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Post by Luke Fri 22 Apr 2016, 12:53 pm

First topic message reminder :

The dates and venues of the 4 nation's have been announced. They are -

Fri 28th Oct - Scotland v Australia - Craven park Hull.

Sun 30th Oct - England v New Zealand - John Smiths stadium Huddersfield.

Sat 5th Nov - England v Scotland & Australia v New Zealand - Ricoh Arena Coventry.

Fri 11th Nov - Scotland v New Zealand - Derwent Park Workington.

Sun 13th Nov - England v Australia - Olympic Park London.

Sun 20th Nov - final at Anfield Liverpool.
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Post by The Beast Wed 14 Jun 2023, 8:57 pm

Shocking news Zane Tetevano has undergone heart surgery following a stroke suffered whilst training with Leeds. Best wishes to him for a quick recovery.

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Post by The Beast Fri 30 Jun 2023, 7:39 pm

Widnes have parted ways with Head Coach John Kear. Sadly I have to question if this is his last coaching appointment.

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Post by The Beast Sun 06 Aug 2023, 8:13 am

Castleford, now bottom of the table following a defeat by Huddersfield sack Head Coach Andy Last. I am sure they will be nervously checking the resurgent Wakefield's result at Hull before a massive game on Friday night against them at Belle Vue on 18th August.

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Post by The Beast Sun 06 Aug 2023, 8:43 am

Widnes announce that their new coach from 2024 is Allan Coleman moving from Swinton Lions.

Oldham have sacked Head Coach Stuart Littler

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Post by The Beast Mon 07 Aug 2023, 8:24 pm

Eventful Monday.

Warrington have named Sam Burgess as Head Coach from 2024. Must admit I did not see that coming, not for a minute. Good luck to Sam however.

Featherstone Rovers following defeat to Halifax sack coach Shaun Long. This I am slightly less surprised over. Yes they are top but given their squad there have been a few unconvincing performances this year.

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Post by Luke Wed 09 Aug 2023, 6:01 am

Sean Long is rumoured to be off to be a number 2 at Warrington. Which may explain the decision slightly.
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Post by Luke Wed 16 Aug 2023, 1:58 pm

Foe the next 2 years the challenge Cup final will be in June.
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Post by Luke Wed 16 Aug 2023, 2:15 pm

An international calander of sorts has been announced.

2023
will see an inaugural Pacific competition (featuring Australia,New Zealand, Samoa etc).
And Tonga will be touring England for 3 tests.

2024
Pacific Cup.

2025
Will see an ashes tour down under. Both men and women

2026
World Cup (somewhere in the southern hemisphere), very disappointingly in Mt opinion this will only be a 10 team tournament. With the qf from the last World Cup already qualified.

2027
New Zealand tour of England.
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Post by The Beast Thu 17 Aug 2023, 8:25 pm

Luke wrote:Foe the next 2 years the challenge Cup final will be in June.

I have mixed views but can see the logic. Certainly having the CC final on the day the soccer season starts is a tough ask for marketing dept.

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Post by Luke Mon 21 Aug 2023, 4:54 pm

Personally I think having more distance between challenge/grand finals is needed. But also think make it a bank holiday weekend.
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Post by The Beast Sat 26 Aug 2023, 10:48 am

There are new proposals from Sky Sports regarding a new TV deal. ANY game could potentially shown live with all games needing Video Ref facilities. This does add in with apparent IMG/Franchising requirements being for LED lights/Large Screens.

Will this result in more money coming into the Sport.....no, of course not.

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Post by Luke Sat 26 Aug 2023, 1:43 pm

The Beast wrote:There are new proposals from Sky Sports regarding a new TV deal.  ANY game could potentially shown live with all games needing Video Ref facilities.  This does add in with apparent IMG/Franchising requirements being for LED lights/Large Screens.

Will this result in more money coming into the Sport.....no, of course not.

Be interesting, as in my opinion your stopping the late/I can go to that fans. Who will just stay at home and watch it, plus it tends to lend that again clubs will be playing Fri, which stops people.
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Post by Luke Tue 12 Sep 2023, 2:28 pm

Some good news on the international front. After the bad news of a 10 team we.
On all fronts.

In the Men's.
France will travel to Belgrade to face Serbia on sept 24.

