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Post by hazharrison Wed 09 Sep 2015, 6:54 pm

First topic message reminder :

http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2015/9/9/9271811/can-boxing-trust-usada

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Fri 11 Sep 2015, 11:11 pm

I forget Milky am I a Truss alias or are you for that matter?

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Post by milkyboy Fri 11 Sep 2015, 11:29 pm

jog on hammy

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Fri 11 Sep 2015, 11:32 pm

Are we all just sick and twisted manifestations of Trussman66 arguing with ourselves?

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Post by ShahenshahG Fri 11 Sep 2015, 11:33 pm

Can't be ......

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Post by RanjitPatel Fri 11 Sep 2015, 11:42 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Are we all just sick and twisted manifestations of Trussman66 arguing with ourselves?

That reminds me of the film identity.

I'm a Mayweather fan too and wouldn't like to believe that he's done anything more dodgy than rehydrating but it wouldn't surprise me. I'd hope not though.

I doubt it would affect his all time standings. Doesn't seem to have with Jones jnr and Toney. In fact it's probably about time this forum did a thread for people's opinions on where Mayweather stands all time wise. Can't recall it being done for at least a month.

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Post by milkyboy Sat 12 Sep 2015, 12:06 am

I propose a 'top 10 reasons why Floyd is top 10 all time p4p' thread.

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Post by hazharrison Sat 12 Sep 2015, 7:54 am

milkyboy wrote:I propose a 'top 10 reasons why Floyd is top 10 all time p4p' thread.

Here's Deadspin arguing he isn't (while nailing his character):

http://deadspin.com/why-is-floyd-mayweather-fighting-a-nobody-this-weekend-1729562448

"I don’t know whether Floyd Mayweather, Jr. is sufficiently self-aware to understand that he doesn’t enter into any serious discussion of the greatest boxers ever. I suspect that he is, and that it upsets him that history, while not being unkind to him, will wind up placing him among the pile of very good, but not all-time great, champions."

Let the aliases come forth!

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Post by AdamT Sat 12 Sep 2015, 9:38 am

Hahaha

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 12 Sep 2015, 9:41 am

Blown my mind and really changed my opinion, relentless article posting seems to be classically conditioning me, I feel like Pavlov's dog.

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Post by Coxy001 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 9:44 am

For some reason I read that as Prov's dog and got awfully confused for a split second.

Time for coffee.

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Post by AdamT Sat 12 Sep 2015, 9:44 am

Haz you're like a dog with a bone.

Just let it go. No matter what you,Hauser and Bert Sugars ghost think, Floyd will be an ATG.

Whether he's top ten or 30. He will still be great and remembered as the greatest in his era.

If he isn't great, then stop watching boxing. Sure what's the point? The last 20 years have been useless.


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Post by hazharrison Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:14 am

AdamT wrote:Haz you're like a dog with a bone.

Just let it go. No matter what you,Hauser and Bert Sugars ghost think, Floyd will be an ATG.

Whether he's top ten or 30. He will still be great and remembered as the greatest in his era.

If he isn't great, then stop watching boxing. Sure what's the point? The last 20 years have been useless.


Great fighter; best of this era but all-time great? I'm not so sure. Floyd fans will of course keep wearing their caps and t-shirts undeterred.

The Mayweather era has been pretty abysmal. I'm looking forward to something new - hopefully we'll get a counter movement of risk-taking, of fighters challenging themselves spearheaded by the likes of Lomachenko.

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Post by AdamT Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:43 am

Floyd did take risks at a time. As did Manny.

Both guys began to choose opponents because they can. As has Cotto.

Lomachenko ha long way to go to reach Floyd.

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Post by hazharrison Sat 12 Sep 2015, 12:52 pm

AdamT wrote:Floyd did take risks at a time. As did Manny.

Both guys began to choose opponents because they can. As has Cotto.

Lomachenko ha long way to go to reach Floyd.

Lomachenko's already more entertaining and more interesting - that's all boxing fans want. Let's hope the era of calculated, risk-averse stink fests disappear with him.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 12 Sep 2015, 12:54 pm

Like Lomachenko's risk adverse performance against Rodriguez?

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Post by Scottrf Sat 12 Sep 2015, 12:56 pm

To be fair a lot of boxers would be more risk adverse if they came into the sport in their late 20s with an amateur record of 396-1.

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Post by AdamT Sat 12 Sep 2015, 1:01 pm

Ffs Mayweather isn't an all time great.

Sure Lomachenko is.

Haz if you're anywhere local, can I come over and have what you're taking?

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