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Post by hazharrison on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 7:39 am

Incredible fight signed out of nowhere.

If only more leading fighters took Lomachenko's approach to risk taking/matchmaking.

I love Walters as a fighter but this could be the fight where Lomachenko truly arrives. Can't wait.

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 8:14 am

Just read this on reddit

AWESOME fight, absolutely cannot wait

Why can't more guys be like this

heard a rumour that Sam Eggington was offered the Danny Garcia fight!!!!! :/

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Post by AdamT on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 8:39 am

hazharrison wrote:Incredible fight signed out of nowhere.

If only more leading fighters took Lomachenko's approach to risk taking/matchmaking.

I love Walters as a fighter but this could be the fight where Lomachenko truly arrives. Can't wait.

This is easily one of the best fights out there. I am going for the better boxer, but Walters is a beast.

Awesome fight!

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Post by AdamT on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 8:46 am

BoxingFan88 wrote:Just read this on reddit

AWESOME fight, absolutely cannot wait

Why can't more guys be like this

heard a rumour that Sam Eggington was offered the Danny Garcia fight!!!!! :/

Who do you fancy to win??

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Post by milkyboy on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 8:53 am

Cracking fight, Walters has been pretty inactive, lomo has been taking keep busy fights so it's great they're getting it on.

November shaping up nicely... Lomo-Walters, ward kovalev...  Potentially degale-jack. Just need Joshua klitschko!

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Post by AdamT on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 8:54 am

It would be a great end to an otherwise pretty dire year.

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Post by Pedro147 on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 9:19 am

Wonder if Sky will pick this up or if it'll be Boxnation

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Post by Jermaine2015 on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 11:28 am

Unlike the ginger ducker Canelo, no one can doubt whether Lomachenko has balls. Guy isn't scared of anyone. Walters can punch, but Lomachenko's hand speed and footwork is different class. Backing the brilliant Ukrainian to take Walters to school.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 11:31 am

Assuming this will be in the middle of the night honestly never seen Lomachenko live before never watched a recording of any of his fights either literally only a minute or two here and there but this will be the one to stay up for. Want to see why so many rave about him also want to see how he copes with what I assume will be the most dangerous puncher of his career to date. We've always wanted this one but quite a surprise last night to see it announced

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Post by AdamT on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 11:46 am

Herman Jaeger wrote:Assuming this will be in the middle of the night honestly never seen Lomachenko live before never watched a recording of any of his fights either literally only a minute or two here and there but this will be the one to stay up for. Want to see why so many  rave about him also want to see how he copes with what I assume will be the most dangerous puncher of his career to date. We've always wanted this one but quite a surprise last night to see it announced

He's textbook. His movement and punch variety is so fundamentally sound. I enjoy watching him box.

I also enjoy watching Walters fight. Great stylistic matchup.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 12:13 pm

I'm guessing Walters will need a ko:

http://www.badlefthook.com/2016/5/3/11576622/nicholas-walters-explains-turning-down-career-high-offer-to-face

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Post by Guest on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 1:33 pm

Was only saying on here last week, that if Lomanchenko gets a good fight then it could help define the boxing year-let's hope that it does

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 1:47 pm

Amazing stuff.

Sure Truss will be on soon to tell us all a hundred reasons to denigrate Loma, being from a nasty 'red' countyr afterall....

However 99% of rational boxing fans will agree that the sport would be a thousand times healthier if all boxers had his approach.

Would still love him to go back and slap the sh!t out of the cheating pillock Salido though.....avenge that stain.

A win takes him top 10 p4p for me. Less than 15 fights at this rate he coud clean out FW, SFW and LW. Unbelievable.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 1:51 pm

I want to see him in with Mikey Garcia eventually

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Post by AdamT on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 1:54 pm

To be fair to Truss, Lomachenko has faced stiffer challenges than the other guy.

