Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread V

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 17 Jan 2016, 7:24 pm

First topic message reminder :

Time for Carolina to pull out some starters me thinks

by GSC Mon 31 Oct 2016, 9:59 pm

The Browns got Jamie Collins and a 5th for Barkevious Mingo and essentially a high 4th in traded with NE

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 31 Oct 2016, 10:53 pm

GSC wrote:The Browns got Jamie Collins and a 5th for Barkevious Mingo and essentially a high 4th in traded with NE

Gonna watch 2014 playoff highlights and pretend none of this ever happened

by GSC Tue 01 Nov 2016, 9:51 pm

Meanwhile Trent Williams joins Lane Johnson watching the next 4 games

by Lowlandbrit Wed 02 Nov 2016, 2:45 pm

Vikings' season just keeps getting crazier, apparently Norv Turner has resigned as OC.

by Number-25 Wed 02 Nov 2016, 3:07 pm

GSC wrote:Meanwhile Trent Williams joins Lane Johnson watching the next 4 games

So disappointing... You can't overstate just how huge a blow it is for us. The Patriots might be able to handle losing their best player for 4 games but we are definitely not the Patriots. For a team with as little margin for error as us, it likely means we're toast.

by **Pr4wn** Wed 02 Nov 2016, 6:39 pm

Apparently Collins was asking for Von Miller money. Serves him right for getting greedy. He went to sleep with the Pats and woke up winless.

Pretty hilarious if you ask me.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 02 Nov 2016, 8:13 pm

Collins said he wasn't worried about going from a super bowl contender to a winless organisation and said the Browns "feels different" to the Pats

Suppose more money for less work is a decent enough deal for him

by skins4ever Thu 03 Nov 2016, 12:26 am

Number-25 wrote:
GSC wrote:Meanwhile Trent Williams joins Lane Johnson watching the next 4 games

So disappointing... You can't overstate just how huge a blow it is for us. The Patriots might be able to handle losing their best player for 4 games but we are definitely not the Patriots. For a team with as little margin for error as us, it likely means we're toast.

No facts as yet (in fact very little detail from the NFL or Redskins), but rumours are he missed a test not failed one. Either way, pretty dumb. Crying or Very sad

by **Pr4wn** Fri 04 Nov 2016, 4:23 am

Buccaneers were pathetic. O-line were all turnstiles and both Winston and Evans got injured in garbage time. Season over. Again.

by GSC Fri 04 Nov 2016, 9:25 am

The worst part were those unis .

Ew

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 04 Nov 2016, 9:32 am

The Bucs stink. What is there to get excited about there?

Good job they spent a 2nd rounder on a kicker

by GSC Fri 04 Nov 2016, 9:35 am

Eh they have something at QB even if Winston still has a way to go. Beyond that a handful of talented players.

by **Pr4wn** Fri 04 Nov 2016, 4:50 pm

Winston is a great QB and he'll only get better. The guy is only 22 years old. Also, Evans is the most underrated receiver in the NFL. He has two more TD catches than anyone else this season.

Other than that, McCoy is great, Kwon is good, David is good but the rest of our defence stinks. The team is poorly coached, giving away a huge number of penalties. We're down to our fourth and fifth string RBs, we have no receivers outside of Evans and our offensive line is a complete joke, specifically at LT.

It's quite clear that the owners aren't too bothered, not while they're pulling in such vasts sums of money from elsewhere. Tempted to jack it all in and follow another sport tbh. The NFL isn't what it used to be in general.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 04 Nov 2016, 10:23 pm

Jameis Winston is nowhere near being a great QB yet

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 07 Nov 2016, 1:04 am

That was a heck of a fun week 9 (even if some of it was just horribly bad funny)

by skins4ever Sat 12 Nov 2016, 7:10 pm

Being off sick this week (horrible bout of flu) I watched the Browns game yesterday. Now I don't think anyone wants to go 0-16, 1st pick or not, but I have to question pulling Kessler out and installing McCown. Albeit neither QA was likely to beat the Ravens with a porous OL like that, at least Kessler was keeping them in the game with minimal mistakes. McCown came in and effectively threw it away. I'm not sure the Browns are not seeing that #1 pick as worth more than avoiding all the insults from a winless season. I certainly can't see who they could beat in their last games, so I reckon they have 0-16 pretty much nailed on.

by crazy_dave23 Sun 13 Nov 2016, 6:49 pm

Ugh... Green Bay...

by Number-25 Sun 13 Nov 2016, 7:29 pm

LOL... Redskins up 14-0 early in the 2nd quarter... then they remember who they are and revert to being the Redskins again and go in at halftime trailing 21-14.

Great coaching Jay and Joe!

by GSC Sun 13 Nov 2016, 7:35 pm

Not sure what's more frightening in GB. Rodgers regression or what's been exposed due to it

by Number-25 Sun 13 Nov 2016, 8:27 pm

And in the least surprising news of the day, the Jets vs Rams game has been diabolical.

by Number-25 Sun 13 Nov 2016, 9:01 pm

Big win for the Redskins! Had to have that one, especially if Philly can make that result stick against Atlanta.

Could do with the offense finishing more of those drives off though. It's cost is already this season but we got away with it today. Credit to the defense though... holding Minnesota scoreless in the 2nd half after the momentum swing of the 2nd quarter was huge.

by GSC Sun 13 Nov 2016, 9:07 pm

The Rams win a nailbiter 9-6.

