Rio de Janiero - 2014 Fifa World Cup Thread

by Fernando Sat 12 Jul 2014, 10:32 pm

First topic message reminder :

I can live with diving but when going down on purpose injures a player it's going too far really. You're trying to con the ref and injure someone.

by Ent Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:25 pm

Well deserved!!!

Just need to hold on now!!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:26 pm

What a fantastic goal that is

by **Pal Joey** Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:26 pm

Klasse!!

by **Hero** Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:26 pm

See them goals all the time down Sportsform's park.

by Knowsit17 Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:28 pm

Wish they'd cut the habit of showing crying child supporters. It's bad enough getting your heart broken without having it shown on international tv. Such insensitivity!

by **Pal Joey** Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:28 pm

A 10 year-old could have scored that!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:29 pm

Hero wrote:See them goals all the time down Sportsform's park.

Fairly sure you'll see a kid do that in his back garden every five minutes actually

by kingraf Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:29 pm

Chubby Mario with the save!

by kingraf Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:33 pm

Ozil's covered 14km!!! Think all fitness doubts have been answered

by Lowlandbrit Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:36 pm

Argentina had 3 absolute sitters, couldn't even manage a shot on goal.

by Hammersmith harrier Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:37 pm

Schweinsteiger was immense in that game as was Boateng.

That game highlights why Messi will never surpass Maradona.

by kingraf Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:39 pm

Is this the best world cup winning German team ever?

by GSC Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:39 pm

Last 2 world cup finals have underlined the importance of taking your chances. Argentina miss 3 golden chances, Germany take their 1.

by Duty281 Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:40 pm

Only seen the score, so I'll just say well done Germany. clap

I said they were the best team in the world last year, glad they proved it!

by kingraf Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:41 pm

Boateng was magnificent. Schweinsteiger Motm, for me. An absolute colossal.

by Ent Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:41 pm

GSC wrote:Last 2 world cup finals have underlined the importance of taking your chances. Argentina miss 3 golden chances, Germany take their 1.

Howeses header? Kroos first half?

Right team won in the end, Argentina have been crap in every game.

by mystiroakey Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:42 pm

very good team.. deserved.

Argentina will feel gutted. But overall Germany played the best throughout the tourny.

by GSC Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:43 pm

Forgot the Howedes one granted.

Crap is stretching it Ent Laugh

by Guest Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:43 pm

Germans deserve it but I still don't think they are immense. Vs tight defence, they struggle to breakdown teams, like vs Algeria. Good team but nothing special. Argies missed di maria on the break tonight, Aguero never fit. Messi just isn't the same player, hamstring is a killer, just ask owen.

by Duty281 Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:44 pm

The first time a unified Germany have won the World Cup as well!

by GSC Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:45 pm

John wrote:Germans deserve it but I still don't think they are immense. Vs tight defence, they struggle to breakdown teams, like vs Algeria. Good team but nothing special. Argies missed di maria on the break tonight, Aguero never fit. Messi just isn't the same player, hamstring is a killer, just ask owen.

Yeah I tend to agree.

Interesting seeing the love in for Tiki Taka when Germany do it Wink

by kingraf Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:46 pm

AC/DC in the background.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:46 pm

Don't worry folks we'll get there one day

Greg Dyke and Danny Mills shall lead the way!!

by jbeadlesbigrighthand Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:47 pm

kingraf wrote:Boateng was magnificent. Schweinsteiger Motm, for me. An absolute colossal.

Spot on. So pleased for Schweinsteiger. Fantastic player and his career deserved this moment.

by GSC Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:47 pm

Germany were the best team, but the beauty of this tournament is there hasn't been a truly great team. Tension got the better of teams after the last 16 but head and shoulders above the dire 2010 edition.

by kingraf Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:48 pm

All teams struggle against well organised tight teams. The '70s Brazil squad squeaked past England, '02 Brazil team scored one past Turkey... it's hardly groundbreaking.

by Ent Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:52 pm

GSC wrote:Germany were the best team, but the beauty of this tournament is there hasn't been a truly great team. Tension got the better of teams after the last 16 but head and shoulders above the dire 2010 edition.

2010 had Spain which elevates it IMO.

Germany the only decent team at this tournament.

Rodriguez was fantastic to watch though, really lit up the tournament.

Answers on a postcard to what di michelis was doing for Germany's winner.

by **Hero** Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:53 pm

Draxler's done alright for himself on the Wag stakes.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:53 pm

Budweiser gave the man of the match to Gotze

I just despair

by kingraf Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:53 pm

Messi goldenball - I fu.cking knew it.

by GSC Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:54 pm

Same vein as Argentina tonight, Robben had 2 chances to finish off that game.

