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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:58 pm

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Third degree
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Baron
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Solanki
THE GOAT
Le Roi king
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Solanki and Curran the junior to miss out
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Post by jimbobgooner Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:04 pm

coles with t20 figures Laugh
and then gets third degree Sad


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:12 pm

Third degree gets in and gets out again - need to make the most of getting in as an opener really
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Post by jimbobgooner Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:16 pm

50 for harinath clap

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Post by guildfordbat Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:22 pm

50 for the Baron. clap Think he needed that.

Sanga's been a lot better for Surrey than some of our previous overseas signings but imo hasn't really delivered to the extent expected. Would like to see a big performance in this match.

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Post by jimbobgooner Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:25 pm

100 up clap

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:28 pm

Harinath is not hanging about! Shocked

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Post by jimbobgooner Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:46 pm

Corporalhumblebucket wrote:Harinath is not hanging about! Shocked
he must have heard you Laugh

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:54 pm

50 partnership clap

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:55 pm

jimbobgooner wrote:
Corporalhumblebucket wrote:Harinath is not hanging about! Shocked
he must have heard you Laugh

Definitely calmed down a bit.... Rolling Eyes But some nice strokes from Sanga tho...

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Post by SimonofSurrey Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:01 pm

Glass half full time: we could rattle up a significant lead by tea tomorrow then skittle Kent and pick up full points from this one.Very Happy  
Glass half empty: Glam are 105-1 and only need about another 360 to beat Essex. Doh

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Post by jimbobgooner Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:05 pm

3 overs left Fingers Crossed

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Post by jimbobgooner Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:21 pm

stumps 144 for 1

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:25 pm

144 - 1 at the close.  A positive reply so far.  A draw looking by far the most likely outcome, but if Surrey were to score quickly tomorrow we could put Kent under pressure on the last day.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:26 pm

Taking stumps at 6:15-6:20pm when we lost so many overs yesterday - what's that about?!

Anyways I'd call this match "evenly poised" - Kent won the first half of the day, we won the second half of the day.

If we're to win we need to bat through tomorrow and into Thursday morning, before giving ourselves two and a half sessions to bowl them out.

Will take a lot of effort, but not beyond the realms of possibility. Draw most likely tho
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Post by guildfordbat Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:43 pm

SimonofSurrey wrote:...
 
Glass half empty: Glam are 105-1 and only need about another 360 to beat Essex. Doh

Yep, Glam aren't out of that yet. Essex would have been hoping for at least a couple of wickets by now.

Meanwhile, strange sort of day at the Oval. Kid Curran ended up with the sort of figures that Simon will be drooling about! Even grumpy old me will congratulate him for a fivefer on debut. clap However, he and our attack generally did seem to concede too many runs after lunch - hope that doesn't end up causing real harm. I've never felt convinced by the balance of this attack - more than happy to eat humble pie on Thursday evening if those concerns prove unfounded.

Anyway, a more than decent reply so far led by the Baron.

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Post by guildfordbat Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:02 pm

Olly wrote:Taking stumps at 6:15-6:20pm when we lost so many overs yesterday - what's that about?!

Anyways I'd call this match "evenly poised" - Kent won the first half of the day, we won the second half of the day.

If we're to win we need to bat through tomorrow and into Thursday morning, before giving ourselves two and a half sessions to bowl them out.

Will take a lot of effort, but not beyond the realms of possibility. Draw most likely tho

Olly - that's not the only option. If we could bowl them out a second time by tea on the last day for a lead of 180 or less, I would expect us to have a dart at it. Similar to win over Leics.

Mind you, we need to get a lot more runs on the board before I get too far ahead of myself. Plus we need 'playable' weather. I'm in London tomorrow anyway. Hope to get along late afternoon.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:41 pm

Surrey haven't really got going this morning.  Harinath out straight away. (That's almost an iron law - if Harinath is not out overnight he gets out straight away the next day.)  Ansari and Le Roi king  have got in and then out.  Sanga continues sedately, now wiith Sibley.  224 - 4.  At least that's our first batting point - and hopefully we could get at least a couple more this afternoon.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:57 pm

Sibley goes for 11.   furious  Now 234 - 5 and hopes of a substantial first innings lead - or indeed any first innings lead - looking a tad optimistic.  We've had several itsy bitsy partnerships of around 30 runs this morning, but we really need one of 50+, and preferably a lot more.

