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Post by GPB Mon 02 Mar 2015, 5:19 pm

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Wow...Two weeks in a row, two players ranked #297 win on the PGATour.  Congratz to Paddy.  I got him at #82 in the Rankings.  

Paul Casey up to 45th in the Rankings and an invite to Cadillac this week.  James Hahn also backdoors an invite to Cadillac if he wants to leave his very pregnant wife.  No invite for Paddy though  Sad

I haven't got the projections for #297 calculated. Sorry.  You will have to wait for the OWGR.

But I do have the top 100.  The number in parenthesis is the Sagarin Golfweek ranking for comparison.

 
1Rory McIlroy (1)11.266*
2Bubba Watson (12)7.208*
3Henrik Stenson (7)7.046*
4Jason Day (4)6.755*
5Adam Scott (3)6.650*
6Jim Furyk (2)6.010*
7Sergio Garcia (6)6.000*
8Justin Rose (8)5.753*
9Jordan Spieth (9)5.573*
10Martin Kaymer (53)4.869*
11Rickie Fowler (18)4.809*
12Matt Kuchar (5)4.786*
13Jimmy Walker (14)4.767*
14Hideki Matsuyama (22)4.366*
15Patrick Reed (66)4.193*
16Dustin Johnson (15)4.165*
17Victor Dubuisson (64)3.847*
18Billy Horschel (70)3.824*
19Brooks Koepka (32)3.732*
20Phil Mickelson (28)3.662*
21Graeme McDowell (13)3.564*
22Chris Kirk (21)3.421*
23Jamie Donaldson (24)3.382*
24Zach Johnson (15)3.381*
25Bill Haas (11)3.219*
26Hunter Mahan (55)3.187*
27Lee Westwood (42)3.133*
28Ian Poulter (47)3.118*
29Ryan Palmer (17)3.109*
30Kevin Na (30)3.088*
31Charl Schwartzel (58)2.995*
32Keegan Bradley (19)2.949*
33Stephen Gallacher (98)2.946*
34Joost Luiten (43)2.909*
35Anirban Lahiri (74)2.888
36Ryan Moore (26)2.886*
37Brandt Snedeker (23)2.867*
38Thongchai Jaidee (36)2.765*
39Bernd Wiesberger (68)2.732
40Branden Grace (130)2.703
41J.B. Holmes (57)2.586*
42Shane Lowry (65)2.536*
43Louis Oosthuizen (60)2.526*
44Luke Donald (67)2.516*
45Paul Casey (29)2.478
46Jason Dufner (87)2.477*
47Gary Woodland (20)2.456*
48Webb Simpson (76)2.443*
49Danny Willett (16)2.443*
50Thomas Bjorn (106)2.428*
51Brendon Todd (41)2.396*
52Miguel A Jimenez (157)2.356*
53Marc Leishman (33)2.348*
54Marc Warren (50)2.337
55Alexander Levy (51)2.287
56Russell Henley (85)2.262*
57Harris English (86)2.258
58Andy Sullivan (163)2.249
59Tim Clark (192)2.220*
60Mikko Ilonen (154)2.220*
61Tommy Fleetwood (174)2.212
62John Senden (39)2.211*
63Graham Delaet (34)2.187
64Francesco Molinari (25)2.148
65Marcel Siem (73)2.125
66Steve Stricker (10)2.100*
67Kevin Streelman (149)2.042*
68Charley Hoffman (49)2.006*
69Ross Fisher (146)2.005
70Koumei Oda (104)2.005
71Ben Martin (147)1.955*
72Jonas Blixt (269)1.945*
73Daniel Berger (111)1.908
74Nick Watney (103)1.885
75Tiger Woods (~480)1.865*
76Matt Jones (124)1.841
77Russell Knox (56)1.821
78Hiroshi Iwata (116)1.814
79Pablo Larrazabal (161)1.773
80Ernie Els (95)1.766*
81Sangmoon Bae (123)1.755*
82Padraig Harrington (336)1.750*
83Robert Streb (45)1.732*
84Brian Harman (77)1.717*
85Kevin Stadler (83)1.696*
86George Coetzee (236)1.675
87Brendon de Jonge (59)1.662
88Angel Cabrera (113)1.642*
89Justin Thomas (37)1.637
90Gary Stal (112)1.634
91James Hahn (162)1.627*
92Matt Every (202)1.606
93Scott Stallings (284)1.582
94Shingo Katayama (152)1.581
95Scott Hend (366)1.569
96Thorbjorn Olesen (255)1.559
97Brendan Steele   (48)1.535
98Cameron Tringale (54)1.526
99Scott Piercy (100)1.488
100Shawn Stefani (44)1.486
101Steven Bowditch (256)1.478
102Seungyul Noh (84)1.456
103Geoff Ogilvy (206)1.444*
104Tomohiro Kondo (132)1.443
Players with an asterisk (*) players have already secured an invite to the Masters.

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Post by kwinigolfer Fri 27 Mar 2015, 2:47 pm

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That's great info GPB, Thanks.

But don't write George Coetzee off just yet.

