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Amir Khan vs Adrien Broner

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Post by mobilemaster8 Wed 01 Apr 2015, 4:29 pm

Current reports suggest this is a done deal for May? Broner has since tweeted saying in talks and a that a fight could be round the corner.

On the other hand he could be playing an April fools so who knows but if the fight does occur who wins?

I'm going Khan via UD

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Post by Guest Wed 01 Apr 2015, 4:30 pm

I'm going "Society loses as their egos remain unchecked and they both remain unslapped by their Mums for being tw*ts"

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Post by Dipper Brown Wed 01 Apr 2015, 4:31 pm

Fair bet, Dave. I'll go Khan points.

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Post by .aveyard2.0 Wed 01 Apr 2015, 4:40 pm

Khan is better than broner is every dept apart from the obvious. That being said I could see Khan getting a late stoppage, certainly a points win if not. Don't see broner catching him, and when does Khan get out boxed?
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Post by Dipper Brown Wed 01 Apr 2015, 4:48 pm

If Khan gets ahead early and Broner loses heart it could be a procession. Having said that after getting decked early against Maidana, AB showed guts to get back into it. Not a gimme for Khan but I'm backing him for the win.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 01 Apr 2015, 4:51 pm

Intriguing fight and a crossroads fight too...........

Both have much to lose here...........

Broner can forget the line Maidana was a blip and any aspirations to greatness can be forgotten....

Khan can rule out Manny/Floyd and being considered one of the top fighters around.....Though Brook would still be feasible...

Khan points............

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Post by Guest Wed 01 Apr 2015, 4:55 pm

Could be another Calzaghe/Lacy type beating

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed 01 Apr 2015, 4:56 pm

Depends on how much of a hype job Broner really is/was......

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Post by Guest Wed 01 Apr 2015, 4:58 pm

That's why I said "could"

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 01 Apr 2015, 4:59 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:Depends on how much of a hype job Broner really is/was......

Yep I'm sure If khan wins he will be a hype job....

Like Alvarez... Whistle


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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed 01 Apr 2015, 5:06 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Depends on how much of a hype job Broner really is/was......

Yep I'm sure If khan wins he will be a hype job....

Like Alvarez... Whistle

Possibly, if I ever had actually said Alvarez was a hype job......

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Post by Rowley Wed 01 Apr 2015, 5:17 pm

Got to fancy Khan in this one, Amir's major weaknesses are pressure and heavy hitters. Broner brings neither of these to the table, think he will outspeed Broner and even if he does have any of his momentary lapses in concentration not sure Broner has enough of a dig at welter to exploit them.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Wed 01 Apr 2015, 6:16 pm

Watch Broner-Malignaggi, is there much more to say

Broner got outworked by malignaggi modt of the night but because paulie is feather fisted broner landed the flashier shots. Khan is bigger, stronger, quicker, fitter and just better than paulie in every department except the chin department.

Can broner ice him in one punch, at 147 or even 140 he hasnt shown that he has that kind of power although he will have enough to gain khans respect i feel

Easy win for khan though, broner is tailor made for khan. One sided beat down in favour of khan, broner just isnt a welterweight

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed 01 Apr 2015, 6:27 pm

Broner couldn't drop Maidana, from memory, whose chin is nothing to right home about. So don't think he has the kind of power or timing of a Danny Garcia in order to trouble Khan.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Wed 01 Apr 2015, 7:04 pm

.aveyard2.0 wrote:Khan is better than broner is every dept apart from the obvious. That being said I could see Khan getting a late stoppage, certainly a points win if not. Don't see broner catching him, and when does Khan get out boxed?

Time to correct this error ridden statement.

You ask........

''When does Khan get outboxed''

I say Peterson and Garcia. Peterson employed pressure tactics of which Khan had no effect. Garcia timed Khan over 2 rounds and then eliminated him in the 3rd.

You say.......

''Khan is better then Broner in every dept''

Broner has a better boxing brain then Khan. His comeback against Maidana after being punched/shoved to the floor was real class. He left Maidana with no where to go tactic wise and took the latter part of the fight from Maidana.

Should this fight go ahead I fear Khan will end up regretting brushing Brook aside as Broner WILL knock him out.