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241 - 5 at lunch.  Lost 4 wickets for just under 100 runs this morning.  Not disastrous, but could have been a lot better.  Looks almost certain Glam will lose their match - they have lost 7 wickets this morning, so overall Surrey look likely to gain quite a few points on Glam from this round of matches.

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Post by guildfordbat Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:15 pm

Where are you all? I'm at the ground. Arrived during tea. Regulars were pessimistic about our chances then and thought we could lose. Even with a deficit of 25, I couldn't see that - unlikely to be enough time for Kent to bowl us out.

Both the Currans bowling well and keeping us in with a shout. Kid has 2 wkts. Bell-D plumb to one that didn't get up and Blake gifting a catch to Sibley at mid off. Currently 20/2. Kent 45 in front.

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Post by guildfordbat Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:28 pm

Make that 3 for the Kid! Denly caught and bowled. The catch itself wasn't too difficult but he he did well to keep his balance and awareness on the follow through. 23/3.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:32 pm

I'm decorating the barracks. 8 wickets on debut for Curran Minor, aged 17. Wow!

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Post by SimonofSurrey Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:40 pm

Bit of a pessimistic view perhaps but if we avoid disaster and draw this game we'll increase our lead over Glam by 8 points, to beyond what they mathematically could pick from their game in hand.

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Post by LondonTiger Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:56 pm

guildfordbat wrote:Blake gifting a catch to Sibley at mid off.


????

I can understand the confusion as why the hell did Kent go into this game with a tail ender at no3?

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Post by chichestersurryfan Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:01 pm

Yes, the rain that frustrated us on Monday, may yet come to save us and allow us to get the extra 4 points for the draw...fantastic performance by Curran minor and also by Curran senior to get us that extra batting point.... could be that Kent are either declaring or all out with a lead of say 220 by just before lunchtime tomorrow and leave us either 2 sessions to survive or to try to go for an improbable win....could be a fascinating last day...shame I am at work!

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:24 pm

Couple of wickets for Ansari including Billings. Game marching onwards rapidly.

I thought Blake was a reasonable batsman, albeit usually lower middle, and playing mainly in limited overs? Surrey have of course opened with Chris Jordan in the not so distant past1

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Post by chichestersurryfan Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:32 pm

Certainly looks more and more certain there will be a positive result... It would be good to hear GB's thoughts on what he thinks is an achievable target for Surrey tomorrow? I am thinking anything above 150 would be challenging? a fascinating match!

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Post by jimbobgooner Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:44 pm

LondonTiger wrote:
guildfordbat wrote:Blake gifting a catch to Sibley at mid off.  


????

I can understand the confusion as why the hell did Kent go into this game with a tail ender at no3?
what a ball Wink up

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Post by jimbobgooner Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:18 pm

norah strikes Very Happy

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:19 pm

90 - 7 with two wickets for Norah!

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Post by jimbobgooner Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:20 pm

norah gets stevens Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:22 pm

Yay!

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Post by jimbobgooner Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:26 pm

TC strikes Very Happy lead 124

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Post by jimbobgooner Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:29 pm

norah again Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo
125 to win Fingers Crossed

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Post by jimbobgooner Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:37 pm

2 overs left tonight Yikes

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Post by jimbobgooner Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:41 pm

son of boris back to opening again Shocked

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:43 pm

1 over negotiated...

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Post by jimbobgooner Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:45 pm

and he gets bowled off the last ball of the day mad mad mad steam steam steam furious

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rodney picard

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:12 pm

Excellent days play from Surrey in the end - Lovely hundred from Sanga, should put whatever doubters he bizarrely had away

Shame the rest failed badly, but the bowling line up superb to bowl a team out for 99 second dig is amazing. Kid Curran - WOW!

Easy win to be wrapped up tomorrow - well played fellas
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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:07 pm

20 wickets were lost today in scoring about 270 runs. If the wicket is breaking up Surrey may well struggle to reach even this small target. One plus point is that Kent probably can't afford to crowd the batsmen too much

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Post by guildfordbat Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:09 pm

guildfordbat wrote:...

Sanga's been a lot better for Surrey than some of our previous overseas signings but imo hasn't really delivered to the extent expected. Would like to see a big performance in this match.