Highlights include an 80 yard punt.

by GSC Sun 13 Nov 2016, 9:13 pm

Fairly routine win. Scoreboard makes it seem far closer than it was, the Falcons aren't good.

by GSC Sun 13 Nov 2016, 9:28 pm

The NFC North is Detroit's to lose.

by Number-25 Sun 13 Nov 2016, 9:30 pm

The Falcons are sneaky bad... getting a lot of hype this year but they've got 4 losses now. Still a good win for the Eagles though - needed that one to avoid sliding into a bit of a hole at 4-5.

by Number-25 Sun 13 Nov 2016, 9:40 pm

Hard not to play the "what if" game as a Redskins fan.... we're so close to being 7-2 were it not for throwing away the Detroit game in the last minute and Hopkins' missed OT field goal in London.

5-3-1 is pretty good for us though.

by GSC Sun 13 Nov 2016, 9:41 pm

We'd be 8-1 If you wanna play the what if game. You are what your record says you are at the end of the day

by **Pr4wn** Sun 13 Nov 2016, 9:53 pm

Winston is going to be such a great QB.

by Number-25 Sun 13 Nov 2016, 10:11 pm

GSC wrote:We'd be 8-1 If you wanna play the what if game. You are what your record says you are at the end of the day

Agreed... Redskins could easily have dropped the games against Baltimore and NY so 5-3-1 is a fair reflection of what we are and the season we're having.

by Number-25 Sun 13 Nov 2016, 10:13 pm

Ezekiel Elliott with an 83 yard TD reception. Bugs me how he keeps on making plays!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 14 Nov 2016, 3:06 am

That pats defensive sequence before the half was utterly embarrassing

Why the f*ck are you only rushing two people at any point in time, let alone against the seahawks. Patricia is out of his depth

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 14 Nov 2016, 3:07 am

Pr4wn wrote:Winston is going to be such a great QB.

Not as good as Mariota tho - what a talent

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 14 Nov 2016, 4:50 am

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:That pats defensive sequence before the half was utterly embarrassing

Why the f*ck are you only rushing two people at any point in time, let alone against the seahawks. Patricia is out of his depth

Only time they got a stop was when Seattle couldn't execute in the red zone properly. Emotionless, conservative rubbish on that side of the ball. Seattle thoroughly deserved that win

by **Pr4wn** Mon 14 Nov 2016, 2:09 pm

It's almost as though you used to have two great defensive playmakers that are no longer on the team.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 14 Nov 2016, 4:44 pm

Pr4wn wrote:It's almost as though you used to have two great defensive playmakers that are no longer on the team.

Whilst pivotallyobviously that's a factor - biggest one last night was coaching. Patricia got schooled by Bevell, he was far far too conservative

by GSC Mon 14 Nov 2016, 4:46 pm

Easier to be aggressive when you have 2 pro bowl defenders. Coaching to mask a lack of talent is often viewed as conservative.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 14 Nov 2016, 4:51 pm

GSC wrote:Easier to be aggressive when you have 2 pro bowl defenders. Coaching to mask a lack of talent is often viewed as conservative.

Rushing two in a two minute drill isn't coaching to mask talent. It's conservative bullsh*t. Those pro bowlers haven't gone from the secondary.

Either way we're still well on course for the #1 seed with our schedule and the AFC West still all mainly to play each other. Got time to works it out

by GSC Mon 14 Nov 2016, 4:53 pm

They sure aren't playing like pro bowlers.

by **Pr4wn** Mon 14 Nov 2016, 5:13 pm

Again, it's almost as though two amazing players in your front 7 were making average secondary players look great.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 14 Nov 2016, 5:34 pm

McCourty, Butler and Chung ain't average. Admittedly Logan Ryan has always been up and down.

by GSC Mon 14 Nov 2016, 6:08 pm

Patrick Chung isn't good.

by Number-25 Wed 16 Nov 2016, 12:46 pm

I like Osi Umenyiora as a pundit, generally, but on the BBC's NFL show last night he had Atlanta as his 5th best team in the league just now.... really??? With that defense, the overreliance on Matt Ryan and a 6-4 record???

by GSC Wed 16 Nov 2016, 1:16 pm

Eh they still have an elite offense I guess.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 16 Nov 2016, 1:20 pm

Well he used to play for them (and he's a crap pundit) - they're probably top 10 overall so not too far off.

Pats, Dallas, Seattle, Oakland, Kansas, Denver all better - similar level to Philly, NYG, Pittsburgh id say

by Number-25 Wed 16 Nov 2016, 1:23 pm

It hasn't been elite enough in almost half of their games this season.

by Number-25 Thu 17 Nov 2016, 10:23 pm

I've just read Tony Romo's speech from the other day... I mean fair play to him for accepting reality and all that but come on, that speech makes you wanna puke! It's like something straight out of the cheesiest Hollywood movie ever!

by **Pr4wn** Thu 17 Nov 2016, 10:30 pm

Dallas could get a pretty price for him still, I bet.

by GSC Fri 18 Nov 2016, 7:09 am

He's broken, I wouldn't.

by **Pr4wn** Fri 18 Nov 2016, 2:01 pm

None of us would. But some NFL GMs would.

by skins4ever Fri 18 Nov 2016, 4:24 pm

I suspect he's going to retire. He's a back up in Dallas now, and where else will he go where he could start for a SB contender? Maybe somewhere like Denver (I doubt they'll bail on Siemian yet though) just missing a good QB, but there aren't many going to be willing to kick the tyres.

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