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Post by sirbenson Wed 24 Jun 2015, 9:39 pm

First topic message reminder :

I thought with no place to discuss European Tour events, and with important upcoming event. I felt it would be a good idea to set up a thread to I am going to try and keep this updated every week with selected tee times.


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Post by I'm never wrong Wed 08 Jul 2015, 6:39 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:I read that they're playing 16 holes of one course (No 1?) and two of another (No 2?). First hole dispensed with and first tournament hole will be #2.

Not sure how accurate that is.

Correct. See my post with video earlier in the thread. Got it from the course website.

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Post by MontysMerkin Thu 09 Jul 2015, 9:50 am

Think the first hole is the second of Gullane 2. Played there a couple of years ago. It looked quite a gentle slope on the tv previews but you need blinkin climbing gear to up there!
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Post by Davie Thu 09 Jul 2015, 11:04 am

Who woke GMac up this week? Shocked

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Post by pedro Thu 09 Jul 2015, 11:57 am

Davie wrote:Who woke GMac up this week? Shocked
The same who woke up Thunderbear.

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Post by McLaren Thu 09 Jul 2015, 12:39 pm

Is anyone heading out to watch this?

I love gullane and usually try and play it at least 3-4 times over the summer, and not just no.1 but 2 and 3 as well. No.1 isn't actually all that good value at over £100 a round but for about £40 you can play 2 and for even less play no.3. 1 isn't really any better than the other two unless you judge courses on length or championshipness.

I will head to the open but can't make it to the Scottish Open.
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Post by super_realist Thu 09 Jul 2015, 1:03 pm

McLaren wrote:Is anyone heading out to watch this?

I love gullane and usually try and play it at least 3-4 times over the summer, and not just no.1 but 2 and 3 as well.  No.1 isn't actually all that good value at over £100 a round but for about £40 you can play 2 and for even less play no.3.  1 isn't really any better than the other two unless you judge courses on length or championshipness.

I will head to the open but can't make it to the Scottish Open.


I'll be sure to say hello boxing

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Post by McLaren Thu 09 Jul 2015, 1:09 pm

What days are you going?
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Post by super_realist Thu 09 Jul 2015, 1:12 pm

Got a 4 day ticket, but probably just Fri and Sun. I'm sure I'll spot you on the Friday as the person shouting "You da man Tiger", obviously you won't be doing that on the Sunday.

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Post by McLaren Thu 09 Jul 2015, 1:25 pm

I am really hoping the R&A manufacture a MAJ and Keegs pairing.

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Post by navyblueshorts Thu 09 Jul 2015, 1:29 pm

super_realist wrote:Got a 4 day ticket, but probably just Fri and Sun. I'm sure I'll spot you on the Friday as the person shouting "You da man Tiger", obviously you won't be doing that on the Sunday.
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Post by super_realist Thu 09 Jul 2015, 1:29 pm

They don't have a sense of humour Mac.

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Post by pedro Thu 09 Jul 2015, 1:45 pm

Faldo/Garcia/Woods could be another good one.

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Post by kwinigolfer Thu 09 Jul 2015, 1:46 pm

Lots of speculation as to who the R&A will send out with Tom Watson next week.
Probably not Mickelson; Webb Simpson has been texting Dawson non-stop lobbying him for one of the slots, but not sure Dawson uses such technology, still on carrier pigeons.

Maybe someone like Els and Rose?

Quite interesting article on last rounds at certain majors, including Palmer's last US Open when he was grouped with John Mahaffey and no-one could figure out why. Until they discovered that there was an Oakmont member called Mahaffey . . . . .

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Post by Roller_Coaster Thu 09 Jul 2015, 2:13 pm

McIlroy/Woods Sunday pairing looks promising.

In the Nike truck!

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Post by pedro Thu 09 Jul 2015, 2:18 pm

Roller_Coaster wrote:McIlroy/Woods Sunday pairing looks promising.

In the Nike truck!
Maybe the handicap ramp they'll use getting into it will be shaped like a swoosh.

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Post by kwinigolfer Thu 09 Jul 2015, 4:00 pm

East Lothian is a part of the world I don't know at all; gorgeous views, place looks a picture.

Scores slightly higher this afternoon?

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Post by JAS Thu 09 Jul 2015, 10:42 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:East Lothian is a part of the world I don't know at all; gorgeous views, place looks a picture.

Scores slightly higher this afternoon?

