Showtime unveils spring/summer boxing schedule featuring Leo Santa Cruz vs. Carl Frampton

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Looks like California or L.A.

That's a really great fight. Can't wait!

AlexHuckerby wrote:

Hammersmith harrier wrote:It's ok then for Alvarez to not fight GGG then I presume?

Yes because I think that's the biggest and most attractive fight available and would probably do more PPV buys than the Khan fight. The Khan fight is also a real soft touch, a guy who started as a LW and is generally seen as a small WW coming up against one of the biggest LMws I've ever seen, who is a good sized MW anyway. Big difference in my book.

Any fight Alvarez has is lucrative for him as he is the money man, I could just say that the reward isn't worth the risk for him so carry on fighting other people, exactly the same scenario.

You were justifying the decision Rowley.. Something if one remembers correctly you weren't so keen on doing in the recent past..

Me.. If Frampo chases the money good luck to him..It's a tough game.

But be consistent.....Anyway let's not argue.

I can't see many other fights breaking 1M PPVs though. I see your point and it makes boxing seem almost paradoxical. Difference being though, Rigondeaux doesn't bring in any real money to the table. GGG does. I think if someone brings in big money, is the nearest rival, there's not many more excuses barring networks etc. The fight with GGG makes sense in this world of boxing, so it should be damned if it isn't made this year, the fight with Rigo doesn't.

I have not justified it, I have put forward the reasons given by Barry Mcguigan. Given he is Frampton's manager and promoter they are somewhat central to Carl's future plans. I expressed that I can see where Barry is coming from but all that means is I can read and understand things, is not the same as agreeing with them.

Rowley rather clearly just said what McGuigans view of it was, he never gave his own personal opinion on whether it was right or wrong.

Alvarez is the one who brings in big money, he's making in excess of $12mil for the Khan so why would he risk that for GGG, that's right because his rival is a fan favourite the very same reason why Frampton gets away with ducking Rigondeaux and LSC's avoidance of the best in his division.

Rowley 's tone has become more conciliatory towards cherry picking

Hammersmith harrier wrote:

catchweight wrote:Hammersmith arguing for the sake of arguing again methinks. I remember him justifying Stevenson swerving Kovalev because he was getting better paid to avoid him.

Frampton v LSC is cracking 50/50 fight with the potential to be explosive

Might want to get your facts straight before starting that crap again, I justify Stevenson ducking Kovalev because he's racist.

No no, this was before the whole racist row. Not surprised you have forgotten your own argument again though.

GGG is the biggest money fight, GGG is the toughest fight. So we should crack down on that fight being made as it is realistic. Rigo is not the biggest money fight, Rigo is the toughest fight, Rigo doesn't make much sense, but there is also a lot of other good options and Frampton has chosen one that is a good option, that is also a very tough fight. Canelo hasn't chosen a tough option, they are massively different scenarios. As fans if we see a fight that is feesable and should get made then we should jump up and down for it, but other fights like the Rigo fight, simply put, there's no money in it, so it isn't feesable, so most fans aren't jumping up and down for it.

AlexHuckerby wrote:GGG is the biggest money fight, GGG is the toughest fight. So we should crack down on that fight being made as it is realistic. Rigo is not the biggest money fight, Rigo is the toughest fight, Rigo doesn't make much sense, but there is also a lot of other good options and Frampton has chosen one that is a good option, that is also a very tough fight. Canelo hasn't chosen a tough option, they are massively different scenarios. As fans if we see a fight that is feesable and should get made then we should jump up and down for it, but other fights like the Rigo fight, simply put, there's no money in it, so it isn't feesable, so most fans aren't jumping up and down for it.

Most fans don't know who Rigondeaux is. This is the problem, he has proved himself to be the best in his division but now nobody wants to fight him, yet Frampton is walking around as a "champion".

The argument for money is a little bit like the argument football fans have when a player deserts a club for more money, it's a short career etc. etc.

This argument should be the argument their accountants have, not the fans.

huw wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:GGG is the biggest money fight, GGG is the toughest fight. So we should crack down on that fight being made as it is realistic. Rigo is not the biggest money fight, Rigo is the toughest fight, Rigo doesn't make much sense, but there is also a lot of other good options and Frampton has chosen one that is a good option, that is also a very tough fight. Canelo hasn't chosen a tough option, they are massively different scenarios. As fans if we see a fight that is feesable and should get made then we should jump up and down for it, but other fights like the Rigo fight, simply put, there's no money in it, so it isn't feesable, so most fans aren't jumping up and down for it.

Most fans don't know who Rigondeaux is. This is the problem, he has proved himself to be the best in his division but now nobody wants to fight him, yet Frampton is walking around as a "champion".

The argument for money is a little bit like the argument football fans have when a player deserts a club for more money, it's a short career etc. etc.

This argument should be the argument their accountants have, not the fans.

Rigondeaux is one of those who needs him, avoid him at all costs fighters.

The bonafide world champion at the weight shouldn't really be avoided.......

People say he doesn't bring money but the fact of the matter is Frampton loses as does Quigg....

If the other champion was turd and as marketable as Rigo they'd fight him like Hatton fought Maussa...

Call it for what it is.....A duck..

If I was Frampo's manager I'd avoid him too......Always said Boxing is a business..

But let's use the same stick for everybody..

huw wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:GGG is the biggest money fight, GGG is the toughest fight. So we should crack down on that fight being made as it is realistic. Rigo is not the biggest money fight, Rigo is the toughest fight, Rigo doesn't make much sense, but there is also a lot of other good options and Frampton has chosen one that is a good option, that is also a very tough fight. Canelo hasn't chosen a tough option, they are massively different scenarios. As fans if we see a fight that is feesable and should get made then we should jump up and down for it, but other fights like the Rigo fight, simply put, there's no money in it, so it isn't feesable, so most fans aren't jumping up and down for it.

Most fans don't know who Rigondeaux is. This is the problem, he has proved himself to be the best in his division but now nobody wants to fight him, yet Frampton is walking around as a "champion".

The argument for money is a little bit like the argument football fans have when a player deserts a club for more money, it's a short career etc. etc.

This argument should be the argument their accountants have, not the fans.

Yes, but it's called being realistic. I would like to see Frampton Vs Rigo, but it isn't realistically ever going to happen.

I'd rather watch Frampo v LSC rather then Rigo against either one as i believe its a more entertaining fight