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Post by spencerclarke Mon 23 Nov 2015, 8:07 pm

Evening all,

What's everyone's thoughts on Saturdays fight? Wlad in round 9 for me.

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Post by 3fingers Mon 23 Nov 2015, 8:10 pm

Wlad first 4

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Post by catchweight Mon 23 Nov 2015, 11:10 pm

I have seen Fury talking his gameplan on the fight and if he is to be believed its difficult to see the fight going more than a few rounds. He say he plans to throw the jab and then wade in immediately afterwards with uppercuts and hooks. Its knock out or get knocked out stuff.

He has me totally sold that hes going to really go for Klitscho here! I dont think I have ever looked forward to a Klitschko fight more!

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Post by Qoxiivi Mon 23 Nov 2015, 11:42 pm

Depends how Fury fights but, well, he's chinny and likely doesn't have much confidence in winning a decision which, to me, says he'll try and force things at some point and get starched. My guess is somewhere around the 5th.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 23 Nov 2015, 11:57 pm

Fury won't force anything...He'll concede the center and try to catch Wlad coming in...and then tie him up.

Can't see an early finish.....

Wlad stoppage round 8...

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Post by AZZJ44 Tue 24 Nov 2015, 12:11 am

I highly doubt that the game plan Peter Fury has devised has been to wade in throwing bombs. They both now the game. He'll try and box like he always does.

Gareth A Davies was on Talksport today saying Klitscho has gone for a bigger ring and looks leaner than usual. He thinks Wlad is going to be moving a lot more than usual. Maybe similar tactics to the Wach fight? If that's the case though he's oversold Fury's chin.

Maybe there is concern over Fury's size and reach. I would have thought Wlad would know he could end this fight at any time. Maybe he wants to appease the German advertisers.

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Post by milkyboy Tue 24 Nov 2015, 12:13 am

I'd be shocked if he went for it too. He'll get starched early if he does in my view. He'll be cagey and hope to take it into the later rounds where he might fancy his chances a bit more. I'm expecting an ugly spoiling fight while it lasts... Which may not be long.

Hope I'm wrong and he has a real go for it.

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Post by Mr Bounce Tue 24 Nov 2015, 6:38 am

My prediction? PAIN!

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Post by DuransHorse Tue 24 Nov 2015, 7:59 am

You'd think that given both are fans of the old 'grab and lean' technique when things get close there will be a lot of hugging and spoiling. I think Fury will try and use his jab as it's proven to work lately, then Klit will beat him at that game and it'll get a bit untidy with energy sapping cuddles for a few rounds.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Tue 24 Nov 2015, 8:09 am

Klitshcko to teach him a lesson and stop him midway after an easy shutout.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Tue 24 Nov 2015, 8:25 am

Although I think Fury has the tools to win this one, I don't think he will

Wouldn't be shocked if Fury shocks the world, but if you put a gun to my head:

Klitschko within 8

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Post by hazharrison Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:32 am

This could be anything - absolutely anything.

I like Fury in this fight and think he'll give Klitschko fits, however, Wlad has that other-worldly punch power (he's ridiculously muscled for a 39-year old heavyweight) and Fury always tends to get tagged at least once with a big one.

If Wlad doesn't land a big one then I think you'll see him look more of a wet lettuce than ever before. Fury won't be intimidated, he won't fold and he'll show Wlad plenty of speed, movement and workrate.

It's must-see TV and if Fury were to win I would be absolutely over the moon.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:37 am

Wlad likes to appease the sponsors and German fans by dragging things out.

Equally, seeing Fury's Tweets during the Murray fight about German roberries and never getting the decision there, I don't think he's going to want this to go to points - I don't think he'll wade in, but as the fight goes on he'll press harder and take more risks going for the ko.

Which is when Wlad will ko him.

Klit TKO9.

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Post by AdamT Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:44 am

Fury to do a lot better than expected, but expect Wlad to win a wide decision.

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Post by AZZJ44 Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:55 am

I didn't think it possible to underrate fury but maybe I am. Quite a few of you knowledgeable folks think he can test Wlad. I do hope you're right.

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Post by AdamT Tue 24 Nov 2015, 10:00 am

I don't think fury is great, but I don't think he has taken any fight seriously until this point.

As good as Klit has been, he is getting on a bit and Fury is a big guy.

I am definitely not saying Fury will win, but I think he is a live under dog. I actually think he will do better against Wlad, than what he would of done against David Haye.

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Post by hazharrison Tue 24 Nov 2015, 10:10 am

Fury's got balls - that puts him above the majority of Wlad's previous opponents.

Ring rust might stymie him (Wlad could well crack him out before he warms up).

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Post by AdamT Tue 24 Nov 2015, 10:11 am

He does have balls, hopefully he gets into the fight and makes it entertaining.