Thats a big gap on your golfing CV Kwini, That stretch of Coastline from Musselburgh to North Berwick of the A198? is just golfing paradise.

Nice 3 birdie finish from Howeller, wonder if he can get 4 rounds in without throwing in a couple of big numbers, if he can he won't be far away. Bet Gmac would have bought that finish :-/

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Post by kwinigolfer Fri 10 Jul 2015, 8:22 am

Lots of gaps JAS, sad to say.

Felipe Aguilar six under thru 6 holes, including hole in one. Not a bad start to one's Friday.

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Post by incontinentia Fri 10 Jul 2015, 10:19 am

Good to see Lowry mounting a stout challenge so far. He loves this type of golf.
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Post by super_realist Fri 10 Jul 2015, 10:24 am

There's never a pun (or bun) far away when Lowry is mentioned.

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Post by MustPuttBetter Fri 10 Jul 2015, 2:20 pm

I thought Olesen was trying to prove me wrong, having said on Kwini's thread that he wasn't quite living up to the hype. But he's going backwards today....

I really think Lowry will win a major at some point, the Open being his best chance. I'll have money on him
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Post by super_realist Fri 10 Jul 2015, 2:41 pm

I think he's more likely to drink the bottle than use it to win a major, but there's no doubt he's a decent player these days at the upper European Tour echelon, even if he is still a fat repulsive gutlord.

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Post by kwinigolfer Fri 10 Jul 2015, 2:45 pm

Tightly compressed leaderboard until one of the top guys can string together some birdies, top 77 all within 7 shots.

Looks like the cut could go to -3 - that'll leave some good names (Colsaerts, Levy, An, Berger, Ilonen etc) without a payday, and others still with lots to do.
Olesen can't afford any more dropped shots can he?

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Post by MustPuttBetter Fri 10 Jul 2015, 2:57 pm

Would be impressive to lead after day 1 and miss the cut
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Post by super_realist Fri 10 Jul 2015, 3:00 pm

MustPuttBetter wrote:Would be impressive to lead after day 1 and miss the cut

I think Steven Tilly did that at the Open in 2010.

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Post by MustPuttBetter Fri 10 Jul 2015, 3:28 pm

More impressive than winning it, give that man a medal
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Post by I'm never wrong Fri 10 Jul 2015, 4:13 pm

What are you doing Poults?

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Post by MustPuttBetter Fri 10 Jul 2015, 5:04 pm

+7 today for Olesen after -7 yesterday. A 14 shot swing in 2 days is most impressive for a pro
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Post by GPB Fri 10 Jul 2015, 6:38 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if Sneds is paired with Watson the first two days.  And possibly Luke

Sneds is a very good friend of Watson, and Luke was with Nicklaus is in final round in 2005 (with and Watson).

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Post by pedro Fri 10 Jul 2015, 6:43 pm

Olesen should be paired with a coach. Or a shrink.

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Post by kwinigolfer Fri 10 Jul 2015, 7:14 pm

Snedeker is a good call, GPB. I was trying to think of non-Americans, doubt if it will be Luke again though. Possibly Oosthuizen or McDowell?


Big field - 80 something - playing Saturday, Poulter the only Top 50 guy to mess up his lines.


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Post by McLaren Fri 10 Jul 2015, 7:37 pm

What about Tiger and Watson? They could both play their last open together.
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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 11 Jul 2015, 2:00 pm

Jimmy Walker making an early run for worst round of the day (of many a day for him): +7 after four holes. Wouldn't have expected that in a million years.
He'll be flying solo on Sunday at this rate.

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Post by super_realist Sat 11 Jul 2015, 2:15 pm

GPB wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Sneds is paired with Watson the first two days.  And possibly Luke

Sneds is a very good friend of Watson, and Luke was with Nicklaus is in final round in 2005 (with and Watson).

I remember Donald saying he found it very distracting so I'd hope they wouldn't put him through that again.

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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 11 Jul 2015, 3:52 pm

Golf Channel shows the coverage in the US on something like a ten-minute tape delay. Why? What are they afraid of? A Scottish streaker? Some things about America I'll never understand!

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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 11 Jul 2015, 4:38 pm

Nice to see Russell Knox bringing his PGA Tour form to the party.
Apparently he made a hole-in-one here in an earlier life.

Who is the 606'er who told us to watch out for Matthew Nixon about four years ago? He/she was right!!