And: It just goes to show what a chance the English patient missed last Sunday.

Really hoping Warren gets the result he needs.

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Post by GPB Fri 27 Mar 2015, 3:25 pm

Warren, Todd, Coetzee, and Hoffman have the best chance of passing Casey.

If three of them pass him, he is out of the Masters.

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Post by kwinigolfer Fri 27 Mar 2015, 5:16 pm

Arrivaderci Franny, whilst it looks like Siem is leaving Morocco.
Whilst Fish has confirmed the obvious.
Options for Augusta slowly reducing but Coetzee still going very strong.


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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 29 Mar 2015, 6:47 pm

Guesswork here, but am thinking that a Top 30 would lift Marc Warren past Dufner & Luke Donald and into the Top 50 - but perhaps Todd still has a say in that discussion?

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Post by GPB Sun 29 Mar 2015, 9:08 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:Guesswork here, but am thinking that a Top 30 would lift Marc Warren past Dufner & Luke Donald and into the Top 50 - but perhaps Todd still has a say in that discussion?

Attrition has already put Warren ahead of Dufner.

Warren needs the equivalent of 28th or better to pass Donald which is not looking likely.  Needs to finish the last two holes at -3 most likely.

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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 29 Mar 2015, 9:34 pm

E for Effort, GPB. Another good tournament for Warren.

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Post by GPB Sun 29 Mar 2015, 9:41 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:E for Effort, GPB. Another good tournament for Warren.

Not sure if a T30 something finish is a good tournament.

He needed to be two shots better to get into the Masters.

Every shot counts!!

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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 29 Mar 2015, 9:46 pm

You're a hard taskmaster GPB, looks pretty good to me . . . . .

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Post by GPB Sun 29 Mar 2015, 10:03 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:You're a hard taskmaster GPB, looks pretty good to me . . . . .

I think your standards change depending on what side of the pond the player is on.

IMO, T30 something does not qualify as a good tournament for someone trying to get a Masters invite.

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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 29 Mar 2015, 10:06 pm

Well, he was certainly in the top ten of those on the wrong side of the draw.

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Post by GPB Sun 29 Mar 2015, 10:50 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:Well, he was certainly in the top ten of those on the wrong side of the draw.

If you got a hammer and a nail, you can hang your hat on that.

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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 29 Mar 2015, 11:29 pm

Warren's got a decent record in the few US opportunities afforded by sponsors. In the past 24 months at least, his only US starts resulted in:
2013 PGA: 12th.
2014 PGA: 15th
2015 Cadillac: 17th

I'm sure that, given his continued progress, he'll continue that level of performance.

PS: As far as I can see, Warren finished T9 of those who played morning/afternoon, and we recorded early Thursday the split for Europeans vs marquee Americans.

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Post by GPB Sun 29 Mar 2015, 11:57 pm

Walker displaces Justin Rose in the top 10.  His highest ranking ever.

Spieth gets to a career best #4, passing Adam and J-Day.  Also his highest ranking ever.

No one gets an 11th hour invite to the Masters.  Unless a player wins Houston that has not qualified.

PD is reporting that Houston is in the 56/58 range.  and no one will catch Rory until after the Masters, even if #2 Henrik wins both tournaments.

Spieth could get to #2 next week, Garcia #4, Walker #5, Rose #7.

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Post by GPB Mon 30 Mar 2015, 1:12 am

Ramsay and Wattel crash the Top 100 to 77th and 94th respectively.

Woods is down to 104th in the OWGR.  Probably falls another 10 spots this coming week.

Marc Warren is the equivalent of 0.6 points  (gross) from a Masters invite.

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Post by Bob_the_Job Mon 30 Mar 2015, 9:25 am

GPB wrote:Walker displaces Justin Rose in the top 10.  His highest ranking ever.

Spieth gets to a career best #4, passing Adam and J-Day.  Also his highest ranking ever.

No one gets an 11th hour invite to the Masters.  Unless a player wins Houston that has not qualified.

PD is reporting that Houston is in the 56/58 range.  and no one will catch Rory until after the Masters, even if #2 Henrik wins both tournaments.

Spieth could get to #2 next week, Garcia #4, Walker #5, Rose #7.

If Spieth got to number 2 then that's got to be the lowest aggregate age for the top 2 ever.
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Post by GPB Mon 30 Mar 2015, 3:14 pm

Bob_the_Job wrote:If Spieth got to number 2 then that's got to be the lowest aggregate age for the top 2 ever.


Indeed, probably the lowest age aggregate happened in 1998, when Tiger was 22 and Duval was 26

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Post by kwinigolfer Wed 01 Apr 2015, 8:41 pm

54 owgr points to the winner of the Shell game.

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Post by McLaren Wed 01 Apr 2015, 9:10 pm

Anyone know what happened to shells wonderful world of golf?

Who hasn't watched the pine valley match several times?
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Post by GPB Thu 02 Apr 2015, 1:25 am

Unfortunately I never have seen the Pine Valley match.  That was Hogan v Snead, Correct?