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Post by Coxy001 Tue 24 Nov 2015, 10:19 am

Easiest money I'll ever make:

Wlad 1-3: 17/2
Wlad 4-6: 11/2

£50 at 17/2 = £475
£50 at 11/2 = £325

Glass chin. Average fighter. Gonna get splattered.

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Post by hazharrison Tue 24 Nov 2015, 10:22 am

Coxy001 wrote:Easiest money I'll ever make:  

Wlad 1-3: 17/2
Wlad 4-6: 11/2

£50 at 17/2 = £475
£50 at 11/2 = £325

Glass chin. Average fighter. Gonna get splattered.

Don't do it! Even Alex Leapai went five rounds and he was appalling. Try the last six rounds!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 24 Nov 2015, 10:35 am

Fury is going to have to time Wlad coming in........Let's face it Wlad's chin is pretty poor...Rocked by a jab a couple of fights ago...

Not a lost cause..

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Post by Coxy001 Tue 24 Nov 2015, 10:41 am

hazharrison wrote:
Coxy001 wrote:Easiest money I'll ever make:  

Wlad 1-3: 17/2
Wlad 4-6: 11/2

£50 at 17/2 = £475
£50 at 11/2 = £325

Glass chin. Average fighter. Gonna get splattered.

Don't do it! Even Alex Leapai went five rounds and he was appalling. Try the last six rounds!

Fury is going to come charging in and will get times. He won't be looking to just survive like most opponents!

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Post by hazharrison Tue 24 Nov 2015, 10:54 am

Are we all missing a trick here?

Wladimir has feasted on smaller men throughout his career, who have bloated up to try and match his heft.
Most were defeated (controlled) by Klitschko long before the first bell.
Klitschko won't be able to hold and grapple Fury.
Fury has the spirit, the guts to fight Klitschko hard (something he hasn't encountered since Sam Peter had him all over the show ten years ago).
Fury's younger, quicker and fresher (with the better engine).
If Fury goes down, he's shown the ability to get back up and keep ticking.

Any upset alarm bells ringing?

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Post by AdamT Tue 24 Nov 2015, 10:56 am

Haz I like your way of thinking and hope that Fury can bring it.

Wlad has been very good, but he won't have the usual advantages. I still think he wins a decision with his ability, but would like Fury to pull it off.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 24 Nov 2015, 11:05 am

Funny thing with heavies is that it only takes one shot........

Clubfighter Snipes nearly dethroned the great Larry....Oddsmakers weren't even taking bets on the fight..

Wlad walks on to one .....Who knows..


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Post by TopHat24/7 Tue 24 Nov 2015, 11:29 am

Is Fury's power really that much though? Sanders flatten Wlad but had serious power.

Fury only 'retired' Chisora, for example, who Haye splattered, needed a dodgy, almost illegal, move to stop Cunningham and couldn't dent (admittedly durable) Kingpin who AJ wiped out in 2 rounds.

Fury needs to wind up his punches to get the power, there's no snap and I don't think he'll get the chance versus Wlad.

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Post by kingraf Tue 24 Nov 2015, 12:23 pm

hazharrison wrote:

If Wlad doesn't land a big one then I think you'll see him look more of a wet lettuce than ever before. Fury won't be intimidated, he won't fold and he'll show Wlad plenty of speed, movement and workrate.

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Think I better switch to watching fights on HD.... Never seen those from Fury Shocked Shocked
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Post by Guest Tue 24 Nov 2015, 12:27 pm

Fury to be outclassed and annihilated within 6 rounds...30,000 vehicles to be vandalized in the car park afterwards, Fury's family/entourage to be rounded up and sent to the Middle East to wage their own personal war on I.S.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 24 Nov 2015, 12:37 pm

Think he'll have a go though...Unlike some other fighters..

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Post by AdamT Tue 24 Nov 2015, 12:43 pm

I have stuck up for Wlad more than most, but you would think he was Ali, the way some are portraying him.

He is 40 years old and usually holds many physical advantages over opponents. I am in no way calling Fury world class, but he is bigger, younger and hungry fighter that can box a wee bit when required.

I would love him to get the upset. Imagine how big fights could be with AJ, Wilder and maybe even Haye. The heavyweight division needs change.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 24 Nov 2015, 1:29 pm

Povetkin, Pulev, Chagaev, Peter and numerous others had balls before they fought Wlad but soon found out his power and jab is something they've not come across before.

Wlad within 3 in an easy one sided jab induced beat down.

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Post by hazharrison Tue 24 Nov 2015, 1:39 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Povetkin, Pulev, Chagaev, Peter and numerous others had balls before they fought Wlad but soon found out his power and jab is something they've not come across before.

Wlad within 3 in an easy one sided jab induced beat down.

Would you like to wager Fury goes more than 3 rounds (and does far better than you've predicted)?