Woman's
England will play Wales before the final England/Tonga test at Headingley on November 4th.

WHEELCHAIR.
England men's will play France at first direct arena on Nov 5th.
But the biggest news, is the USA have arranged 5 games for the start of next year. Playing Wales in 2 games (2nd&3rd of feb) in South Carolina. And then 3 games v Australia (2 on 28th feb & 1st march) in Las Vegas.
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Post by Luke Sun 17 Sep 2023, 1:34 am

In depressing news,

London Skolars have dropped out of League 1. They will continue in the southern conference.
This leaves 9 clubs in league 1, the sooner they put 2/3 clubs in SL and join league 1 with the championship the better in my opinion.
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Post by The Beast Thu 21 Sep 2023, 8:26 pm

Luke wrote:In depressing news,

London Skolars have dropped out of League 1. They will continue in the southern conference.
This leaves 9 clubs in league 1, the sooner they put 2/3 clubs in SL and join league 1 with the championship the better in my opinion.

Yes, agreed.

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Post by The Beast Mon 02 Oct 2023, 6:26 pm

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Luke wrote:In depressing news,

London Skolars have dropped out of League 1. They will continue in the southern conference.
This leaves 9 clubs in league 1, the sooner they put 2/3 clubs in SL and join league 1 with the championship the better in my opinion.

Yes, agreed.

Apparently talks this week in relation to combining the Championship & League One. Sounds positive but unless SL allow 2 sides in I don't see a 23 team Championship working. Some talk of having a top tier of (for example 12) and lower of 11 but this strikes me as too many games or too few?

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Post by Luke Tue 03 Oct 2023, 5:21 pm

If your going the tier route, might as well just not promoted anybody. Way to do it in my opinion,  put all teams in a list down, have evens play each other twice, and odds once and vice verser.
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Post by Luke Tue 03 Oct 2023, 5:22 pm

And then the year afterwards sort it out, with sl upto 14.
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Post by Luke Fri 13 Oct 2023, 5:53 pm

In even more terrible news for the game. 

Newcastle are the latest club to drop out, leaving league 1 with 8 teams now.
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Post by The Beast Fri 13 Oct 2023, 7:03 pm

Luke wrote:In even more terrible news for the game. 

Newcastle are the latest club to drop out, leaving league 1 with 8 teams now.

Yes, terrible news and baffling a club seemingly heading in exactly the right direction certainly pre-Covid.

I see Hunslet have released a statement suggesting League One as it stands is unsustainable, with 8 teams it is hard to argue unless they play each other 3 times. I like the idea of an expanded Championship but unless 2 go up to SL I don't see it, too many games.

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Post by Luke Sat 14 Oct 2023, 9:52 pm

The Beast wrote:
Luke wrote:In even more terrible news for the game. 

Newcastle are the latest club to drop out, leaving league 1 with 8 teams now.

Yes, terrible news and baffling a club seemingly heading in exactly the right direction certainly pre-Covid.

I see Hunslet have released a statement suggesting League One as it stands is unsustainable, with 8 teams it is hard to argue unless they play each other 3 times.  I like the idea of an expanded Championship but unless 2 go up to SL I don't see it, too many games.
 Apparently the championship clubs voted against joining divisions, so was going to continue as was. Now, don't know. But don't think there will be any changes next year.
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Post by The Beast Sun 15 Oct 2023, 11:59 am

Luke wrote:
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Luke wrote:In even more terrible news for the game. 

Newcastle are the latest club to drop out, leaving league 1 with 8 teams now.

Yes, terrible news and baffling a club seemingly heading in exactly the right direction certainly pre-Covid.

I see Hunslet have released a statement suggesting League One as it stands is unsustainable, with 8 teams it is hard to argue unless they play each other 3 times.  I like the idea of an expanded Championship but unless 2 go up to SL I don't see it, too many games.
 Apparently the championship clubs voted against joining divisions, so was going to continue as was. Now, don't know. But don't think there will be any changes next year.

I think (could be wrong) that there was a proposal to change the Championship into 2 conferences which to be honest I don't think the clubs were ever going to agree to. League One with teams playing each other 3 times to my mind is the most realistic outcome.

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Post by The Beast Sun 15 Oct 2023, 12:39 pm

I don't want to be negative but.....