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Post by McLaren Thu 02 Apr 2015, 11:24 am

GPB

Littler v Nelson

Part 1 has been deleted but here is the rest of it on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNS6E9-NQPE&list=PL53D11983FE5512A6
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Post by super_realist Thu 02 Apr 2015, 11:35 am

Surprised you watch something sponsored by Shell Mac, given your newly found green affiliations.

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Post by McLaren Thu 02 Apr 2015, 12:07 pm

Super

I have voted green for a while now, but was very disappointed how big they went in for independence.
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Post by super_realist Thu 02 Apr 2015, 12:36 pm

You vote Green? That's a wasted vote.

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Post by McLaren Thu 02 Apr 2015, 12:53 pm

Super

What worthwhile vote do you cast?
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Post by super_realist Thu 02 Apr 2015, 1:00 pm

I'd have thought someone like you who asserts to be politically astute would realise the policies of the green party can't be financed, not to mention some are just hysterically stupid, which is fine as they won't get in, but silly to have policies which are unattainable and even more silly to vote for them

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Post by McLaren Thu 02 Apr 2015, 1:06 pm

Ok, so you don't vote green. But who do you vote for?
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Post by super_realist Thu 02 Apr 2015, 1:08 pm

I haven't decided yet Mac, but that's irrelevant as we were discussing the hilarity of a green vote.

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Post by McLaren Thu 02 Apr 2015, 1:12 pm

I would like to know who you have voted for in the past?


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Post by super_realist Thu 02 Apr 2015, 1:14 pm

Mostly Lib Dem due to the constituency in which I lived. Don't think I would now though.

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Post by McLaren Thu 02 Apr 2015, 1:20 pm

Wow, the almost tea partyesque right winger actually votes lib dem. So you are actually a "yoghurt knitting" liberal like me? Hug

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Post by super_realist Thu 02 Apr 2015, 1:23 pm

I've no idea why you think I'm a right winger Mac, most parties have something decent about their policies and a lot of rubbish ones. I couldn't affiliate to any one of them in particular, but sometimes you have to vote out of apathy for the others, or tactically. This time around it will be whatever keeps the SNP out.

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Post by McLaren Thu 02 Apr 2015, 1:36 pm

So you will be voting for labour this year?
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Post by super_realist Thu 02 Apr 2015, 1:39 pm

Haven't checked out the dynamic of my constituency, but I may have to.

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Post by McLaren Thu 02 Apr 2015, 1:48 pm

Super

I assume you are right wing as over the years you have taken right wing positons on the following

the economy
welfare
taxation
womens rights
LGBT issues
justice

And probably more. I would be interested to hear what area's of policy you consider yourself to hold a more socialist position?
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Post by super_realist Thu 02 Apr 2015, 1:51 pm

When have I ever mentioned anything about Women's Rights or LGBT?


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Post by LadyPutt Thu 02 Apr 2015, 2:35 pm

I think this thread's been hijacked enough, don't you?
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Post by super_realist Thu 02 Apr 2015, 2:37 pm

It's pretty dead anyway Ladyputt.

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Post by Davie Thu 02 Apr 2015, 7:43 pm

I still don't know who Sagarin is :P

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Post by McLaren Thu 02 Apr 2015, 8:01 pm

Davie wrote:I still don't know who Sagarin is :P

Whoever he is he thinks Furyk is currently the words best player. Oops.

http://rankings.golfweek.com/rankings/default.asp?T=world

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Post by GPB Fri 03 Apr 2015, 11:34 pm

Odd circumstances:

Lefty should get back inside the top 15 should he win this week from #21.

Tiger should get inside the top 20 should he win next week, and he will be drop to at least #110 this week.

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Post by sirbenson Sun 05 Apr 2015, 12:55 pm

Has there ever been a case where a player has been in the top 50 going into Masters week but didn't qualify!?


Wasn't Rose in the top 50 once and didn't qualify for the US Open? Or am I totally wrong here lol

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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 05 Apr 2015, 1:06 pm

Think you're totally right - they changed their cut-off rule as a result and opened the exemption to Top 60!

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Post by GPB Sun 05 Apr 2015, 5:28 pm

sirbenson wrote:Has there ever been a case where a player has been in the top 50 going into Masters week but didn't qualify!?


Its probably going to happen this year.  Marc Warren is projected at #49 as of this morning.  Moving ahead of Willett and Donald.

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Post by sirbenson Sun 05 Apr 2015, 11:57 pm

Yeah, just saw that from VC 606 on twitter! That's a shame tbh

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Post by GPB Mon 06 Apr 2015, 12:27 am

sirbenson wrote:Yeah, just saw that from VC 606 on twitter! That's a shame tbh
 
Yep, he ended up 50th this week.  I just posted a new OWGR thread for April.

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Post by sirbenson Mon 06 Apr 2015, 12:54 am

GPB wrote:
sirbenson wrote:Yeah, just saw that from VC 606 on twitter! That's a shame tbh
 
Yep, he ended up 50th this week.  I just posted a new OWGR thread for April.

I saw fantastic work!!!

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