Olly - is your last comment about ''whatever doubters he [Sanga] bizarrely had'' aimed at this post of mine from yesterday?

If so, I would stress I've never doubted Sanga's ability (or commitment to Surrey for that matter). However, before today he was sixth in the Surrey batting averages with an average of 44. I just found that slightly disappointing. I'm sure he would at least have felt the same.

Obviously good for all with Surrey at heart that his undoubted class shone through today and we got the big performance I was after. Hopefully, he can go some way to repeating it tomorrow.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:38 pm

No no Guildford - there have been vocal sections on Twitter having a go at him. I agree with your point he hasn't quite reached the heights his average say he should
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Post by SimonofSurrey Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:04 pm

And if Sanga gets another hundred tomorrow, I fancy our chances of making the further 121 we need.

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Post by jimbobgooner Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:35 pm

still makes no sense why son of boris opened

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:42 pm

SimonofSurrey wrote:And if Sanga gets another hundred tomorrow, I fancy our chances of making the further 121 we need.

Hopefully he doesn't get the chance to come in Smile

Really a 50-60 from one of our bats wins the game - and we bat long (in theory - Curran senior in at 10 and he has a half century this year).

Corporal I'll wager the bar will need to be opened around 2:03pm
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Post by SimonofSurrey Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:43 pm

Agreed, jimbobgooner. It was imperative to try not to lose a frontline batsman this evening and give Kent a late lift. We goofed. I would have been inclined to send in Curran Senior to keep Third Degree company.

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Post by guildfordbat Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:49 pm

Cheers, Olly. Thanks for clarifying that. I thought and hoped my comment was fair and reasonable etc.

I wasn't aware of the background. I don't tweet and tend to only look on Twitter when you and others here (JimBob's good) point to something interesting.

Onto today's play - although I only watched the final session until about 6 pm. Kent had just gone 6 down then. [Caught up since with cricinfo.]

However, I would say that a lot of what happened after I left was much deserved. Batty was bowling really well from the Pavilion End and deserved more than his one wicket at that time. He was getting turn and bounce which was causing Kent problems - in response to a comment / query from the Corporal, I thought the pitch was offering him assistance but it didn't seem like it was breaking up and unplayable. Essentially fine bowling making good use of the conditions.

I see that Foakes played a significant part in Batty's dismissals. That's only fair too. His glove work always looked neat and tidy. Much quieter than Wilson behind the stumps but very much in control. Foakes won't be keen to give the gloves back.

Although the younger sibling has understandably taken the headlines again tonight, both the Currans bowled well. Taking little away from young Sam but I felt Kent helped him on his way. They seemed too keen to quickly increase their lead rather than have a proper look at what was being delivered.

Olly - you'll be pleased to know that Ansari - bowling from the Vauxhall End - was also on the money. Lovely ball to dismiss Northeast, took the edge as it went away from him and kept on going until well pouched at slip by Roy (should be worth a look on Surrey tv). Ansari also clung on to a sharp return from Billings although that was another example of Kent trying to get into top gear before they were out of second.

Burke wasn't at his best today - bowling a bit too wide too often - and was soon replaced. No real harm done although I was always wary of going into this match with such an inexperienced seam attack.

A great shame that we lost Ansari at the close. That gives Kent some hope and us some anxiety. However, I believe the target is small enough for us to get the win - maybe by about 4 or 5 wickets. In response to an earlier question from Chichester, I would guess Kent should have been aiming to set a minimum target of 180. Very much a guess but you asked!


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:55 pm

Yes as much as I am a fan of #ansariforengland I do wonder about the persistence of him opening - particularly on the back of Baron getting runs in the first dig.

Good report Guildford - you heading down tomorrow?

Would be nice to see Third Degree score a fifty tomorrow - he's got in and then out in the 20/30's a couple times since he's been back from injury, feel he needs to turn one of them into a more substantial knock soon
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:05 pm

And watching the highlights on Youtube (what is posted so far) - seems Sam Curran really has a great skill to bring the ball into right handers and away from left handers. A deadly ball for the left arm seamer, especially when you have one that goes straight on too. He also appeared to get a wicket with a well directed short ball - Guildford how did he look pace wise?

Also chapeau to Foakes for a lovely piece of work to dismiss Stevens - very tasty. Is Wilson's place in the side under threat?
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