Decent is overly harsh, I tend to agree its been more open because of more mediocrity.

by **Hero** Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:54 pm

Schweinsteiger should have MOTM, after that Mascherano.

by kingraf Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:55 pm

Think this German team beats 2010 Spain.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:56 pm

Boateng or Hummels or Schwein or Masch. Think all 4 were brilliant tonight.

Best team won it, great moment for Gotze who had almost been forgotten. It's been emotional gents!

by kingraf Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:57 pm

Manuel Neuer is the shizz nizz

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:58 pm

Neuer is an incredible keeper. Navas and Howard, Ochoa too, all good but Neuer is the don.

Messi won player of the tournament? He carried a side to a final but, I dunno. No massive standout really.

by kingraf Sun 13 Jul 2014, 10:59 pm

Don't know about Hummels, Chris, Messi tore him to shreds every time they were alone together.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun 13 Jul 2014, 11:00 pm

Pogba young player of the tournament? Again, not sure on that one

by Ent Sun 13 Jul 2014, 11:00 pm

Did messi win golden ball?

Least deserved ever.

by Liam Sun 13 Jul 2014, 11:00 pm

How good was Boating tonight? tackled absolutely everything in his wake. motm for me, but like others, could have gone to Mascherano or Schweinstiger, although I thought he faded as the game went on.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun 13 Jul 2014, 11:01 pm

kingraf wrote:Don't know about Hummels, Chris, Messi tore him to shreds every time they were alone together.

A couple times, but I think as a defender you don't go home upset if Messi does you once or twice. For two defenders of their pace against the front line they faced today I thought they both did very well, but Hummels had to make less dramatic tackles because I think hes just a better, smarter defender than Boateng.

by sportform Sun 13 Jul 2014, 11:01 pm

Hero wrote:See them goals all the time down Sportform's park.

Great goal, good technique. No denying that just as Rodriguez's goal was. Still won't convince me that either was better than Van Persie's though. Controlling a header or volley first time is always harder that controlling it first on your chest.

Play volley football. Is it easier to control the ball first and then play it back than it is to play it back first time.

Anyway, as some people have already said, it's all about opinion.

Thought the final was a good game. Both had chances. Disappointing that we didn't have more goals.

Shame Germany don't get to keep the trophy for winning it three times. A new design, and possibly a worldwide competition to design it, would have been a good initiative for Fifa.

Roll on Russia.

by kingraf Sun 13 Jul 2014, 11:01 pm

Anyway, I scored a similar goal to Gotze's this weekend, and I was playing basketball!!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 13 Jul 2014, 11:01 pm

Adidas Golden Ball winner, star of adidas advertising campaigns worldwide and captain of a team that wears adidas kits...

by GSC Sun 13 Jul 2014, 11:03 pm

kingraf wrote:Think this German team beats 2010 Spain.

God no. Even this German midfield would struggle for a touch against that midfield

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sun 13 Jul 2014, 11:04 pm

I tell you one thing, Lahm is still head and shoulders above anyone as a full back. Play him in midfield if you want Pep but hes the best full back bar none.

I also lol when I remember Schweiny used to be considered a winger

by Hammersmith harrier Sun 13 Jul 2014, 11:05 pm

They've won it four times not three.

54, 74, 90 and 14.

by sportform Sun 13 Jul 2014, 11:06 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Neuer is an incredible keeper. Navas and Howard, Ochoa too, all good but Neuer is the don.

Messi won player of the tournament? He carried a side to a final but, I dunno. No massive standout really.

I said that earlier. No stand-out player. Could probably name half a dozen.

by Ent Sun 13 Jul 2014, 11:07 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
kingraf wrote:Don't know about Hummels, Chris, Messi tore him to shreds every time they were alone together.

A couple times, but I think as a defender you don't go home upset if Messi does you once or twice. For two defenders of their pace against the front line they faced today I thought they both did very well, but Hummels had to make less dramatic tackles because I think hes just a better, smarter defender than Boateng.

Allowed 0 shots on target.

Mascherano was awful tonight, should have been sent off and have the ball away over and over - some contrast to his semi final performance.

by kingraf Sun 13 Jul 2014, 11:07 pm

That Spanish team was not rich of goal... only crawled past Germany in 2008, & 2010, when the team was at the beginning of their cycle, and I'm not convinced their defence is much better... Think Spain's demise has had as much to do with their gameplan being figured out, as it has to do with any decline

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