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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 09 Feb 2016, 12:48 pm

First topic message reminder :

The ICC have run some poor events in yesteryear but this is already taking the biscuit


No tickets on sale still, reports Delhi are pulling out as a host and Pakistan might not even be allowed to play. Oh and Australia have already announced their squad

But everything is "progressing smoothly" according to the latest ICC press release...

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Post by djkbrown2001 Wed 30 Mar 2016, 4:06 pm

England game to lose. They will win this with an over to spare.

England vs India finals.

With india to win the finals.

NZ peak too early it would seem

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Post by temporary21 Wed 30 Mar 2016, 4:06 pm

What a response from the first ten overs. Props, englands bowling has been patchy, but thats a great performance

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 30 Mar 2016, 4:06 pm

England will be absolutely delighted with that finish, just one boundary in the last four overs, which went for nothing at all. 153 feels below par to me, but NZ's bowling has comfortably been their strong suit so far... Right, running home from work to be home in time for the chase Very Happy

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Post by KO-KING Wed 30 Mar 2016, 4:07 pm

Englands game to lose, 154 should be chased, pitch slowedslowed last 6, but dew should come into play though to cancel it out

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Post by dummy_half Wed 30 Mar 2016, 4:08 pm

Wow - Last 4 overs has seen NZ score 20 for the loss of 5 wickets. Major turn-around leaving England chasing what appears to be an under-par 154.

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Post by Duty281 Wed 30 Mar 2016, 4:09 pm

Excellent stuff from England, and unsurprising to see New Zealand struggle. Regular wickets was the key.

Should be a doddle of a chase on this pitch and England can then take their place in the final against Chris Gayle (or India). Nothing dramatic.

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Post by VTR Wed 30 Mar 2016, 4:10 pm

That's outstanding from England at the end. Jordan has grown into the role and must be the most improved player in the tournament

154 is not an easy chase, but unlikely to get a much better chance of making a final than being presented with that as a target

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Post by guildfordbat Wed 30 Mar 2016, 4:13 pm

Unlike Ko-King and Mr Brown, I would hesitate to say it's our game to lose now but I would agree with MfC that England must be absolutely delighted with the finish. Brilliant stuff! Favourites in my book, yes, but still more than a ton and a half to score ....

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Post by Gooseberry Wed 30 Mar 2016, 4:13 pm

Gotta love Stokes. His talk before hand sounded a bit full of bluff and bluster but he really does bring his A game when the pressure is on.

Think most people would agree England have the edge here, but its far from a given. Corking match.

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Post by KO-KING Wed 30 Mar 2016, 4:16 pm

England should start of cautious, until dew kicks in

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Post by Duty281 Wed 30 Mar 2016, 4:27 pm

Roy has the right idea. Batter the hell out of the target early on; never give the Kiwis a foothold or a degree of expectation.

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Post by Gooseberry Wed 30 Mar 2016, 4:28 pm

Think Roy just made it Englands to lose form the first over!

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Post by guildfordbat Wed 30 Mar 2016, 4:29 pm

MfC - hope you're back in time to see my boy le roi king !

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Post by dummy_half Wed 30 Mar 2016, 4:36 pm

Right approach from Roy (can't say much about Hales - 1 from 1). Get runs on the board early and the rest can bat with less pressure.

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Post by Duty281 Wed 30 Mar 2016, 4:42 pm

49/0 off four overs. True statement of intent.

105 needed off 96 balls.

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Post by Gooseberry Wed 30 Mar 2016, 4:45 pm

42 off 18 for Roy

(picks jaw up)

I had been a mild sceptic.

England need a shade of 6 an over with all wickets remaining...softer ball or not it would be weak to lose it from here.

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Post by Duty281 Wed 30 Mar 2016, 4:52 pm

Roy's first T20I fifty. Great innings in such a pressure scenario.

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Post by djkbrown2001 Wed 30 Mar 2016, 4:53 pm

England peaking at the right time . Walk on the park from here.

