Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread V

by Number-25 Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:13 pm

First topic message reminder :

Well played San Diego

That was a fine performance

Made Seattle look ordinary

by GSC Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:48 am

The NFL isn't looking for a cash grab, its looking for a stadium which has demonstrated it can fulfill all the needs of a NFL game and does it repeatedly, legally they're probably on pretty shaky ground reselling tickets anyway.

by kwinigolfer Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:23 pm

What good does it do the NYS economy exporting dollars to Michigan? Let alone consideration for the fans??
What do you think Detroit has that the 'Cuse doesn't? Except bankruptcy of course.

by GSC Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:45 pm

A NFL stadium and facilities

by Lowlandbrit Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:46 pm

GSC wrote:legally they're probably on pretty shaky ground reselling tickets anyway.

Had some issues offering refunds too: http://deadspin.com/bills-tell-fans-to-call-domestic-violence-hotline-for-t-1661650177

by GSC Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:59 pm

Lowlandbrit wrote:
GSC wrote:legally they're probably on pretty shaky ground reselling tickets anyway.
Had some issues offering refunds too: http://deadspin.com/bills-tell-fans-to-call-domestic-violence-hotline-for-t-1661650177

That said, nothing against Syracuse, the NFL just needs a safe bet

by crazy_dave23 Sat Nov 22, 2014 5:19 pm

crazy_dave23 wrote:More what i'm saying, is these records are just ridiculously huge... If he had played a full game (not 3/4) he could have been at say 550 yards rushing in a game. Its not a knock on Melvin Gordon, or the opponents he did it against, just that that much rushing is extreme.

There are teams loosing in CFB whilst racking up 700 yards of total offence with no turnovers.

The stats are just getting crazy

and in a week its been broken...

by Lowlandbrit Sat Nov 22, 2014 5:29 pm

crazy_dave23 wrote:
crazy_dave23 wrote:More what i'm saying, is these records are just ridiculously huge... If he had played a full game (not 3/4) he could have been at say 550 yards rushing in a game. Its not a knock on Melvin Gordon, or the opponents he did it against, just that that much rushing is extreme.
and in a week its been broken...

Saw that and thought of you, but decided to put it in the college thread. If you're feeling down about stat inflation, here's something to cheer you up:
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by crazy_dave23 Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:01 am

Haven't seen a 0-0 game before!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:17 pm

Jim Caldwell needs to develop some balls, good god he's conservative

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:31 pm

Olly wrote:Jim Caldwell needs to develop some balls, good god he's conservative

Down by 21, in New England territory, in the last quarter, 4th down, Jim Caldwell kicks a field goal

It doesn't even make it a two score game ffs

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:59 pm

Why do Jacksonville exist

by crazy_dave23 Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:08 pm

Honestly Atlanta... Not even a Cundiff Wide Right can save you...

by JDizzle Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:10 pm

Some absolutely stinky throws from Hoyer in there. Got it done in the end though I suppose...

by mikeygnfl Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:21 pm

JDizzle wrote:Some absolutely stinky throws from Hoyer in there. Got it done in the end though I suppose...

It's no wonder the AFC North are all on winning records when they get to play teams like the Falcons, Buccaneers, Titans and Jaguars.

The Patriots at the Packers next week should be a bit tasty. The Lions have been shown up in recent weeks. They have had one of the easiest schedules this year.

It will be interesting to see if the Cardinals can get a result in Seattle.

by Number-25 Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:29 pm

Redskins v 49ers is a tale of two dreadful offenses so far. Ugly game vomit

by Number-25 Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:45 pm

It has to be said that for all the negative chat about Robert Griffin this week, most of it from his own stupid Head Coach in fairness, the guy must be an absolute nervous wreck behind that car crash of an offensive line that we have. Yeah holds the ball too long but not all of those sacks are on him. On some of these plays, guys are just running untouched straight into him before he's barely able to set his feet. It's painful stuff to watch.

by GSC Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:52 pm

The Cardinals luck runs out

by GSC Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:55 pm

Its hard to establish an identity on offense when you cant run or pass. The 49ers still have time mind

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:20 pm

RG3 is awful

by Number-25 Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:25 pm

Maybe it's just Gruden's offense that is awful? All 3 QBs have been bad in it... don't let the media hype about McCoy in the Dallas game fool you... he really wasn't that good that night.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:41 pm

Its not well coached, but RG3 is awful. Looks like tebow out there

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:42 pm

Still most impressive offensive Poopie goes to Tampa bay, who managed to lose despite only giving up 108 yards on defence.

That my friends is very impressive

by Number-25 Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:46 pm

Oh yeah, no doubt he's been bad - he's now just 5 games away from being officially crowned as the biggest draft bust ever and I feel it for him. It's so painful to watch. It's not all on him though - the coaching and playcalling is just diabolical. I mean tonight Alfred Morris was bashing San Fran left, right and centre. It was a game that was crying out for play action passes and what was Gruden having a Griffin do. Traditional drop back passes and shotgun. It's just stupid. It's starting to look like Gruden wants him to fail.

by Number-25 Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:47 pm

Olly wrote:Still most impressive offensive Poopie goes to Tampa bay, who managed to lose despite only giving up 108 yards on defence.