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Post by kingraf on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 2:07 pm

I could understand Walters' reticence to take the fight. He was robbed, mugged, hoodwinked, pick pocketed... However you'd like to call it, in his last fight. And that was as the A side.
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Post by BoxingFan88 on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 7:25 pm

kingraf wrote:I could understand Walters' reticence to take the fight. He was robbed, mugged, hoodwinked, pick pocketed... However you'd like to call it, in his last fight. And that was as the A side.

Salido beat Lomachenko in a close fight, so not really sure what he is getting at

I know he got robbed in the Sosa fight though

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Post by Jermaine2015 on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 8:13 pm

BoxingFan88 wrote:
kingraf wrote:I could understand Walters' reticence to take the fight. He was robbed, mugged, hoodwinked, pick pocketed... However you'd like to call it, in his last fight. And that was as the A side.

Salido beat robbed Lomachenko in a close con job of a fight, so not really sure what he is getting at

I know he got robbed in the Sosa fight though

Corrected that for you. Salido didn't win that fight in a month of Sundays. The ref was an embarressment to professional boxing, allowing Salido to continuously low blow Lomachenko and endless rabbit punching.

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Post by rapidringsroad on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 9:21 pm

First saw Lomachenko on the under card of the Mayweather Paquaio bout and was most impressed.I've never seen Walters fight it will be an interesting fight, one to look forward to.

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 7:27 am

Jermaine2015 wrote:
BoxingFan88 wrote:
kingraf wrote:I could understand Walters' reticence to take the fight. He was robbed, mugged, hoodwinked, pick pocketed... However you'd like to call it, in his last fight. And that was as the A side.

Salido beat robbed Lomachenko in a close con job of a fight, so not really sure what he is getting at

I know he got robbed in the Sosa fight though

Corrected that for you. Salido didn't win that fight in a month of Sundays. The ref was an embarressment to professional boxing, allowing Salido to continuously low blow Lomachenko and endless rabbit punching.

Let's chuck in the fact he was at least a whole weight class above even at weigh in let alone fight night.

You could see from the last 2 rounds that Loma's lack of pro experience cost him as he didn't realise how much had left in the tank in the championship rounds.

If he'd stepped up in the 7th or 8th like he did in the 11th he probably would have won pretty ok.

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Post by milkyboy on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 9:39 am

I'm not sure why people keep making excuses for lomo in the Salido fight. I don't recall him making any. One of the things I respect him for. He probably learnt more in that fight than all his amateur ones put together. A close defeat to a tough, spoiling, wily old pro he was giving weight to, where he adapted and finished on top hasn't harmed his career.

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 10:18 am

No excuses really. He lost and that's that. Lack of pro experience is what cost him.

But that doesn't mean we can't comment on the disgrace of both the refereerign and Salido's attitude & appraoch.

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Post by Pedro147 on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 10:28 am

Boxnation have added this to their schedule. Great fight to get.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 11:06 am

Bout time Boxnation had something their schedule hasn't exactly been overflowing recently.

Their late night shows nothing against Jim but I don't think they need to tart up the presentation Buncey has enough charisma to present it on his own with Lockett who's quite good and another guest whether that be Lillis or Jones or a guest appearance. Only thing is I wish they would get some nice comfy armchairs in the studio it looks like it would be quite tiring doing a shift in those chairs they got those chairs don't make me the viewer feel relaxed

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Post by milkyboy on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 11:38 am

Interesting point. I think comfy armchairs for presenters warrants a thread in its own right Hermy.

I say chesterfields. Formal, but comfortable and quintessentially British.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 11:44 am

Clearly they're working to a budget milky so you can get something quite nice at IKEA surely

Which leads me on to the studio, it needs better lighting and depth surely they can do better than that even a mural of maybe sitting in a skyscraper looking out over the city

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 12:21 pm

Jermaine2015 wrote:
BoxingFan88 wrote:
kingraf wrote:I could understand Walters' reticence to take the fight. He was robbed, mugged, hoodwinked, pick pocketed... However you'd like to call it, in his last fight. And that was as the A side.

