How to solve a problem like Suarez?

Suarez for the third time in his career bit another footballer during a match.
The first for Ajax in 2010 when he bit a PSV player (Bakkal) on the shoulder and received a 7 game ban.
The second for Liverpool v Chelsea in 2013 on Ivanovic for which he received a 10 game ban.
And now on the grandest stage of all he's sunk his fangs into Chiellini.

What though should his punishment be?

A Ban. For the rest of the world cup, how ever long that will be.
Then I would ssay a 15 game domestic ban.
Maybe throw in a heavy fine and some sort of community service work.

since Suarez is a recidivist...6+ month ban , obligation to consult a psychologist then 1 year probation period. also a big fine and some work for a charity could be added.

Biting another person out of frustration is common .... for 2 years old toddlers who cannot communicate properly not adults!

that said a few questions can be asked..., is biting worst than say headbutting? how do you act against other acts of violence ? if FIFA wants to take a harder stance against such acts, should they also start to punish properly diving?

This is the thrid time...and its not like he's hid it...then tried to decieve by diving down himself.
 
A year to two year international ban and a hefty domestic ban regardless of what league he is in.
 
Time to make an example of players for this sort of behaviour.
 
Do FIFA and UEFA and the FA have the balls to do it???!!

Given the media coverage given to this over a man found guilty of hacking a dead girl's phone he should be snet to the gallows. Probably.
 
Seriously. The man needs help. Not that we didn't know already but he has real behavioural problems that need professional help. As for a ban - longer than 10 games most likely. Whether it'll be domestic or not I don't really know except there is no precedent for it and the FA won't be involved. It's down to FIFA.
 
And if anyone thinks of saying 'if I did this in my job blah de blah de blah' jump out a window first. 3rd floor or higher.

Can FIFA ban players in their domestic leagues?

No option for public stoning? Bleeding-heart liberals everywhere.

I suspect FIFA can't ban him from domestic football, nor should they. That said, I think he should certainly get an extensive international ban. Anything less than 10 games is lenient. Less than 5 would be a joke.

going by precedent: 7 games for the first offense, 10 for the second, you'd expect that to increase here.

Unlike beadles I would have thought that FIFA would have the power to ban him from domestic football, though not sure.

As for Suarez he definitely needs professional help, he's basically a nutcase...

liverbnz wrote:Given the media coverage given to this over a man found guilty of hacking a dead girl's phone he should be snet to the gallows. Probably.
 
Seriously. The man needs help. Not that we didn't know already but he has real behavioural problems that need professional help. As for a ban - longer than 10 games most likely. Whether it'll be domestic or not I don't really know except there is no precedent for it and the FA won't be involved. It's down to FIFA.
 
And if anyone thinks of saying 'if I did this in my job blah de blah de blah' jump out a window first. 3rd floor or higher.

They've all got away very light indeed especially that repulsive woman whos simply got away with it!

We all say Suarez needs help but i honestly think there is no helping him. He's done it three times now, after the last instance a 10 match ban and seeing a sports psycharatrist and he's gone and done the same thing again.

Is it not time that criminal charges came into it?

Even as a United fan I would find it unfair if Liverpool were punished

2 year ban for me.

This is not a 1st or 2nd offence, therefore he should be hung out to dry as a warning to others.

But imo FIFA will only give him a short ban as Uruguay football officials will pay them off.

2 years?

Seems harsh.

Why harsh?

He's done it 2 times previously, he blantantly cheats and dives constantly. His "save" in the world cup against Ghana in 2010 showed he doesnt care a jot.

Time to throw the book at him.

from the guardian:

"Fifa’s disciplinary code has the scope to suspend a player for a maximum of 24 matches – which, technically, can include club games but in practice tends to be only internationals."

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/24/luis-suarez-bite-uruguay-ban-world-cup

so it can't be two years (at least not from all football)...

GeordieFalcon wrote:Why harsh?

He's done it 2 times previously, he blantantly cheats and dives constantly. His "save" in the world cup against Ghana in 2010 showed he doesnt care a jot.

Time to throw the book at him.

The 'save' was something a lot of players would have done. The ban should be for the bite only, and two years is about 12-18 months to long. Also, I presume this  will be an international ban only?

Should be a permanent ban from all forms of football.