That my friends is very impressive

That would make me feel better were it not for the fact that they blew us out last week vomit

by Number-25 Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:53 pm

BTW, if you thought Griffin looked bad tonight then I can only assume you didn't see him last week? That was an improvement tonight. Of the 5 sacks, I could only pin one on him. The other 4 were just guys running virtually untouched into the backfield.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:04 pm

Number-25 wrote:BTW, if you thought Griffin looked bad tonight then I can only assume you didn't see him last week? That was an improvement tonight. Of the 5 sacks, I could only pin one on him. The other 4 were just guys running virtually untouched into the backfield.

As much as I love american football, I couldn't bring myself to watch Washington versus Tampa bay.

by mikeygnfl Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:05 pm

Odell Beckham is just too good.

by twelve283 Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:07 pm

mikeygnfl wrote:Odell Beckham is just too good.

That was...impressive...

by JDizzle Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:23 pm

That was slightly ludicrous from Beckham.

by Number-25 Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:46 am

So we should all by now have seen the Beckham catch.... that was seriously fun

Take a bow son

by Lowlandbrit Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:53 am

by dummy_half Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:50 am

Number-25 wrote:So we should all by now have seen the Beckham catch.... that was seriously fun

Take a bow son

Superglue on the gloves? Seriously amazing that he could keep control of the ball thrown that hard one handed at that much of a stretch. Would have been ironic if he'd fallen out of bounds after such an effort (I know there was a pass interference flag anyway, but it wouldn't have been a TD)

by TM Moot Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:11 am

one query, don't the Bills also play in Toronto, couldn't they move the game there (or is it as bad snow-wise?)

by crazy_dave23 Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:07 pm

TM Moot wrote:one query, don't the Bills also play in Toronto, couldn't they move the game there (or is it as bad snow-wise?)

I believe the Rodgers Centre had a event clash, but I think they have stopped playing in Canada as of this year

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:31 pm

Number-25 wrote:So we should all by now have seen the Beckham catch.... that was seriously fun

Take a bow son

They showed him during warm ups just grabbing the thing with one hand too, appears the dude has ridiculous hands!

by Lowlandbrit Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:10 pm

Eric Berry is done for the season, might have lymphoma.

by kwinigolfer Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:15 pm

Justice being meted out in Detroit, the best possible answer to Goodell's nonsensical decision to send them to Michigan.
31-3 to the Billys with a few 3rd qtr minutes to go.
Could still reach the Play-Offs even with playing nine away games.

by kwinigolfer Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:58 pm

38 - 3.
Perfect.
Not worth much though unless they beat the Brownies on Sunday - every indication Ralph Wilson Stadium will be ready for the game. Snowmobiles not required.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:29 am

The jets are a complete embarrassment

by sodhat Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:00 am

Brees went 35 of 45, 420 yards, 3 touchdowns, and still lost.

Think that one might be on the defense...

by NYJ Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:53 am

Olly wrote:The jets are a complete embarrassment

Too true. Nothing to get excited about. Nothing.

by Number-25 Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:27 am

NYJ wrote:
Olly wrote:The jets are a complete embarrassment

Too true. Nothing to get excited about. Nothing.

As a Redskins fan, I share your pain NYJ.

by sodhat Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:28 am

At least you've both won more than one game.

The last time we were in the playoffs I hadn't even done my SATs.

by GSC Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:30 am

NYJ wrote:
Olly wrote:The jets are a complete embarrassment

Too true. Nothing to get excited about. Nothing.

Eh, Rex is leaving a good front 7 on defense.

Need to clean house in the front office though. This record is more on Idziks penny pinching

by kwinigolfer Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:44 am

GSC,
That's the failure of the franchise system, especially in NYC.
The Giants, historically, and the Jets know they'll get 70,000 punters turning up to their games whether they're competitive or not, where's the incentive to win?
American Prem owners finding out the same, the hard way; Henry & Werner especially.

How long has Ryan been HC? Five years at least and all they've done is go from pretty poor to bl00dy awful.
Go Bills!

by GSC Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:48 am

Pretty poor?

Not sure I'd classify 2 AFCCGs as poor. They've drafted fairly poorly, and Rex isn't head coach material mind

The incentive to win is the same as anywhere else. Winning is its own reward. Try telling Parcells theres no incentive to win.

That said Woody is definitely more concerned with making cash and being in the media. The Giants ownership is all about winning though.

by kwinigolfer Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:25 am

Yeah, Five wins between 'em so far this year. Stellar.

Parcells was good, but before he turned up the Giants were terrible for decades - but who cared?
Jets much the same - good in patches maybe, but precious little "character". You really have to be awful to only win two games.

by GSC Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:14 am

Teams being bad doesn't mean ownership doesn't want to win.

It means ownership is making bad decisions. The Raiders aren't perennial losers because Al Davis didn't care anymore

by NYJ Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:02 am

Jets aren't winning 2 games a season because they don't care and know fans will keep attending games. That's silly.

We are a terrible team because we have no franchise QB, poor to mediocre talent at the skill positions, consistently poor coaching on offense, a terrible secondary which has also been decimated by injuries and an entire defense that doesn't generate turnovers to give the lackluster offense an easier shot at scoring. Not to mention Percy Harvin bringing the ball out on every return leading to starting every drive on our own 8 yard line. Also the whole reason we traded away Darrelle Revis was to gain cap space which we failed to utilise and still haven't given Mo Wilkerson an extension yet with the abundance of space we have.

Set this thing on fire and start again by drafting a QB and WR duo at the top of the draft.

by sodhat Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:09 am

Anyone else think the Browns have had the best of Hoyer and they could possibly switch to J. Football?

Hoyer has been steady, but with Gordon back now they could be more explosive.

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