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Post by Dipper Brown Wed 01 Apr 2015, 7:07 pm

Jesus wept.

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Post by kingraf Wed 01 Apr 2015, 7:10 pm

To be fair, if boxing is, as Mayweather likes to tell us, Hit and don't get hit.... being hit so hard you can't continue is the definition of getting outboxed
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Post by Derbymanc Wed 01 Apr 2015, 7:22 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
.aveyard2.0 wrote:Khan is better than broner is every dept apart from the obvious. That being said I could see Khan getting a late stoppage, certainly a points win if not. Don't see broner catching him, and when does Khan get out boxed?

Time to correct this error ridden statement.

You ask........

''When does Khan get outboxed''

I say Peterson and Garcia. Peterson employed pressure tactics of which Khan had no effect. Garcia timed Khan over 2 rounds and then eliminated him in the 3rd.

You say.......

''Khan is better then Broner in every dept''

Broner has a better boxing brain then Khan. His comeback against Maidana after being punched/shoved to the floor was real class. He left Maidana with no where to go tactic wise and took the latter part of the fight from Maidana.

Should this fight go ahead I fear Khan will end up regretting brushing Brook aside as Broner WILL knock him out.

If Peterson had been so effective it wouldn't have been a contentious decision, If you think Garcia outboxed him then you were obviously watching a completely different fight from the whole world (Probably the one where Pac got Ko'd by a jab Wink) Take nothing away from Garcia though as that was his only hope and he hit it.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Wed 01 Apr 2015, 7:36 pm

Dipper Brown wrote:Jesus wept.

He did weep and is still weeping at so called boxing fans lack of boxing knowledge.

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Post by Derbymanc Wed 01 Apr 2015, 7:44 pm

At least you acknowledge you have lack of boxing knowledge 1/2, it's a start

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 01 Apr 2015, 8:45 pm

Certain posters opinions are so anti certain fighters it's pointless reading them......Haz/Strongy on Floyd and Coxy and Onetwo with Khan...

Still at least Coxy and Onetwo aren't editing articles about Khan yet...

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Post by Marco_Marky - Stuffington Wed 01 Apr 2015, 11:15 pm

I think we know the real reason that Khan is hated by some.

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Post by ShahenshahG Wed 01 Apr 2015, 11:51 pm

Yup. He supports ukip

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Thu 02 Apr 2015, 7:37 am

So Khan is fighting an inactive counter puncher that hasn't carried his power from superfeather/lightweight  picard 

Smoke and mirrors.

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:You say.......

''Khan is better then Broner in every dept''

Broner has a better boxing brain then Khan. His comeback against Maidana after being punched/shoved to the floor was real class. He left Maidana with no where to go tactic wise and took the latter part of the fight from Maidana.

Should this fight go ahead I fear Khan will end up regretting brushing Brook aside as Broner WILL knock him out.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 02 Apr 2015, 8:28 am

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:So Khan is fighting an inactive counter puncher that hasn't carried his power from superfeather/lightweight  picard 

Smoke and mirrors.

TRUSSMAN wrote:You say.......

''Khan is better then Broner in every dept''

Broner has a better boxing brain then Khan. His comeback against Maidana after being punched/shoved to the floor was real class. He left Maidana with no where to go tactic wise and took the latter part of the fight from Maidana.

Should this fight go ahead I fear Khan will end up regretting brushing Brook aside as Broner WILL knock him out.

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Don't put my name to a post I didn't write...

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Thu 02 Apr 2015, 8:35 am

So you never said that that Broner would knock cant out nor typed the above post chin

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Thu 02 Apr 2015, 8:36 am

TRUSSMAN...............I apologise.

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Post by jimdig Thu 02 Apr 2015, 8:41 am

If Khan can keep his chin to himself for 12 rounds he should win fairly comfortable. Broner hasn't got the feet to pressure Khan and so the way I see it is completely dependant on the counter. Khans foot speed is key to a wide UD. Would broner come back up to 147?

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Thu 02 Apr 2015, 8:42 am

jimdig wrote:If Khan can keep his chin to himself for 12 rounds he should win fairly comfortable. Broner hasn't got the feet to pressure Khan and so the way I see it is completely dependant on the counter. Khans foot speed is key to a wide UD. Would broner come back up to 147?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 02 Apr 2015, 8:43 am

Apology accepted..