Sky to show ALL SL games

I have concerns,

1. They are paying less money to the sport

2. by showing all games are they going to change the regular kick off times? Will this result in a loss of income via reduced ticket sales?

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Post by The Beast Sat 28 Oct 2023, 10:05 am

IMG Gradings have been announced which makes interesting (if not somewhat in parts troubling reading).

I am not surprised in relation to the teams receiving the highest Grade A status however the story is the B grades. As it stands Castleford will be relegated albeit they appear to have made errors in their own submissions with London who appear to have close to no chance of staying in SL in 2025 irrespective of their on-field performance in 2024.

I suspect Wakefield's score will rise as they finish the new stand at Belle Vue so I think they are safe, it feels ridiculous to think that IF there is a vulnerable side in the 12 it could be Leigh???

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Post by Luke Tue 31 Oct 2023, 5:54 pm

The Beast wrote:IMG Gradings have been announced which makes interesting (if not somewhat in parts troubling reading).

I am not surprised in relation to the teams receiving the highest Grade A status however the story is the B grades.  As it stands Castleford will be relegated albeit they appear to have made errors in their own submissions with London who appear to have close to no chance of staying in SL in 2025 irrespective of their on-field performance in 2024.

I suspect Wakefield's score will rise as they finish the new stand at Belle Vue so I think they are safe, it feels ridiculous to think that IF there is a vulnerable side in the 12 it could be Leigh???

IMG Gradings
Always a problem when you take things from onfield to make other things more valuable.  London being so low, And other b placings are just baffling.
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Post by The Beast Thu 09 Nov 2023, 8:12 pm

And just when I thought we might see some positive International news Samoa refuse the chance to play a 3 match series in England next Autumn

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/67372025

I have to say we are looking somewhat isolated at the moment Sad

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Post by Luke Fri 10 Nov 2023, 12:49 pm

After what has been happening in league 1, the format for next year has been reveled. 

The championship is staying the same, League 1 is looking at a 9 member league (Newcastle reforming in some shape). Will play every one home and away, and some loop fixtures. If Newcastle don't reform then they play everyone 3 times.

Now the interesting part is the 1895 Cup. Where other than Toulouse and Cornwall (not sure why Cornwall aren't involved). It will now be groups of 3, if championship are against a league 1 side they will be away, play each other 1. Winners and runners up go through to quatre finals. This in my opinion should have been how it was from the start.
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Post by The Beast Sun 12 Nov 2023, 9:23 am

Sadly it appears that Bradford are not the only club hammered by stadium issues.

Salford Red Devils Statement

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Post by Luke Tue 21 Nov 2023, 4:11 pm

It is believed that magic weekend next season will be at Elland Road. It won't be known till Thurs/Fri when the SL fixtures are announced which weekend it will be on. 
Strange choice, with nit alot around Elland Rd.
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Post by Luke Tue 21 Nov 2023, 9:33 pm

Luke wrote:It is believed that magic weekend next season will be at Elland Road. It won't be known till Thurs/Fri when the SL fixtures are announced which weekend it will be on. 
Strange choice, with nit alot around Elland Rd.

It is at Elland Road, on the weekend of the 17/18th Augest.
Sat games will be, Hull v London, Wigan v St Helens & Warrington v Leeds.
Sun games Leigh v Salford (could be best game of the rd), Catalans v Hull KR & Castleford v Huddersfield in that order.
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Post by The Beast Sun 26 Nov 2023, 10:04 am

Elland Road smells a bit like the concept about to be put out to pasture.

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Post by The Beast Sun 26 Nov 2023, 10:05 am

Some bad news Salford Red Devils have been placed into Special Measures, if they cannot resolve the stadium issue pretty quickly I very much fear for them.

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Post by The Beast Today at 8:27 am

News to catch up on;

Big changes coming (not just IMG), the tackle height will be lowered in Academy/Reserve and Grassroots in 2024 that will be extended to Professional leagues in 2025. It appears to have been poorly received in some quarters including former and current players, certainly some tackling technique changes will be required to prevent games turning into a complete farce.

Lowering Tackle Height

St. Helens coach Paul Wellens has been fined for making critical comments made post Leigh cup game in July. Not massive news (except for him losing £2k) but why did this take so long???

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