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Post by Number-25 Mon 15 Sep 2014, 12:13 am

First topic message reminder :

Well played San Diego

That was a fine performance

Made Seattle look ordinary

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Post by GSC Sat 22 Nov 2014, 1:48 pm

The NFL isn't looking for a cash grab, its looking for a stadium which has demonstrated it can fulfill all the needs of a NFL game and does it repeatedly, legally they're probably on pretty shaky ground reselling tickets anyway.
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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 22 Nov 2014, 5:23 pm

What good does it do the NYS economy exporting dollars to Michigan? Let alone consideration for the fans??
What do you think Detroit has that the 'Cuse doesn't? Except bankruptcy of course.

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Post by GSC Sat 22 Nov 2014, 5:45 pm

A NFL stadium and facilities
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Post by Lowlandbrit Sat 22 Nov 2014, 8:46 pm

GSC wrote:legally they're probably on pretty shaky ground reselling tickets anyway.
Had some issues offering refunds too: http://deadspin.com/bills-tell-fans-to-call-domestic-violence-hotline-for-t-1661650177

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Post by GSC Sat 22 Nov 2014, 8:59 pm

Lowlandbrit wrote:
GSC wrote:legally they're probably on pretty shaky ground reselling tickets anyway.
Had some issues offering refunds too: http://deadspin.com/bills-tell-fans-to-call-domestic-violence-hotline-for-t-1661650177
Laugh

That said, nothing against Syracuse, the NFL just needs a safe bet
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Post by crazy_dave23 Sat 22 Nov 2014, 10:19 pm

crazy_dave23 wrote:More what i'm saying, is these records are just ridiculously huge... If he had played a full game (not 3/4) he could have been at say 550 yards rushing in a game. Its not a knock on Melvin Gordon, or the opponents he did it against, just that that much rushing is extreme.

There are teams loosing in CFB whilst racking up 700 yards of total offence with no turnovers.

The stats are just getting crazy

and in a week its been broken...

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Post by Lowlandbrit Sat 22 Nov 2014, 10:29 pm

crazy_dave23 wrote:
crazy_dave23 wrote:More what i'm saying, is these records are just ridiculously huge... If he had played a full game (not 3/4) he could have been at say 550 yards rushing in a game. Its not a knock on Melvin Gordon, or the opponents he did it against, just that that much rushing is extreme.
and in a week its been broken...
Saw that and thought of you, but decided to put it in the college thread. If you're feeling down about stat inflation, here's something to cheer you up:
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Post by crazy_dave23 Sun 23 Nov 2014, 3:01 pm

Haven't seen a 0-0 game before!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 23 Nov 2014, 7:17 pm

Jim Caldwell needs to develop some balls, good god he's conservative
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 23 Nov 2014, 8:31 pm

Olly wrote:Jim Caldwell needs to develop some balls, good god he's conservative

Down by 21, in New England territory, in the last quarter, 4th down, Jim Caldwell kicks a field goal

It doesn't even make it a two score game ffs
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 23 Nov 2014, 8:59 pm

Why do Jacksonville exist
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Post by crazy_dave23 Sun 23 Nov 2014, 9:08 pm

Honestly Atlanta... Not even a Cundiff Wide Right can save you...

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Post by JDizzle Sun 23 Nov 2014, 9:10 pm

Some absolutely stinky throws from Hoyer in there. Got it done in the end though I suppose...

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Post by mikeygnfl Sun 23 Nov 2014, 9:21 pm

JDizzle wrote:Some absolutely stinky throws from Hoyer in there. Got it done in the end though I suppose...
It's no wonder the AFC North are all on winning records when they get to play teams like the Falcons, Buccaneers, Titans and Jaguars.

The Patriots at the Packers next week should be a bit tasty. The Lions have been shown up in recent weeks. They have had one of the easiest schedules this year.

It will be interesting to see if the Cardinals can get a result in Seattle.
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Post by Number-25 Sun 23 Nov 2014, 11:29 pm

Redskins v 49ers is a tale of two dreadful offenses so far. Ugly game vomit

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Post by Number-25 Sun 23 Nov 2014, 11:45 pm

It has to be said that for all the negative chat about Robert Griffin this week, most of it from his own stupid Head Coach in fairness, the guy must be an absolute nervous wreck behind that car crash of an offensive line that we have. Yeah holds the ball too long but not all of those sacks are on him. On some of these plays, guys are just running untouched straight into him before he's barely able to set his feet. It's painful stuff to watch.