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 02 Apr 2015, 9:31 am

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
.aveyard2.0 wrote:Khan is better than broner is every dept apart from the obvious. That being said I could see Khan getting a late stoppage, certainly a points win if not. Don't see broner catching him, and when does Khan get out boxed?

Time to correct this error ridden statement.

You ask........

''When does Khan get outboxed''

I say Peterson and Garcia. Peterson employed pressure tactics of which Khan had no effect. Garcia timed Khan over 2 rounds and then eliminated him in the 3rd.

You say.......

''Khan is better then Broner in every dept''

Broner has a better boxing brain then Khan. His comeback against Maidana after being punched/shoved to the floor was real class. He left Maidana with no where to go tactic wise and took the latter part of the fight from Maidana.

Should this fight go ahead I fear Khan will end up regretting brushing Brook aside as Broner WILL knock him out.

Day by day you manage to make a greater t!t of yourself.

What happened? You never managed to be THIS bad?!

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Thu 02 Apr 2015, 9:51 am

Just because I am not a fan of Khan does not mean I have a hateful agenda against him.

He wants to take a short cut to achieve the success of Money/Pac but those guys have proven their worth. Floyd has fought and beat numerous world champs and remained unbeaten, Pac has fought many ex world champs and has maintained his elite fighter status.

You can't look at Khans record to date and say the same.

but I don't hate the guy just feel he is trying to manipulate the sport to his own ends.

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Post by Dipper Brown Thu 02 Apr 2015, 9:53 am

According to 1-2's famous 'Khan struggles with black fighters theory' Broner already has the pre-requisite skin tone to make this an easy night.

The fact that Khan's biggest struggles have come against high work rate fighters and Broner is anything but is immaterial.

Keep it up 1-2, I always feel like you're on the cusp of another one of these quotes.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 02 Apr 2015, 9:55 am

Marco_Marky - Stuffington wrote:I think we know the real reason that Khan is hated by some.

AZANIA!! You're back!!! Get yourself over to Off Topic/N&CA, it's been boring without you....

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Post by Coxy001 Thu 02 Apr 2015, 10:21 am

ShahenshahG wrote:Yup. He supports ukip

Actually a Tory supporter. You're probably a socialist hater of those who aren't scrounging off the system so support labour.

But moving on!

This fight pretty much explains whether Broner was just a pure hype job and is a blown up LW who needs to go back down there. I'm not at all convinced he's effective above 135 though, so am expecting Khan to deal with him handily. Wish he'd fight a decent ranked WW like Bradley/Thurman/Brook/JMM or fight a LWW like Garcia/Matthysee, fight won't tell us much as he's cherry picked another pillow puncher.


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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Thu 02 Apr 2015, 10:23 am

Dipper Brown wrote:According to 1-2's famous 'Khan struggles with black fighters theory' Broner already has the pre-requisite skin tone to make this an easy night.

The fact that Khan's biggest struggles have come against high work rate fighters and Broner is anything but is immaterial.

Keep it up 1-2, I always feel like you're on the cusp of another one of these quotes.

We interpret life differently.

Remember Dipper ''Never take you're eyes off you're opponent, even when you bow''

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Post by Derbymanc Thu 02 Apr 2015, 10:24 am

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
Dipper Brown wrote:According to 1-2's famous 'Khan struggles with black fighters theory' Broner already has the pre-requisite skin tone to make this an easy night.

The fact that Khan's biggest struggles have come against high work rate fighters and Broner is anything but is immaterial.

Keep it up 1-2, I always feel like you're on the cusp of another one of these quotes.

We interpret life differently.

Remember Dipper ''Never take you're eyes off you're opponent, even when you bow''

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 02 Apr 2015, 11:04 am

Derbymanc wrote:
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
Dipper Brown wrote:According to 1-2's famous 'Khan struggles with black fighters theory' Broner already has the pre-requisite skin tone to make this an easy night.

The fact that Khan's biggest struggles have come against high work rate fighters and Broner is anything but is immaterial.

