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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed May 04, 2016 7:59 pm

First topic message reminder :

Won't be on here again before the fight so here it is...

1. Khan is like a poor man's Tommy..The only way you beat him is by burying him with a shot.....Canelo for me is more of an accumulator like JCC..

2. Not sure about Canelo's gifts as a pressure fighter...

3. Khan like Leonard v Hagler has the skills to mess him about and frustrate him...Beat him to the punch and dissuade his advances !!.

4. Fancy an upset here....Khan wins the early rounds and spoils late he can do it...Of course he could get shafted...But a moral victory would be a victory for team Khan profile wise..

5. If Khan gets blown out.....Forget I ever wrote this thread..

Khan W 12..

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Post by Guest Fri May 06, 2016 8:24 am

Nore Staat wrote:It's a strange boxing match knowing that one opponent is too light to trouble the heavier opponent punch wise and that the only way the lighter opponent wins is by running away for 12 rounds while trying to come in and out quickly with pitter patter punches to steal the rounds ... with the alternative being the lightweight guy gets flattened the moment the heavier guy gets in the first good clear punch.  It doesn't appeal.  They should fight guys in their own weight category in which proper boxing / fighting can be practised.

Good comparison from Milkyboy - with the "invincible" McGregor from MMA jumping a few weight categories only to get flattened in the second round.
You mean Leonard/Hagler?

Anyway, just supposing Khan does win. Where would it ranking in British boxing feats? Above Turpin/SRR, above Honey/Curry, above Williams/Tyson Fury/Wlad?

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Post by Guest Fri May 06, 2016 9:20 am

It would have to be the best result of a British boxer because Canelo goes up a weight between weighing and the fight. Effectively Khan would be fighting three weights above his normal fighting weight.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Fri May 06, 2016 9:59 am

Absolutely will be one of the best British wins of all time

He is a huge underdog, if he wins he will get all the credit he deserves

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Post by jimdig Fri May 06, 2016 2:01 pm

DAVE667 wrote:Rooting for Khan after his brilliant political quip. "This may be the last time me and Alvarez fight in America if Donald Trump becomes President"

Brilliant. But I'm guessing it's a dave quote rather than a khan quote.

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Post by jimdig Fri May 06, 2016 2:04 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
Nore Staat wrote:It's a strange boxing match knowing that one opponent is too light to trouble the heavier opponent punch wise and that the only way the lighter opponent wins is by running away for 12 rounds while trying to come in and out quickly with pitter patter punches to steal the rounds ... with the alternative being the lightweight guy gets flattened the moment the heavier guy gets in the first good clear punch.  It doesn't appeal.  They should fight guys in their own weight category in which proper boxing / fighting can be practised.

Good comparison from Milkyboy - with the "invincible" McGregor from MMA jumping a few weight categories only to get flattened in the second round.
You mean Leonard/Hagler?

Anyway, just supposing Khan does win. Where would it ranking in British boxing feats? Above Turpin/SRR, above Honey/Curry, above Williams/Tyson Fury/Wlad?

If Khan wins Canelo is face first irish/Mexican plodder.

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Post by milkyboy Fri May 06, 2016 2:19 pm

jimdig wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Rooting for Khan after his brilliant political quip. "This may be the last time me and Alvarez fight in America if Donald Trump becomes President"

Brilliant. But I'm guessing it's a dave quote rather than a khan quote.

Actually, it's a Khan quote... Though presumably someone scripted it for him. Dave, you moonlighting again?

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Post by Steffan Fri May 06, 2016 2:31 pm

milkyboy wrote:
jimdig wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Rooting for Khan after his brilliant political quip. "This may be the last time me and Alvarez fight in America if Donald Trump becomes President"

Brilliant. But I'm guessing it's a dave quote rather than a khan quote.

