Argentina vs Georgia, 25th September

ARGENTINA v GEORGIA
25 September 2015
KO: 16:45 BST
Kingsholm, Gloucester
Live on ITV4 (United Kingdom)


Teams

Argentina

1. Marcos Ayerza
2. Agustin Creevy (captain)
3. Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro
4. Matias Alemanno
5. Tomas Lavanini
6. Juan Manuel Leguizamon
7. Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe
8. Facundo Isa
9. Tomas Cubelli
10. Nicolas Sanchez
11. Juan Imhoff
12. Juan Martin Hernandez
13. Marcelo Bosch
14. Santiago Cordero
15. Joaquin Tuculet

Replacements
16. Julian Montoya
17. Lucas Noguera
18. Ramiro Herrera
19. Javier Ortega Desio
20. Pablo Matera
21. Martin Landajo
22. Jeronimo De La Fuente
23. Lucas Gonzalez Amorosino


Georgia

1. Mikheil Nariashvili
2. Jaba Bregvadze    
3. Davit Zirakashvili
4. Giorgi Nemsadze
5. Konstantine Mikautadze
6. Giorgi Tkhilaishvili
7. Viktor Kolelishvili
8. Mamuka Gorgodze (captain)
9. Vasil Lobzhanidze
10. Lasha Malaguradze
11. Giorgi Aptsiauri
12. Merab Sharikadze
13. Davit Kacharava
14. Tamaz Mchedlidze
15. Merab Kvirikashvili

Replacements:
16. Shalva Mamukashvili
17. Karlen Asieshvili
18. Levan Chilachava
19. Levan Datunashvili
20. Shalva Sutiashvili
21. Giorgi Begadze
22. Giorgi Pruidze
23. Murazi Giorgadze



Officials
REFEREE JP Doyle
ASSISTANT REFEREE Nigel Owens
ASSISTANT REFEREE Stuart Berry
TV MATCH OFFICIAL Ben Skeen

This should be one for fans of a good scrum!

Hope the Ref has been brushing up his language skills

lostinwales wrote:Hope the Ref has been brushing up his language skills

Anyone know what Doyle's first language is. Never sounds to be English

Anyway not too long to kick off in the game no-one wants to talk about.

Well you guys should be used to him...he's one of your refs.

Very important game for both Irish and French onlookers.

Looking forward to this one. Georgia won well the other day and I feel they could give Argentina a good game. Can remember sitting up and watching these two teams play each other in the last World Cup and Georgia played well against them for the first 60 odd minutes. Will be interesting to see how far they have come since.

That said Argentina played well against New Zealand on Sunday so may prove to be too good for them.

I think the difference will be the backs. Lots of grunt in the forwards but which side will have something sharp in the backs to exploit any gains in the middle.

Winning is winning under the rules but that didn't look nice. Whatever anyone thinks of drop goals in general, surely there should be a rule against ones taken so close.... a team could get quite a lead going for a bunch of those.

Argentina are looking sharp so far. They have some classy backs and the forward pack seem to have some skill as well.

A goodish Pro12 game so far......

...and an Irish ref too.  Feels like PR'O12 home.

Georgia backing up their very good performance against Tonga so far, physical and organised. Only need to watch the discipline, especially the high tackles.

SecretFly wrote:Winning is winning under the rules but that didn't look nice. Whatever anyone thinks of drop goals in general, surely there should be a rule against ones taken so close.... a team could get quite a lead going for a bunch of those.

Surprised teams don't do that. Just keep taking the 3 points throughout the game.

Seriously when are they going to promote Georgia to the 6N?

The 7N?

But seriously, I think Italy would give the Georgians a harder game than Argentina are at present.

Georgia are doing what theyre good at, keeping things simple and brutal...

Argentina just getting drawn into the battle, and not looking at how to win the war right now.

Georgia look stubborn, but your just waiting for Argentina to take it up a gear out in the wider channels.