As I've said previously, he clearly has issues with his mental state and, because of that, he is a danger to himself and others on the pitch.

Whilst he remains a danger, he shouldn't be allowed to take the field of play.

Lifetime ban, as someone else said it's not the first time he's done it and there doesn't seem to be any changing him.

One would feel a bit more inclined to show sympathy if in the aftermath of what he has done he was capable of showing even a shred of remorse. However yet again last night his immediate reaction is to try and portray himself as the victim, or underplay the offence as part and parcel of the game that goes on all the time. I am sure once his PR people get hold of him the message will change and we will get some mealy mouthed false show of contrition. My only hope is this gets treated with the contempt it deserves.

If Suarez truly felt any shame for his actions, he would not have done them after the first time let alone the second time. In terms of a ban, whatever they want to throw at him works for me. The longer the better, brilliant player, but contemptible individual, suspect even the most fervent of Liverpool fans will struggle to justify this one, although I don’t doubt for a second they will try.

2 year ban from all football is not harsh for a repeat offender.

But I already know FIFA will back track once the bung of cash comes their way from the Uruguay FA.

Chiellini should press criminal charges and that'll sort him out. There's nothing I can say that's not already been said so as long as they through the book (i.e. every volume of the Encyclopedia Britannica) at him I'll be happy.

Another option is to pull the little Twits teeth out without pain relief! 

It could be done on a pay to view channel, I'd pay to watch it.

Scrumpy wrote:2 year ban for me.

This is not a 1st or 2nd offence, therefore he should be hung out to dry as a warning to others.

But imo FIFA will only give him a short ban as Uruguay football officials will pay them off.

The sad part is that I don't think others need a warning.

Others tend not to bite people.

sodhat wrote:

Scrumpy wrote:2 year ban for me.

This is not a 1st or 2nd offence, therefore he should be hung out to dry as a warning to others.

But imo FIFA will only give him a short ban as Uruguay football officials will pay them off.

The sad part is that I don't think others need a warning.

Others tend not to bite people.

Thats true.

In truth now though, it's beyond the pale for Suarez.

He can't control his actions and I'd give him an indefinite ban, on the proviso that he's allowed to return only after he's been cleared by psychiatrists and medical professionals. As much for the safety of others as for his own mental well-being.

It does make me sad in a small way (until I read Rowley's post about his lack of contrition, which is true) that he's clearly got problems.

Lifetime ban? I don't much care for the guy - he's a clear cheat - but that's way over the top for what he did. Biting is deeply unpleasant, but it's not like he's taken a chunk out of anyone.

Had you said a lifetime ban from all World Cup football, that would be fairer.

Rowley wrote:One would feel a bit more inclined to show sympathy if in the aftermath of what he has done he was capable of showing even a shred of remorse. However yet again last night his immediate reaction is to try and portray himself as the victim, or underplay the offence as part and parcel of the game that goes on all the time. I am sure once his PR people get hold of him the message will change and we will get some mealy mouthed false show of contrition. My only hope is this gets treated with the contempt it deserves.

If Suarez truly felt any shame for his actions, he would not have done them after the first time let alone the second time. In terms of a ban, whatever they want to throw at him works for me. The longer the better, brilliant player, but contemptible individual, suspect even the most fervent of Liverpool fans will struggle to justify this one, although I don’t doubt for a second they will try.

Aww Rowley and you were doing so well up until that point!!!!!!

Anyhoooo, as fervent a Liverpool fan I am, Suarez certainly deserves a lengthy ban from international football. Whilst I'm certain there will be calls for the ban to extend to domestic football, I doubt it will happen. Football tends to be run outside of any semblance of normal rules and regulations and a plethora of lawyers will undoubtedly say that whilst his actions were despicable, they weren't committed whilst wearing club colours. I'm not sure if Suarez played for Uruguay whilst serving his domestic bans or if he'd have been eligible to do so but the suggestion will be that the club should not be punished for breaches of conduct committed whilst on international duty. When Rooney received that straight red for lashing out at an opponent, it didn't have any knock on effect for his club so, I'm sure someone will cite that as an example

During last season Suarez's disciplinary record was excellent so I just wonder what's caused him to snap this time. Perhaps he needs a psychotherapist shadowing him for every match just to ensure his head is right (or as right as it will ever get) as I'm sure Liverpool made one available to him and perhaps it might need to be a permanent thing.