NZ missed a trick. Should have opened with the spinners. Take pace off the ball.

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Post by guildfordbat Wed 30 Mar 2016, 4:56 pm

Maiden 50 for le roi king in t20 internationals. Excellent innings surely putting us well on the way to a final place. As the Surrey boys here will testify, I've been a Roy supporter for about six years - delighted for him to have his day in the Indian sun. As well as his power hitting, he's in some ways a very unselfish batsman which often goes unrecognised.

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Post by ShahenshahG Wed 30 Mar 2016, 4:57 pm

This reminds me of the time Pakistan openers toyed with NZ in the semi final...then they got murdered by the Aussies in the final.

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Post by ShahenshahG Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:00 pm

me and my f*cking gob.

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Post by KO-KING Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:06 pm

Roys batted really well, rode his luck early but charged on

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Post by dummy_half Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:09 pm

I think Hales suffered a bit from a lack of the strike and seeing Roy obliterating the bowling at the other end. Thought he had to get in on the act and didn't hit it as well as he can.

Anyway, 98 from the first 10 overs - would take a collapse of England cricket proportions to not see it home from here .. Oh...

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Post by guildfordbat Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:14 pm

''If he bats 12 overs, we win the game'' - Alec Stewart at the Oval last year in response to a member's moan about Roy's approach to domestic t20s.

12 gone here and Roy's still there on 78. Just 44 more needed. Get ready to open the bar, Corporal!

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Post by ShahenshahG Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:16 pm

Well done GB. Laugh

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Post by GSC Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:16 pm

This is a SA tie choke if they dont get home from here. This is the England strategy in a nut shell.

If somebody fires, they'll score big.
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Post by djkbrown2001 Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:16 pm

Wanted Roy to made a century. Good knock lad.

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Post by guildfordbat Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:16 pm

Mea culpa but more than enough damage done to New Zealand.

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Post by KO-KING Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:17 pm

God sake

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Post by ShahenshahG Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:17 pm

Oh dear god no

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Post by djkbrown2001 Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:18 pm

Like I said. Why did they not open with the spinners and elliot?

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Post by djkbrown2001 Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:20 pm

Morgan should drop himself for the final. Let root captain the finals.

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Post by KO-KING Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:22 pm

Better not do a Bangladesh here, finish it before final over

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Post by temporary21 Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:29 pm

Still no panic, its less than a run a ball. Even three quick wickets wont put NZ favouites

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:36 pm

Start the car!

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Post by djkbrown2001 Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:38 pm

Wow with 3 overs to spare . I said with an over .

Well done lads. NZ peaked too early england at the right time.


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Post by ShahenshahG Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:38 pm

Waheyyy

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Post by temporary21 Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:38 pm

Tough on NZ, thought they were the form team of the tourny. but the last 6 overs or so have cost them this. England knowing when to peak, they have made a real habit of that

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Post by temporary21 Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:40 pm

Extraordinary theyve made this final. They have a free lunch in Calcutta, knowing theyve become a top team mid tournament, and made a mockery of what happened in SA

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Post by Duty281 Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:42 pm

Good win. Expected, yes, but I didn't anticipate a sound thrashing.

Play like that in the final - there should be no obstacle to England's success. And wouldn't it be amusing if England, of all the possible nations, were the first to be double T20 World Champions?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:51 pm

Wow! Can't wait to see the highlights later, great performance from England, in particular Jason Roy.

Completely exceeded all expectations. Well done boys
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:51 pm

Well that was easy Very Happy

Fantastic knock from Roy, absolutely the right approach, get ahead of the game, so any later nerves can be dealt with. Missed the first four or five overs unfortunately, so the best of his innings, but will catch the highlights. I haven't been a fan for as long as guildford has, admittedly, but have always supported Roy since he first broke into the England side, and wanted him in the ODI side earlier. Clearly he has that match-winning X-factor, and he's shown it on a couple of occasions here in this tournament. Players like him are worth persevering with (prior to the SA game his international T20 record was spectacularly poor for a player of his ability), because when they do click they become a real asset to the side. Other more recent examples for England would include Buttler (whose initial foray into T20s and the 50 over stuff was not great either), and Hales in ODIs.