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Post by GSC Sun 23 Nov 2014, 11:52 pm

The Cardinals luck runs out
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Post by GSC Sun 23 Nov 2014, 11:55 pm

Its hard to establish an identity on offense when you cant run or pass. The 49ers still have time mind
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 24 Nov 2014, 12:20 am

RG3 is awful
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Post by Number-25 Mon 24 Nov 2014, 12:25 am

Maybe it's just Gruden's offense that is awful? All 3 QBs have been bad in it... don't let the media hype about McCoy in the Dallas game fool you... he really wasn't that good that night.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 24 Nov 2014, 12:41 am

Its not well coached, but RG3 is awful. Looks like tebow out there
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 24 Nov 2014, 12:42 am

Still most impressive offensive Poopie goes to Tampa bay, who managed to lose despite only giving up 108 yards on defence.

That my friends is very impressive
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Post by Number-25 Mon 24 Nov 2014, 12:46 am

Oh yeah, no doubt he's been bad - he's now just 5 games away from being officially crowned as the biggest draft bust ever and I feel it for him. It's so painful to watch. It's not all on him though - the coaching and playcalling is just diabolical. I mean tonight Alfred Morris was bashing San Fran left, right and centre. It was a game that was crying out for play action passes and what was Gruden having a Griffin do. Traditional drop back passes and shotgun. It's just stupid. It's starting to look like Gruden wants him to fail.

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Post by Number-25 Mon 24 Nov 2014, 12:47 am

Olly wrote:Still most impressive offensive Poopie goes to Tampa bay, who managed to lose despite only giving up 108 yards on defence.

That my friends is very impressive

That would make me feel better were it not for the fact that they blew us out last week vomit vomit vomit

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Post by Number-25 Mon 24 Nov 2014, 12:53 am

BTW, if you thought Griffin looked bad tonight then I can only assume you didn't see him last week? That was an improvement tonight. Of the 5 sacks, I could only pin one on him. The other 4 were just guys running virtually untouched into the backfield.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 24 Nov 2014, 1:04 am

Number-25 wrote:BTW, if you thought Griffin looked bad tonight then I can only assume you didn't see him last week? That was an improvement tonight. Of the 5 sacks, I could only pin one on him. The other 4 were just guys running virtually untouched into the backfield.
As much as I love american football, I couldn't bring myself to watch Washington versus Tampa bay.
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Post by mikeygnfl Mon 24 Nov 2014, 2:05 am

Odell Beckham is just too good.
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Post by twelve283 Mon 24 Nov 2014, 2:07 am

mikeygnfl wrote:Odell Beckham is just too good.
That was...impressive...

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Post by JDizzle Mon 24 Nov 2014, 2:23 am

That was slightly ludicrous from Beckham.

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Post by Number-25 Mon 24 Nov 2014, 12:46 pm

So we should all by now have seen the Beckham catch.... that was seriously fun

Take a bow son

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Post by dummy_half Mon 24 Nov 2014, 2:50 pm

Number-25 wrote:So we should all by now have seen the Beckham catch.... that was seriously fun

Take a bow son

Superglue on the gloves? Seriously amazing that he could keep control of the ball thrown that hard one handed at that much of a stretch. Would have been ironic if he'd fallen out of bounds after such an effort (I know there was a pass interference flag anyway, but it wouldn't have been a TD)

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Post by TM Moot Mon 24 Nov 2014, 4:11 pm

one query, don't the Bills also play in Toronto, couldn't they move the game there (or is it as bad snow-wise?)

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Post by crazy_dave23 Mon 24 Nov 2014, 9:07 pm

TM Moot wrote:one query, don't the Bills also play in Toronto, couldn't they move the game there (or is it as bad snow-wise?)

I believe the Rodgers Centre had a event clash, but I think they have stopped playing in Canada as of this year

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 24 Nov 2014, 9:31 pm

Number-25 wrote:So we should all by now have seen the Beckham catch.... that was seriously fun

Take a bow son

They showed him during warm ups just grabbing the thing with one hand too, appears the dude has ridiculous hands!
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Post by Lowlandbrit Mon 24 Nov 2014, 11:10 pm

Eric Berry is done for the season, might have lymphoma.