Against England, he added at least £20million to his resale value, yesterday he made himself about as attractive as Jo Brand in hot pants.

Scrumpy wrote:Another option is to pull the little Twits teeth out without pain relief! 

It could be done on a pay to view channel, I'd pay to watch it.

Using that rationale, Portugal's Pepe should be beheaded so he can't nut anyone again, should he?

I'd back that Dave, he is a real rectum that man.

I'd also make Sergio Busquets allergic to grass to stop him rolling around so much.

Think a lifetime World Cup ban should be in order.

I don't think he should be allowed to represent his country on the worlds bigggest stage.

Feral fruitcake knew he was in trouble as he didn't celebrate and rub it in like he did against England after the victory....

We can expect no better..He won't change..I blame the Parents..

My Son wouldn't do that in full view of the cameras.......If he did I'd be devastated...... If he didn't pick an angle which was harder to spot before sinking the teeth.

A 10 match domestic ban wouldn't be fair on Barcelona anyway....

DAVE667 wrote:Against England, he added at least £20million to his resale value, yesterday he made himself about as attractive as Jo Brand in hot pants.

I'll be interested to see if and how this does affect his value. Obviously he's shown that he's a disciplinary timebomb, which may put clubs off. However, if Real can employ Pepe, you'd think it would take a bit more than that to deter them. Equally, if Suarez gets a hefty international ban, then he's got far greater availability for his club.

On the one hand, I hope Liverpool get shot of him. Great player, but a bit of a scumbag. On the other, it would be so unjust if he were rewarded with a move to Real or Barca after this.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Feral fruitcake knew he was in trouble as he didn't celebrate and rub it in like he did against England after the victory....

We can expect no better..He won't change..I blame the Parents..

My Son wouldn't do that in full view of the cameras.......If he did I'd be devastated...... If he didn't pick an angle which was harder to spot before sinking the teeth.

A 10 match domestic ban wouldn't be fair on Barcelona anyway....

It would if he went to Real Madrid!!!!!!!!!!!

DAVE667 wrote:

Rowley wrote:One would feel a bit more inclined to show sympathy if in the aftermath of what he has done he was capable of showing even a shred of remorse. However yet again last night his immediate reaction is to try and portray himself as the victim, or underplay the offence as part and parcel of the game that goes on all the time. I am sure once his PR people get hold of him the message will change and we will get some mealy mouthed false show of contrition. My only hope is this gets treated with the contempt it deserves.

If Suarez truly felt any shame for his actions, he would not have done them after the first time let alone the second time. In terms of a ban, whatever they want to throw at him works for me. The longer the better, brilliant player, but contemptible individual, suspect even the most fervent of Liverpool fans will struggle to justify this one, although I don’t doubt for a second they will try.

Aww Rowley and you were doing so well up until that point!!!!!!

Anyhoooo, as fervent a Liverpool fan I am, Suarez certainly deserves a lengthy ban from international football. Whilst I'm certain there will be calls for the ban to extend to domestic football, I doubt it will happen. Football tends to be run outside of any semblance of normal rules and regulations and a plethora of lawyers will undoubtedly say that whilst his actions were despicable, they weren't committed whilst wearing club colours. I'm not sure if Suarez played for Uruguay whilst serving his domestic bans or if he'd have been eligible to do so but the suggestion will be that the club should not be punished for breaches of conduct committed whilst on international duty. When Rooney received that straight red for lashing out at an opponent, it didn't have any knock on effect for his club so, I'm sure someone will cite that as an example

During last season Suarez's disciplinary record was excellent so I just wonder what's caused him to snap this time. Perhaps he needs a psychotherapist shadowing him for every match just to ensure his head is right (or as right as it will ever get) as I'm sure Liverpool made one available to him and perhaps it might need to be a permanent thing.

Against England, he added at least £20million to his resale value, yesterday he made himself about as attractive as Jo Brand in hot pants.

 
You had to lower the tone  
Maybe he should spend time alone with Jo Brand in hot pants.
Say a year on a deserted island.
 
May think twice then.

I don't know, there is an awful lot of her he could bite. He might quite like that.

DAVE667 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Feral fruitcake knew he was in trouble as he didn't celebrate and rub it in like he did against England after the victory....