150 felt below par at halfway, and so it proved, emphatically so. England even had time for a bit of a wobble, and still got through with three overs to spare. Loved the emphatic finishing from Buttler too, none of this easing to the target, again IMO the right approach, as underlined by Nasser's "England will want to finish before the last over" comment.

Definitely England's best all-round performance of the tournament. To state just how good a win it is, NZ had won their last 6 and 9 of their last 10 leading into this game.

The trend of no team going unbeaten through a world T20 tournament continues...

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Post by Strings Philander Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:51 pm

Stunning!

What more can you say?

Ali changed the momentum of the match with his first over. Important wicket, great catch, cheap over to exert the first bit of pressure that NZ couldn't deal with.
Death bowling astounding!
Roy ruthlessly barbaric with decent support from Hales
Root and Buttler never in doubt.

On cloud 9 at the moment.
What a performance!

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Post by Gooseberry Wed 30 Mar 2016, 5:53 pm

Congratulations to the chap who described england as rank outsiders.

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Post by Strings Philander Wed 30 Mar 2016, 6:05 pm

On Switch Hit a few weeks back, George Dobell suggested England's production of quality T20 players rubbishes from the current set-up rubbishes any argument that City Franchise cricket would be a positive step for the English game. (Not a quote - but that's the gist)

This was pre this World T20 even starting. Does this World T20 performance so far go some way to adding credence to his argument?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 30 Mar 2016, 6:08 pm

Big fan of Buttler casually coming in on a hat trick ball and smacking 32 off 17
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 30 Mar 2016, 6:09 pm

Strings Philander wrote:On Switch Hit a few weeks back, George Dobell suggested England's production of quality T20 players rubbishes from the current set-up rubbishes any argument that City Franchise cricket would be a positive step for the English game. (Not a quote - but that's the gist)

This was pre this World T20 even starting. Does this World T20 performance so far go some way to adding credence to his argument?

I think there's a happy medium between the current status and franchise.

It's pretty ridiculous that in this day and age that every t20 blast game isn't at least on a live feed online somewhere.
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Post by SimonofSurrey Wed 30 Mar 2016, 6:10 pm

Ever since he was a young(er) player, Jason Roy has always looked good in every form of the game, but seemed to find daft ways of getting out rather than being dismissed. That is the sign of a huge talent in need of a better temperament. It would appear his temperament is coming on now as he has fewer rushes of blood at key moments and appears utterly unfazed by potential pressure: eg his best innings this tournament v S Africa and now NZ.  

Whisper it quietly, but the word sarf of the rivah is that Roy - along with several other up and coming young Surrey players of great promise - has benefited hugely from some wise and generous guidance from their experienced some time team mate, one Kevin Pietersen. Well done KP.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 30 Mar 2016, 6:17 pm

Olly wrote:Big fan of Buttler casually coming in on a hat trick ball and smacking 32 off 17

But think how much quicker England would have won had Lendl Simmons been playing for them. #replacementoverseasbatsman #IPLisweirdsometimes

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Post by Strings Philander Wed 30 Mar 2016, 6:43 pm

Olly wrote:
Strings Philander wrote:On Switch Hit a few weeks back, George Dobell suggested England's production of quality T20 players rubbishes from the current set-up rubbishes any argument that City Franchise cricket would be a positive step for the English game. (Not a quote - but that's the gist)

This was pre this World T20 even starting. Does this World T20 performance so far go some way to adding credence to his argument?

I think there's a happy medium between the current status and franchise.

It's pretty ridiculous that in this day and age that every t20 blast game isn't at least on a live feed online somewhere.

Agree - that's a pretty easy fix though isn't it?
Get one of the betting companies on board - give them rights to stream non-Sky games.
The in-play betting profits would probably pay the sum Sky would charge for rights wouldn't it?

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