Keep it up 1-2, I always feel like you're on the cusp of another one of these quotes.

We interpret life differently.

Remember Dipper ''Never take you're eyes off you're opponent, even when you bow''

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Just be thankful he isn't talking about 'lizard people'......

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Thu 02 Apr 2015, 11:15 am

Coxy001 wrote:
ShahenshahG wrote:Yup. He supports ukip

Actually a Tory supporter. You're probably a socialist hater of those who aren't scrounging off the system so support labour.

You sum up everything that is wrong with a Tory's Rolling Eyes

Bet you played cricket at some sort of sh|t level aswell........ Laugh

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Post by ShahenshahG Thu 02 Apr 2015, 11:41 am

Coxy001 wrote:
ShahenshahG wrote:Yup. He supports ukip

Actually a Tory supporter. You're probably a socialist hater of those who aren't scrounging off the system so support labour.

But moving on!

This fight pretty much explains whether Broner was just a pure hype job and is a blown up LW who needs to go back down there. I'm not at all convinced he's effective above 135 though, so am expecting Khan to deal with him handily. Wish he'd fight a decent ranked WW like Bradley/Thurman/Brook/JMM or fight a LWW like Garcia/Matthysee, fight won't tell us much as he's cherry picked another pillow puncher.


..I was talking about Khan you silly sod. And i could never really match you for spite coxy and the biggest scroungers in this country are the mp's so I dont really define myself by which party I'll vote for. But then again I've no need to reinvent myself as the renaissance man to impress anonymous users on an internet forum so I guess we're poles apart.

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Post by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake Thu 02 Apr 2015, 1:17 pm

This is a good fight between two absolute douchebags.

Both are unproven at WW for me, so this fight makes perfect sense.

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Post by Coxy001 Thu 02 Apr 2015, 1:24 pm

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
Coxy001 wrote:
ShahenshahG wrote:Yup. He supports ukip

Actually a Tory supporter. You're probably a socialist hater of those who aren't scrounging off the system so support labour.

You sum up everything that is wrong with a Tory's Rolling Eyes

Bet you played cricket at some sort of sh|t level aswell........ Laugh

Hit a nerve with the benefit scrounging have I soldier? Not sure what I've ever said to you, as such you taking an interest in me is just plain weird.

But back on topic

Will it be at the full WW limit? Can't imagine Broner would want to give away a shed load of weight and have to strain himself to get up there, but can't imagine Khan giving way either. Argh, what do I care - borderline pointless fight for Khan. Loses it and it's spirito de punto for his career.


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Post by 88Chris05 Thu 02 Apr 2015, 1:40 pm

Not a bad opponent but not enough to absolve Khan from being so cool / indifferent to the Brook fight (as I said the other day, I felt only Thurman, Bradley or Marquez could really do that), and at the same time not enough to get people thinking that he simply must be the next guy to face whoever wins on May 2.

Khan's form goes in and out of various peaks and troughs and as such any fight involving him and any fighter ranked inside the division's top dozen or so (if it's an extremely strong division, which Welter is right now) is never a totally forgone conclusion. But his recent form has been very good, whereas Broner's hasn't. Broner's one of the few guys with hand speed at least comparable to Khan's, but he's not mobile and isn't as busy or well-conditioned as Khan. His punch power as a Welter is questionable, albeit as history shows that doesn't necessarily disqualify you from being able to shake Khan up a bit.

Can see Khan running out a comfortable points winner as Broner's lack of foot speed and reliance on pulling back at the waist and trying to shoulder punches works well against singles, but isn't so effective against combinations which Khan is excellent at reeling off. Khan's got recent form and confidence going for him here and I think those things combined will be enough. Puncher's chance only for Broner unless he switches things up.
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Post by DuransHorse Thu 02 Apr 2015, 1:44 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
Derbymanc wrote:
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
Dipper Brown wrote:According to 1-2's famous 'Khan struggles with black fighters theory' Broner already has the pre-requisite skin tone to make this an easy night.

The fact that Khan's biggest struggles have come against high work rate fighters and Broner is anything but is immaterial.

Keep it up 1-2, I always feel like you're on the cusp of another one of these quotes.

We interpret life differently.