Loser leaves the board?

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 24 Nov 2015, 1:42 pm

I'm not that childish to really care if I predict a fight wrong.

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Post by Herman Jaeger Tue 24 Nov 2015, 2:33 pm

Cheerful sort aren't you Hammer.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 24 Nov 2015, 2:37 pm

That kind of wager would add a little spice to the fight on Saturday though in all fairness...


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Post by quentins_monkey Tue 24 Nov 2015, 2:45 pm

Coxy001 wrote:Easiest money I'll ever make:  

Wlad 1-3: 17/2
Wlad 4-6: 11/2

£50 at 17/2 = £475
£50 at 11/2 = £325

Glass chin. Average fighter. Gonna get splattered.

Even putting £50 on 6-9 and 10-12 as well, the least you'll profit is £50 and the most is £275 (presuming of course that it doesn't go the distance)... Cool

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Post by Pedro147 Tue 24 Nov 2015, 2:47 pm

Fury has never impressed me in any of his fights, even at British level. Was gifted a result against John McD along the way. Even Price, despite his glassy limitations, at least looked good against poor opposition.

Despite having the physical advantages such as height and reach, he doesn't fight to these advantages, similar to how Paul Williams fought.

Wlad will find him quite easily and Fury doesn't have enough power to keep him off. Wlad inside 6 with 3 or 4 knockdowns along the way.

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Post by Guest Tue 24 Nov 2015, 3:01 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:That kind of wager would add a little spice to the fight on Saturday though in all fairness...

It's about the only thing that would

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Post by Nico the gman Tue 24 Nov 2015, 3:36 pm

Klitschko in 6,but here's hoping Fury pulls off the shock.

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Post by Dipper Brown Tue 24 Nov 2015, 3:53 pm

Can't make a case for Fury. He paws with a job at the distance and can't see him getting close enough to Wlad without getting a right hand for his troubles, which will be enough.

Agree with what Hammer says about all the good will in the world going out the window as soon as he starts getting hit. Could end up going into his shell like Haye.

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Post by compelling and rich Tue 24 Nov 2015, 6:36 pm

im torn between fury coming charging in and getting tagged early and it ending there or wlad doing his usual petrified job of hugging someone every time they come near to a shut out points win

im going to go wlad wide points win

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Post by Lance Tue 24 Nov 2015, 8:39 pm

Wlad won't want to end it early. German audiences don't like that.

Fury is a fairly cautious fighter. Never went for a finish against Chisora. Expect him to move backwards whilst jabbing. Wlad to close him down in the latter rounds. Fury will panick and get stopped around the 9th

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Post by Duty281 Tue 24 Nov 2015, 8:40 pm

Wlad by a late TKO.

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Post by rapidringsroad Tue 24 Nov 2015, 8:47 pm

Wlad by early stoppage and then he can retire and make room for A.J. to take over for a bit.

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Post by Rowley Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:23 pm

Wlad points. For all his talk he'll go into his shell once he takes a few and gets an appreciation of Wlad's power.

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Post by Rodney Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:49 pm

Wlad points also. Love to see Tyson pull it off but find it hard to envisage him winning this one - Fury isn't going to go gung-ho and he isnt bad enough to be sparked out early.

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Post by SugarRayBray Wed 25 Nov 2015, 12:13 am

Wlad via disintegration in about 7. Total mismatch.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Wed 25 Nov 2015, 9:11 am

hazharrison wrote:Are we all missing a trick here?

Wladimir has feasted on smaller men throughout his career, who have bloated up to try and match his heft.
Most were defeated (controlled) by Klitschko long before the first bell.
Klitschko won't be able to hold and grapple Fury.
Fury has the spirit, the guts to fight Klitschko hard (something he hasn't encountered since Sam Peter had him all over the show ten years ago).
Fury's younger, quicker and fresher (with the better engine).
If Fury goes down, he's shown the ability to get back up and keep ticking.

Any upset alarm bells ringing?

Totally agree he can win it, I just don't think he will, Wlad always performs when people annoy him, remember Pulev?

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Wed 25 Nov 2015, 9:34 am

In what world is Fury quicker than Wlad anyway because it sure isn't the real world nor does getting up against Cunningham mean a damn thing when it comes to getting hit by Wlad. I understand people want to try and big up the fight because Fury is 'British' but he has no hope.

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Post by hazharrison Wed 25 Nov 2015, 10:06 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:In what world is Fury quicker than Wlad anyway because it sure isn't the real world nor does getting up against Cunningham mean a damn thing when it comes to getting hit by Wlad. I understand people want to try and big up the fight because Fury is 'British' but he has no hope.

I think he could be a shade quicker - we'll see Saturday I guess.

Fury's been knocked down, wobbled, fought through exhaustion - he's been through adversity. That all helps him here.

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