun 2014, 9:33 pm

Unbelievable. Should be off one minute and scores the next

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Post by skyeman Thu 12 Jun 2014, 9:41 pm

Bet the half time panel will say he was lucky to stay on.

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Post by whocares Thu 12 Jun 2014, 9:53 pm

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Hammersmith harrier wrote:I don't think that's a particularly strong Brazil team, I can definitely see an upset tonight, the Croatians look stronger in Midfield.

Are you looking at the same team?

Oscar, Neymar, Hulk & Fred up top? Frightening.

Pretty solid back line too.

I'd say it's a team full of over rated players, don't rate Hulk or Fred that highly while Neymar didn't impress for Barcelona, Oscar is a good player but nothing special. As for the back line well they can't defend it's that simple.

Couldn't agree more mate Laugh

I should have entered a smiley somewhere to show my sarcasm, apologies.  Only player I actually rate in that Brazil team is Marcelo. I actually have to ask, is that the Fred who played for Lyon during their Champions League days?

Yes that's the same Fred.

Basically you have 2/3 semi world class players and few good ones in this Brazil team. Compared to the ones from 70's, 80's and even 90's it is a bit substandart.

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Post by Scrumpy Thu 12 Jun 2014, 9:58 pm

It wasn't a red card. His arm was stiff not swinging.
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Post by Fernando Thu 12 Jun 2014, 9:58 pm

skyeman wrote:Bet the half time panel will say he was lucky to stay on.

Surprisingly they are not being biased and said it was a yellow  Shocked 

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:01 pm

I thought it was a yellow, I'd be very annoyed if an England player was sent off for that
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Post by Guest Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:01 pm

Its an average Brazil side. I know it & you know it. Hulk - terrible, Oscar is not a winger, Fred is just Fred, Gustavo better than Fernandinho.....no chance. Willian walks into this side, basically Scolari is pretty clueless. Alves being given the around by the OAP Olic  picard 

If Brazil win the WC, I will be amazed.

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Post by kingraf Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:02 pm

It's an odd foul, but the ref has a choice to make - you can't book a player for putting his hands up, that's only a foul. You can book him if you feel there's intent behind the arm (ie swinging arm, etc) - but if you as a ref feel there was a malice in that raised arm, surely there's only one card that can come out?
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Post by skyeman Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:19 pm

Has Neymar impressed any of you guys.  Early doors though.

Agree with others. This Brazil are way below previous teams style and class.

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Post by Fernando Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:23 pm

I like Neymar he's only going to get better though.

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Post by Lowlandbrit Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:24 pm

This doesn't seem to be the game the crowd was expecting.

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Post by Fernando Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:29 pm

That's some pathetic refereeing

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:29 pm

Shocking decision!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:29 pm

Bottled it absolutely bottled it
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Post by skyeman Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:29 pm

Lowlandbrit wrote:This doesn't seem to be the game the crowd was expecting.

I have seen more Brazillian atmosphere in away World Cups.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:29 pm

This referee has been awful, can see Brazil getting the rub of the green in every game they play, pathetic penalty award.

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Post by Fernando Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:30 pm

2-1 - Neymar Penalty

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Post by Guest Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:30 pm

Oh my days, never, ever a pen. Disgrace. Gift for a dire brazil

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:30 pm

Keeper should have done better

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Post by skyeman Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:31 pm

Soft penalty.

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Post by Ent Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:31 pm

Awful from the ref. home town decision if I ever saw one.

Very poor penalty, goal keeper should have caught that.

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Post by Fernando Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:32 pm

Who do we think John hates the most Fred,Hulk Or Giroud? Im guessing Fred

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Post by skyeman Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:34 pm

Spain v Holland tomorrow Very Happy 

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Post by Guest Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:35 pm

No, the Jap currently tops the list of most hated. Truly disgusting decision. Send him back to fu##### Tokyo, what a tos###!

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Post by whocares Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:36 pm

skyeman wrote:Spain v Holland tomorrow Very Happy 

Great more diving and foul play Wink

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:38 pm

I'm sick to death of this world cup already.

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Post by The Special Juan Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:39 pm

Hope PSG kept their receipt when they bought Luiz.
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Post by skyeman Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:41 pm

One of them games. Where i feel sorry for a team.

Come on Croatia, bag the equaliser.

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Post by Fernando Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:43 pm

Anyone want to explain where there is a foul in that?

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Post by skyeman Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:43 pm

Never a foul or out of play.

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Post by Ent Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:44 pm

Looked a fair goal that to me.

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Post by Guest Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:45 pm

This Jap needs shooting

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:45 pm

Certainly man of the match for Brazil is the referee
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Post by Guest Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:46 pm

Nice to see the world cup has got off to a quiet start with absolutely no controversy whatsoever

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Post by whocares Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:46 pm

Modric has more class than the entire Brazilian midfield. In the EPL that Croatian goal would have been valid. Challenge was ok, not their fault if the goalkeeper is bad.

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Post by skyeman Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:46 pm

I will not say that the ref is an illegitimate son of Blatter. Oops.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:47 pm

What's the point in watching a tournament where one team just won't be allowed to lose?

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Post by GSC Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:48 pm

A good tuneup for Brazil.

Hasn't been flawless, but often winners grow throughout a tournament
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Post by skyeman Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:49 pm

Well, Brazil may win. But it has been NO samba Brazil.

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Post by Ent Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:50 pm

Only the penalty was a really shocking decision.

I'm sure enough will be made about this that things will tighten up.

Better getting the home calls out of the way early on instead of in the knock outs.

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Post by Fernando Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:50 pm

3-1 Oscar

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Post by Ent Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:51 pm

For all the moaning about the ref, the Croatian keeper has had issues and could have kept it to 1-1.

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Post by The Special Juan Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:51 pm

People think one average Brazil performance suddenly means they are woeful? This is the same team who tore Spain a new one not one year ago.
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Post by Nakatomi Plaza Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:51 pm

Well deserved goal for Oscar, been the best player on the pitch

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Post by skyeman Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:53 pm

Well, i get my 3-1 prediction.

Not a fair reflection though.

Croatia could still go through though.

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Post by GSC Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:53 pm

This was always going to be more about doing the job. Massive pressure, out the way
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Post by westisbest Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:55 pm

Poor.

Hard luck Croatia.


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Post by Fernando Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:58 pm

I have to give the ref credit with his paint can and not being tempted to draw a schlong and balls at each Free Kick.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:58 pm

Oscar played well, which makes me reasonably happy. Without him Brazil would have struggled to get any sort of result, he's instrumental in all three goals. Then again, so was the Croatian keeper, should have done better with all three really.

Neymar didn't really impress me, seemed to spend most of the game sulking, with a bit of an "it's my ball" attitude I haven't sen since primary school, but he did score two goals, so you can't complain too much.

All in all, underwhelmed by Brazil, who needed a large slice of luck and dodgy refereeing to get the win. Most of them seemed uninterested in defending (Oscar aside) and simply let Modric have the freedom of CM. Poor.

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