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Post by kwinigolfer Tue 25 Nov 2014, 2:15 am

Justice being meted out in Detroit, the best possible answer to Goodell's nonsensical decision to send them to Michigan.
31-3 to the Billys with a few 3rd qtr minutes to go.
Could still reach the Play-Offs even with playing nine away games.

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Post by kwinigolfer Tue 25 Nov 2014, 2:58 am

38 - 3.
Perfect.
Not worth much though unless they beat the Brownies on Sunday - every indication Ralph Wilson Stadium will be ready for the game. Snowmobiles not required.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 25 Nov 2014, 5:29 am

The jets are a complete embarrassment
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Post by sodhat Tue 25 Nov 2014, 10:00 am

Brees went 35 of 45, 420 yards, 3 touchdowns, and still lost.

Think that one might be on the defense...

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Post by NYJ Tue 25 Nov 2014, 11:53 am

Olly wrote:The jets are a complete embarrassment

Too true. Nothing to get excited about. Nothing.
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Post by Number-25 Tue 25 Nov 2014, 12:27 pm

NYJ wrote:
Olly wrote:The jets are a complete embarrassment

Too true. Nothing to get excited about. Nothing.

As a Redskins fan, I share your pain NYJ.

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Post by sodhat Tue 25 Nov 2014, 1:28 pm

At least you've both won more than one game.

The last time we were in the playoffs I hadn't even done my SATs.

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Post by GSC Tue 25 Nov 2014, 1:30 pm

NYJ wrote:
Olly wrote:The jets are a complete embarrassment

Too true. Nothing to get excited about. Nothing.
Eh, Rex is leaving a good front 7 on defense.

Need to clean house in the front office though. This record is more on Idziks penny pinching
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Post by kwinigolfer Tue 25 Nov 2014, 1:44 pm

GSC,
That's the failure of the franchise system, especially in NYC.
The Giants, historically, and the Jets know they'll get 70,000 punters turning up to their games whether they're competitive or not, where's the incentive to win?
American Prem owners finding out the same, the hard way; Henry & Werner especially.

How long has Ryan been HC? Five years at least and all they've done is go from pretty poor to bl00dy awful.
Go Bills!

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Post by GSC Tue 25 Nov 2014, 1:48 pm

Pretty poor?

Not sure I'd classify 2 AFCCGs as poor. They've drafted fairly poorly, and Rex isn't head coach material mind

The incentive to win is the same as anywhere else. Winning is its own reward. Try telling Parcells theres no incentive to win.

That said Woody is definitely more concerned with making cash and being in the media. The Giants ownership is all about winning though.
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Post by kwinigolfer Tue 25 Nov 2014, 2:25 pm

Yeah, Five wins between 'em so far this year. Stellar.

Parcells was good, but before he turned up the Giants were terrible for decades - but who cared?
Jets much the same - good in patches maybe, but precious little "character". You really have to be awful to only win two games.

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Post by GSC Tue 25 Nov 2014, 3:14 pm

Teams being bad doesn't mean ownership doesn't want to win.

It means ownership is making bad decisions. The Raiders aren't perennial losers because Al Davis didn't care anymore
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Post by NYJ Tue 25 Nov 2014, 4:02 pm

Jets aren't winning 2 games a season because they don't care and know fans will keep attending games. That's silly.

We are a terrible team because we have no franchise QB, poor to mediocre talent at the skill positions, consistently poor coaching on offense, a terrible secondary which has also been decimated by injuries and an entire defense that doesn't generate turnovers to give the lackluster offense an easier shot at scoring. Not to mention Percy Harvin bringing the ball out on every return leading to starting every drive on our own 8 yard line. Also the whole reason we traded away Darrelle Revis was to gain cap space which we failed to utilise and still haven't given Mo Wilkerson an extension yet with the abundance of space we have.

Set this thing on fire and start again by drafting a QB and WR duo at the top of the draft.
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Post by sodhat Tue 25 Nov 2014, 4:09 pm

Anyone else think the Browns have had the best of Hoyer and they could possibly switch to J. Football?

Hoyer has been steady, but with Gordon back now they could be more explosive.

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