We can expect no better..He won't change..I blame the Parents..

My Son wouldn't do that in full view of the cameras.......If he did I'd be devastated...... If he didn't pick an angle which was harder to spot before sinking the teeth.

A 10 match domestic ban wouldn't be fair on Barcelona anyway....

It would if he went to Real Madrid!!!!!!!!!!!

I know athletes having illegal blood transfusions to improve performance can be complicated with all the testing.....

But Suarez really has to make more of an effort...

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Feral fruitcake knew he was in trouble as he didn't celebrate and rub it in like he did against England after the victory....

We can expect no better..He won't change..I blame the Parents..

My Son wouldn't do that in full view of the cameras.......If he did I'd be devastated...... If he didn't pick an angle which was harder to spot before sinking the teeth.

A 10 match domestic ban wouldn't be fair on Barcelona anyway....

It would if he went to Real Madrid!!!!!!!!!!!

I know athletes having illegal blood transfusions to improve performance can be complicated with all the testing.....

But Suarez really has to make more of an effort...

Are you suggesting Suarez was attempting to conduct an impromptu drug test by drawing a sample of his opponents blood to allow it to be tested during play?

DAVE667 wrote:

Scrumpy wrote:Another option is to pull the little Twits teeth out without pain relief! 

It could be done on a pay to view channel, I'd pay to watch it.

Using that rationale, Portugal's Pepe should be beheaded so he can't nut anyone again, should he?

That was a head butt! Lol.

But to be fair he was sent off and therefore punished, and imo there is a huge difference from someone lashing out in the heat of the moment and going through the thought process of running up to a fellow professional and biting them unprovoked!

Great footballer. Detestable on the pitch. Third strike? Out. Done. Forever. No more football at any level. Problem is, (even if it were an option) it wouldn't be likely to hit the multi, multi-millionaire that hard.

Scrumpy wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

Scrumpy wrote:Another option is to pull the little Twits teeth out without pain relief! 

It could be done on a pay to view channel, I'd pay to watch it.

Using that rationale, Portugal's Pepe should be beheaded so he can't nut anyone again, should he?

That was a head butt! Lol.

But to be fair he was sent off and therefore punished, and imo there is a huge difference from someone lashing out in the heat of the moment and going through the thought process of running up to a fellow professional and biting them unprovoked!

Think you'll find Pepe had plenty of time to stop and just tell Muller to get up (even call him a cheating c**t if he wanted) but he decided to walk over and deliberately push his his head into his face. Doesn't matter how hard it was, it wasn't a "heat of the moment" incident

Yes it was.

It was no more, or no less 'heat of the moment' than the Suarez incident.

Apart from the Suarez bite being unprovoked!   

Scrumpy wrote:Yes it was.

No, if Pepe and Muller were stood face to face, Muller spat in Pepe's face and Pepe headbutted him, that would be heat of the moment.

There was sufficient time for Pepe to stop dead in his tracks and walk away shaking his head in disgust but he didn't

All we need now is a one eyed Liverpool supporter to come out and say there was nothing wrong with what Suarez did or to try and deflect unwanted attention away from the little twit.

Scrumpy wrote:Apart from the Suarez bite being unprovoked!   

How did Muller "provoke" Pepe, by taking a soft tumble to the ground after minimal contact? B*st*rd!!!!!

DAVE667 wrote:

Scrumpy wrote:Apart from the Suarez bite being unprovoked!   

How did Muller "provoke" Pepe, by taking a soft tumble to the ground after minimal contact? B*st*rd!!!!!

Lol   

It keeps coming!

Scrumpy wrote:All we need now is a one eyed Liverpool supporter to come out and say there was nothing wrong with what Suarez did or to try and deflect unwanted attention away from the little twit.

At least it would make a welcome change from listening to idiots talking about how it's perfectly acceptable to headbutt another player if you're provoked

Scrumpy wrote:Apart from the Suarez bite being unprovoked!   

Pepe lost it, just like Suarez. Both players had time to think about their actions.

That wasn't a headbutt!

Scrumpy wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

Scrumpy wrote:Apart from the Suarez bite being unprovoked!   

How did Muller "provoke" Pepe, by taking a soft tumble to the ground after minimal contact? B*st*rd!!!!!

Lol   

It keeps coming!

What? Proof of your shortsightedness and foolishness?