Actually, it's a Khan quote... Though presumably someone scripted it for him. Dave, you moonlighting again?
Another Khan quote once was "Yeah Nathan Cleverly...good young British fighter...well British but...he's from Welsh" so I doubt very much Khan even knows who Trump is prior to being given this joke by someone (not Dave)

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Post by Happytravelling Sat May 07, 2016 10:43 am

Stupid comment from Khan about the Londoner....

Did anybody as the weigh in? I only saw the highlights so not the best to go on but khan didn't look that'small' compared to Canelo. He also appeared relaxed.

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Post by Baby faced assassin Sat May 07, 2016 11:26 am

Khan looked impressive he was quite big without looking soft

But canelo never looks much bigger at the weigh ins but he bloats up loadssss and will be about 175 tonight

But yea I'm impressed with khan's Physique, he must have known about this fight long long before it was announced as it's not easy bulking up you need time to do it properly
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Post by BoxingFan88 Sat May 07, 2016 11:31 am

Alvarez looked badly drained imo

Compared that to the cotto weigh in and it's a huge difference

Don't think it's going to matter in this fight but his days at caneloweight are numbered

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Post by AdamT Sat May 07, 2016 11:59 am

Khan will look soft. He still dehydrated a bit. Canelo will smash his flabby tummy. Easy nigh for Alveraz.

Won't last 4.

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Post by Kareem61 Sat May 07, 2016 3:27 pm

Just watched the weigh in and thought Khan looked good. Really excited for this fight, just hope it lives up to my expectations and is competitive regardless of the outcome.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat May 07, 2016 8:13 pm

The problem is that it almost certainly won't be competitive.

Alvarez in 4. Far too big far too strong.

Hope I'm wrong, but this will/should be a massacre.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat May 07, 2016 8:16 pm

The weigh in is a little bit deceptive, Alvarez is a strong 155lbs with a rock solid chin whereas Khan was a built up 147lber without a good chin, come fight night there will be a very clear size and strength difference.

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Post by Guest Sat May 07, 2016 8:42 pm

Khan's forearms are puny compared to Alvarez.  Also compare their necks - Khans is slender and long whereas Alvarez is thick and shortish.  Probably one of the reasons why Alvarez has yet to be stopped whereas Khan is more easy to hit in the neck and chin to go down. Mike Tyson was famous for having "no neck".

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Post by AdamT Sat May 07, 2016 9:26 pm

Holyfield was another fighter with a stout neck.


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Post by hazharrison Sun May 08, 2016 7:04 am

hazharrison wrote:Citing Leonard-Hagler is way off the mark.

1. Khan can't hold a shot (Leonard had a terrific chin).
2. Canelo is no Hagler, granted, but he also doesn't fight anything like the great man. Alvarez is a counter puncher in the main, who fights in bursts ala De la Hoya.
3. Khan has terrible ring intelligence and completely lacks savvy. Leonard was the complete opposite.
4. Khan is pretty poor technically. Leonard was obviously a superb technician.

I'd liken this to Roy Jones vs Glen Johnson: quick, vulnerable guy who doesn't have the best fundamentals vs a solid technician, bit of a plodder but with the power to put the other fellow to bed.

Alvarez KO6.

Bingo!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun May 08, 2016 8:30 am

Yep I was wrong... Laugh

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Post by Coxy001 Sun May 08, 2016 8:35 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Yep I was wrong... Laugh

As usual

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Post by hazharrison Sun May 08, 2016 8:35 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Yep I was wrong... Laugh

Just a bit.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun May 08, 2016 9:14 am

Khan may have let me down but you two haven't...

Got my other prediction right....That the first two posters on this thread would be you two...

Have a nice day...

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sun May 08, 2016 10:13 am

I see no improvement in khan at all

He has both hands down when it lands

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Post by AdamT Sun May 08, 2016 12:48 pm

Khan will take the Brook fight next, and get decimated.