Remember Dipper ''Never take you're eyes off you're opponent, even when you bow''

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Just be thankful he isn't talking about 'lizard people'......

Shssss! Rule 1 of lizard people club, you don’t talk about the Lizard people club.

I’m struggling to see why Broner would want or take this fight? If I were him I would see this as a high risk fight and a likely loss. Without KO power he will be in with a guy that holds many advantages so I would be very impressed and shocked if he won. For me, this is a pretty clever fight for Khan as he’s a good name and decent money fight that he will likely win. For Broner it’s a poorly calculated risk that could really spell the end of his elite profile… which I think he’s just about hanging on to.

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Post by Coxy001 Thu 02 Apr 2015, 1:51 pm

Thing is Chris, not one person mentioned Broner as a viable opponent. Certainly continues the trend of not exactly having dynamite for fists and having warrior/all out warfare inducing monster mentality that Khan struggles with.

Alas, and being fair, Khan's not alone with padding up a record with guys suited to him. Won't be the last either.

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Post by Pedro147 Thu 02 Apr 2015, 2:17 pm

Coxy001 wrote:Thing is Chris, not one person mentioned Broner as a viable opponent. Certainly continues the trend of not exactly having dynamite for fists and having warrior/all out warfare inducing monster mentality that Khan struggles with.

Alas, and being fair, Khan's not alone with padding up a record with guys suited to him. Won't be the last either.

This is exactly how I see it. How can Khan say Brook doesn't bring enough to the table or hasn't enough top names on his CV and then consider a Broner fight.

Is Broner a legit WW? No
Has he fought top fighters? One in MM and lost and it's even hard to call MM a 'top' fighter
Bring loads of money to the table? No
Got a WW belt? No

If this fight happens then Khan deserves criticism for this and not fighting Brook for the reasons above.

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Post by ShahenshahG Thu 02 Apr 2015, 2:20 pm

Is he a name in america - Yes
Will Khan look like the bee's Knees - Yes
Does Khan want to force Mayweather into a fight - Yes

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Post by Coxy001 Thu 02 Apr 2015, 2:21 pm

Pedro147 wrote:
Coxy001 wrote:Thing is Chris, not one person mentioned Broner as a viable opponent. Certainly continues the trend of not exactly having dynamite for fists and having warrior/all out warfare inducing monster mentality that Khan struggles with.

Alas, and being fair, Khan's not alone with padding up a record with guys suited to him. Won't be the last either.

This is exactly how I see it. How can Khan say Brook doesn't bring enough to the table or hasn't enough top names on his CV and then consider a Broner fight.

Is Broner a legit WW? No
Has he fought top fighters? One in MM and lost and it's even hard to call MM a 'top' fighter
Bring loads of money to the table? No
Got a WW belt? No

If this fight happens then Khan deserves criticism for this and not fighting Brook for the reasons above.

Pedro, don't be so harsh on Khan. He's promised someone a fight and thus in today's day and age of fighters being total gentlemen he absolutely has to stay true to his word...!

You also forgot:

* Can punch
* Is an aggressive brawler

Basically Khan's kryptonite

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Thu 02 Apr 2015, 2:23 pm

Coxy001 wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
Coxy001 wrote:
ShahenshahG wrote:Yup. He supports ukip

Actually a Tory supporter. You're probably a socialist hater of those who aren't scrounging off the system so support labour.

You sum up everything that is wrong with a Tory's Rolling Eyes

Bet you played cricket at some sort of sh|t level aswell........ Laugh

Hit a nerve with the benefit scrounging have I soldier? Not sure what I've ever said to you, as such you taking an interest in me is just plain weird.

Interest.........just a generalisation of Tory toffs. Like you generalised Labour supporters.

So I take it you play cricket badly then   Very Happy

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Post by Guest Thu 02 Apr 2015, 2:29 pm

ShahenshahG wrote:Is he a name in america - Yes
Will Khan look like the bee's Knees - Yes
Does Khan want to force Mayweather into a fight - Yes
How does beating a guy like Broner force Mayweather into a fight? You think Floyd waits for Broner to get slapped and then defends his honour like Vitali did with Wlad? Khan's improving with every fight so why would Mayweather take a risk fighting him now when he didn't fancy it last year?

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