SecretFly wrote:Winning is winning under the rules but that didn't look nice.  Whatever anyone thinks of drop goals in general, surely there should be a rule against ones taken so close....  a team could get quite a lead going for a bunch of those.

How many games do you see where the points scoring is dominated by drop goals? Until that happens regularly there is no reason to adjust the rules

SecretFly wrote:The 7N?

But seriously, I think Italy would give the Georgians a harder game than Argentina are at present.  

The Italian that showed up against France without Parisse? Your having a laugh.

Worthy to note there are only Georgian in their team, no messing around with Fijians or Saffas unlike other nations

lostinwales wrote:

SecretFly wrote:Winning is winning under the rules but that didn't look nice.  Whatever anyone thinks of drop goals in general, surely there should be a rule against ones taken so close....  a team could get quite a lead going for a bunch of those.

How many games do you see where the points scoring is dominated by drop goals? Until that happens regularly there is no reason to adjust the rules

Thanks for that, lost. My point stands.... that ain't rugby that happened at the beginning...but it was legal, and in theory, a team could kick themselves ahead or back into a game from such distances.

I'd personally just outlaw drop goals completely. But you're lucky - I don't write the rules

Worst 40 minutes I have seen from a Ref in the WC so far.

VinceWLB wrote:

SecretFly wrote:The 7N?

But seriously, I think Italy would give the Georgians a harder game than Argentina are at present.  

The Italian that showed up against France without Parisse? Your having a laugh.

Worthy to note there are only Georgian in their team, no messing around with Fijians or Saffas unlike other nations

I'm not having a laugh. You all seem to be impressed by Argentina. I just don't buy it yet in this WC. Maybe a second half will change my mind.

That soft refereeing is getting tedious, this isn't touch rugby ffs

Anyone else thought Gorgodze contest was perfectly legit?

Not that it matterd but how the hell was the grounding "inconclusive"


As to Gorgodze on first view I thought he was fine, but on replay he is a touch late and lying on the player.

Argies really showing some class now..

Haha Creevy was lying on the Georgian player but he gets the penalty, worst refereeing i have seen in this world cup so far.

Nonsense Vince, its only the PrO'12 refs that give poor performances. The refs in the other leagues are all fantastic remember?

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Nonsense Vince, its only the PrO'12 refs that give poor performances. The refs in the other leagues are all fantastic remember?

Yeah this is a great counter example against Chunky's theories

The guy is still Irish.... oh and Owens on the sideline?

So Chunky is spot on on the detail of his theory. Irish refs and Owens.... case proven.

The argentine 8 was completely out when he kicked that! Come on TMO, the whole point of you ruining the game is to make the correct calls.

They want the tries Rory. The Competition needs the sexy tries.

God those two guys chatting in the commentary box.... is this typical kinda chat in the AP?

True bill. Hopefully Schmidt will get the memo as well.

So much for cracking down on simulation

Argentina look really good. Their backline play amongst other things has improved a lot since joining the RC. Some really exciting backs in that backline, it's almost like watching the France of old.

SecretFly wrote:God those two guys chatting in the commentary box.... is this typical kinda chat in the AP?

No. The commentator is not a BT guy and Geordan has never done TV over here before.

LondonTiger wrote:

SecretFly wrote:God those two guys chatting in the commentary box.... is this typical kinda chat in the AP?

No. The commentator is not a BT guy and Geordan has never done TV over here before.

Thanks Tiger. I was just wondering about the other guy. I've picked up that this is Geordan's first (and last if he doesn't open up a little more) gig.

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Nonsense Vince, its only the PrO'12 refs that give poor performances. The refs in the other leagues are all fantastic remember?

We'd be happy to let you have JPD - plus a few others - I certainly don't think we have all fantastic refs in the AP.

I thought Georgia had some good players. I know at least two of them play in France, but how about the rest?

mikey_dragon wrote:I thought Georgia had some good players. I know at least two of them play in France, but how about the rest?

Pretty much all of them play in France, just most below T14.

All the front rowers play in the top 14 and great props like Kakovin and Kubriashvilli are left out of the 23 altogether..