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Post by milkyboy Sun May 08, 2016 12:53 pm

Coxy001 wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Yep I was wrong... Laugh

As usual

To be fair, truss thought he'd last 12 rounds, coxy thought he'd last 10 seconds. He lasted 6 rounds, the predictions were on about a level. In fact as most (excepting the paid for real ones at the fight) judges had Khan ahead... You could say Truss' prediction had more merit than coxy's.

Bit like saying Stalin was better than hitler!

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Post by AdamT Sun May 08, 2016 1:02 pm

Coxy still picked the winner, so I don't agree at all.

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Post by Rowley Sun May 08, 2016 1:11 pm

AdamT wrote:Coxy still picked the winner, so I don't agree at all.

Am not sure milky's post was intended to be taken literally.

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Post by hampo17 Sun May 08, 2016 1:24 pm

Didn't stay up for this one, but have seen the knock out. According the official cards it was quite close up until the stoppage, is this something you guys agree with?

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Post by hazharrison Sun May 08, 2016 1:24 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Khan may have let me down but you two haven't...

Got my other prediction right....That the first two posters on this thread would be you two...

Have a nice day...

You want to bank that in the predictor league.

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Post by hazharrison Sun May 08, 2016 1:28 pm

PaulHv2 wrote:Didn't stay up for this one, but have seen the knock out. According the official cards it was quite close up until the stoppage, is this something you guys agree with?

Khan made the faster start, which was always going to be the case. Canelo took his time, found his range, set Khan up with feints and BADINGO. A light heavyweight knocked out a blown up light welter.

Terrible physical mismatch. Another GBP special. Canelo needs to fight someone his own size and, judging by their weights ten days out from a fight, that guy was ringside last night.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun May 08, 2016 1:36 pm

Fairplay to Khan for showing ambition...

Nothing to feel ashamed about..

Plenty of bollox on the kid..Thank heavens he's not a Hearn fighter..

Bill last night was putrid..Almost as bad as the commentating..

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Post by AdamT Sun May 08, 2016 1:40 pm

For such an elite fighter, he spends a lot of time on his back.

Nothing to do with race, I think he's an arrogant sod. I only like cockiness, when it's backed up.

I'm a happy man with the result. No point lying.

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Post by hazharrison Sun May 08, 2016 1:41 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Fairplay to Khan for showing ambition...

Nothing to feel ashamed about..

Plenty of bollox on the kid..Thank heavens he's not a Hearn fighter..

Bill last night was putrid..Almost as bad as the commentating..

I had to mute the Crolla fight. It's so bad it's untrue.

The undercard was flat out bullying. Who wants to watch people being bullied? Garbage.

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Post by Mr Bounce Sun May 08, 2016 1:47 pm

I have to admit that I am impressed with the way Khan handled this fight. He started fast as expected, outboxed Alvarez for the majority of the bout and could have cruised to an easy UD were it not for that pesky full-on middleweight punch detonating on his face. The guy has a hefty pair and is rarely in a dull fight.

On his day he can outbox anyone but at this weight he cannot take the big shots. One thing is for certain - this fight did more for Khan than it did for Alvarez.  I fully expect Alvarez to make some noises about being ready to face GGG then make some excuse about weight.

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Post by Born Slippy Sun May 08, 2016 2:00 pm

Mr Bounce wrote:I have to admit that I am impressed with the way Khan handled this fight. He started fast as expected, outboxed Alvarez for the majority of the bout and could have cruised to an easy UD were it not for that pesky full-on middleweight punch detonating on his face. The guy has a hefty pair and is rarely in a dull fight.

On his day he can outbox anyone but at this weight he cannot take the big shots. One thing is for certain - this fight did more for Khan than it did for Alvarez.  I fully expect Alvarez to make some noises about being ready to face GGG then make some excuse about weight.

Yet was behind on two judges' cards (4-1 on one of them)! He would probably have lost on points - travesty though that would have been. In this case, I don't see the issue as his chin - more or less any middleweight caught by that punch would have been out. It was his concentration/defence which cost him.