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Post by GPB Sat 11 Jul 2015, 6:26 pm

Chris Kirk has WDed from Open Championship.  Kevin Streelman is now in the Championship.

Richie Ramsay should be the current first alternate.

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Post by sirbenson Sun 12 Jul 2015, 11:14 am

Alex Noren has withdrawn from the Open and replaced by Hiroshi Iwata

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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 12 Jul 2015, 12:08 pm

1 hour and 57 minutes for Jimmy Walker to shoot his 70.

Why did Alex Noren w/d? Very disappointing.

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Post by sirbenson Sun 12 Jul 2015, 12:17 pm

Can't seem to find why exactly but he did withdraw from the French Open, I really hope it isn't the same wrist injury that took him out for a lengthy period. He really has gotten some rotten luck with injury.


In tennis Juan Martin Del Potro has just had his third wrist surgery, so I hope it isn't the same for Noren!

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Post by sirbenson Sun 12 Jul 2015, 12:19 pm

http://www.golf.se/Folja/Nyheter/2015/7/Noren-skadad-infor-The-Open/

This article suggests it was a muscle strain!

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Post by pedro Sun 12 Jul 2015, 12:34 pm

Priceless! (Not the shot, but the celebration..)

http://www.europeantour.com/videoaudio/video/videoid=263881.html#

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Post by sirbenson Sun 12 Jul 2015, 12:35 pm

Ramsay first alternate, followed by Shawn Stefani who is second alternate (Who could qualify tonight from the John Deere Classic)


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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 12 Jul 2015, 12:41 pm

It seems the R&A are giving "alternate" status on a moving basis. Wonder if that's published anywhere. Regardless, bad news for George McNeill and Chris Wood . . . . . .

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Post by sirbenson Sun 12 Jul 2015, 12:46 pm

It is bizarre why they don't have a list anywhere.

I got the info regarding Stefani being the second alternate from Brian Wacker on twitter.

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Post by GPB Sun 12 Jul 2015, 1:29 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:1 hour and 57 minutes for Jimmy Walker to shoot his 70.

Why did Alex Noren w/d? Very disappointing.

Will he  be at TOC before the leaders tee off. How long is the drive to St Andrews?

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Post by robopz Sun 12 Jul 2015, 2:04 pm

My understanding was the initial group of "to fill the field " alts would get in via the June 28 ranking... but as of this week .... the July 5 ranking would be used.

EDIT:  And to be clear here... I think the confusion comes in because players have been getting in via the OWGR late by TWO different criteria...

The first was the "fill the field" criteria that used a prior OWGR ranking list... that's the one that got in Molinari, Lingmerth... etc.   But that wasn't the ALT list, it was in effect an "exemption" criteria.    The ALT list is based off of the most recent July 5th ranking...  just as the ALT list for last year was based off the July 6 ranking...

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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 12 Jul 2015, 2:22 pm

Ho robo!
Anything to up the number of Japanese participants. No-one ever accused the R&A of being transparent, can't understand why they can't publish such things on their web-site.

No matter to Marc Warren; very happy to see he's going like a train, and surely a good e.w. investment for next week. He still reminds me a bit of Matt Every . . . . .

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Post by robopz Sun 12 Jul 2015, 2:41 pm

Yeah.. it is odd there [apparently] wasn't a published list this year...  Last year there must have been or at least a press release on it... I Googled it up and found it in a bunch of media stories dated July 7, 2014 with the 2014 alts listed...  But this year I can find NOTHING on it.     Also odd... I seem to remember this "fill the field" and Alt process clearly laid out last year on the Open site... if I recall correctly, that's how I learned about it.   But again... I can find NOTHING about it this year, on the Open site or anywhere..... really odd.

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Post by GPB Sun 12 Jul 2015, 4:05 pm

https://twitter.com/TheOpen/status/620213838705725440

Tweet from the Open Championship promoting the Champions Challenge.

Open Champs missing from the picture

Arnie, Jack, Roberto, Lee, Johnny, The Shark,


Mark O'Meara's picture is missing, but I can't imagine why he would not play! He is in the field.


I guess that is Peter Thomson and Bob Charles flanking Gary Player on the top row. Good for them for making the long trek to St Andrews from Australia and New Zealand.


And it is disappointing that Arnie, Nicklaus, Trevino, Miller, and Norman are not going to play.


Roberto I can understand.  He is 92 yrs old and IIRC, his health is not that good.


Edit:  O'Meara is pictured, but Lehman is not, along with Daly and Rory.

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