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Post by AdamT Sun May 08, 2016 2:07 pm

It's his iq that lets him down. He has the speed not to get caught, but not the intelligence to stick to a game plan.

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Post by Rowley Sun May 08, 2016 2:12 pm

hazharrison wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Fairplay to Khan for showing ambition...

Nothing to feel ashamed about..

Plenty of bollox on the kid..Thank heavens he's not a Hearn fighter..

Bill last night was putrid..Almost as bad as the commentating..

I had to mute the Crolla fight. It's so bad it's untrue.

The undercard was flat out bullying. Who wants to watch people being bullied? Garbage.

The undercard was that bad I was looking forward to Chisora. How bad does what has preceded it have to be to make Chisora a welcome sight?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun May 08, 2016 2:17 pm

Tommy Coyle fight last night was the most appalling..integrity-less commentating I think I've ever listened to...

Viewer expects a bit more than a Hearn PR man calling fights...

Watt should be ashamed of himself for sitting there and listening to the idiot without chiming in..

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Post by Knowsit17 Sun May 08, 2016 2:22 pm

Typical Khan defeat tbf. Physical endurance thin to non-existent (or glass-chinned to put it more bluntly) and a total lack of adequate shot-avoidance skills.

He's always had speed to burn, and yet throughout his career he has eaten so much leather from guys far slower and less agile. The warning signs were there from a very early stage. How was a guy who got decked by Willie Limond and Michael Gomez going to stand up at a level remotely close to Alvarez?

I'm starting to see parallels with Cleverly. Both had the basic skills to do well yet both are either too thick or too indisciplined to use those skills to fullest potential.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun May 08, 2016 2:49 pm

Khan has had a good career....

One of the best British fighters I've seen in 25 years...He's not as good as Calzaghe so what..

Let us not go over the top on the kid.

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Post by catchweight Sun May 08, 2016 2:56 pm

Khan did about s well as could be expected for what was a physical mismatch. Canelo needs to to start fighting guys his own size to prove he isnt just another Chavez jr relying on his weight and favourable treatment off the judges.

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Post by Rowley Sun May 08, 2016 2:58 pm

In the post fight interview he said he has no issues fighting Golovkin, and doing it at 160. Time will tell I guess but here's hoping, would guess that would be everyone's first choice.m

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Post by catchweight Sun May 08, 2016 3:04 pm

I would be surprised if Alvarez makes it half way against Golovkin. Hes too slow on his feet to away from Golovkin and he might look granite chinned againt fighters he outweighs but he wont against full blown middleweights I suspect.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun May 08, 2016 3:08 pm

I don't wanna hear this rubbish about Khan outboxing Cayellow before getting pamcaked by a lucky punch.

This was a dumb fight for Khan to take fuelled only by his over inflated ego which seemed reassurance that he belonged in the same category as the other elite names such as Mayweather, Pac man, and Canyellow.

Khan should have fought Brook won and then cleaned up the division.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun May 08, 2016 3:11 pm

Yep he should of fought Algieri again..

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Post by AdamT Sun May 08, 2016 3:12 pm

Truss he is not one of Britains greats.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun May 08, 2016 3:15 pm

Truss people like you said the same rubbish in the Garcia Khan fight.

Khan got Lord but he outclassed Garcia blah blah blah....

Khan still got dropped.

All this sympathy for Khan he as you love to put it Truss overachieved.


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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun May 08, 2016 3:17 pm

Khan got Lord but he outclassed Garcia.

Sorry

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun May 08, 2016 3:17 pm

Khan got koed


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Post by BoxingFan88 Sun May 08, 2016 3:22 pm

And people still think he can beat pacman

Hahahaha

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Post by hampo17 Sun May 08, 2016 3:27 pm

We moan constantly about guys avoiding the big fights, yet when this guy steps up and shows some balls he's called dumb. Some guys can't win I guess.

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