Salido beat robbed Lomachenko in a close con job of a fight, so not really sure what he is getting at

I know he got robbed in the Sosa fight though

Corrected that for you. Salido didn't win that fight in a month of Sundays. The ref was an embarressment to professional boxing, allowing Salido to continuously low blow Lomachenko and endless rabbit punching.

He won on my card, I know for a fact he cheated a lot though

I might need to watch it again at some point, if I can stand watching the incompetence of the ref again

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Post by AdamT on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 12:42 pm

Having a loss isn't a bad thing, especially if it wasn't a knock out or lopsided. Lomachenko doesn't have a 0 to protect, so he should go all guns blazing and fight everyone.

Fighting Walters shows he is willing to do that. Credit to both guys looking to find out, who the best really is.

Some could follow their example.

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 1:31 pm

AdamT wrote:Having a loss isn't a bad thing, especially if it wasn't a knock out or lopsided. Lomachenko doesn't have a 0 to protect, so he should go all guns blazing and fight everyone.

Fighting Walters shows he is willing to do that. Credit to both guys looking to find out, who the best really is.

Some could follow their example.

Donaire has been doing this for a while and gets a lot of HATE

But yeah, great to see some boxers taking on the toughest challenges

Props to Walters as well, he has been fighting very good competition as well

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Post by AdamT on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 3:02 pm

BoxingFan88 wrote:
AdamT wrote:Having a loss isn't a bad thing, especially if it wasn't a knock out or lopsided. Lomachenko doesn't have a 0 to protect, so he should go all guns blazing and fight everyone.

Fighting Walters shows he is willing to do that. Credit to both guys looking to find out, who the best really is.

Some could follow their example.

Donaire has been doing this for a while and gets a lot of HATE

But yeah, great to see some boxers taking on the toughest challenges

Props to Walters as well, he has been fighting very good competition as well

Boxing needs these fights to happen. It should be happening automatically.

It's a sad state of affairs, when we applaud top guys for actually doing what they're supposed.

Just don't mention or blame certain fighters for this, because I wouldn't want QueenNadal for blaming me of ruining a thread. Cool

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Post by hazharrison on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 3:10 pm

milkyboy wrote:Interesting point. I think comfy armchairs for presenters warrants a thread in its own right Hermy.

I say chesterfields. Formal, but comfortable and quintessentially British.

We have a two-seater Chesterfield at home but no one ever sits on it!

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 3:19 pm

They're not doing terribly well at the minute couldn't you lend it to the boxnation studio?

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Post by milkyboy on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 3:21 pm

Two seaters lack a bit of slouch appeal for home use haz... Call boxnation and offer to sell it to bunce

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Post by AdamT on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 3:22 pm

BoxNation is pure dung! It does get some good international fights, but other than that, it is pure dung!!

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Post by milkyboy on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 3:23 pm

I'm on the same wavelength as hermy chin . That's pretty disconcerting... For both of us.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 3:25 pm

Part from the late night cards I've found Boxnation pretty poor lately how about showing classic black and white fights once a week for example anything to liven it up a bit

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Post by AdamT on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 3:26 pm

Herman Jaeger wrote:Part from the late night cards I've found Boxnation pretty poor lately how about showing classic black and white fights once a week for example anything to liven it up a bit

It's one of those, 'if no longer have it, you miss it' sort of deals.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 3:29 pm

milkyboy wrote:I'm on the same wavelength as hermy chin . That's pretty disconcerting... For both of us.

Fear not milky great minds think alike or should that be small minds rarely differ

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 3:34 pm

AdamT wrote:
Herman Jaeger wrote:Part from the late night cards I've found Boxnation pretty poor lately how about showing classic black and white fights once a week for example anything to liven it up a bit

It's one of those, 'if no longer have it, you miss it' sort of deals.


Honestly I don't think it's really progressed as a channel much lately, I've only really needed Williams Corcoran and Santa Frampton the last few months could have just got two one month contracts still this Loma Walters should be good Walters can box a bit too apparently though never seen him not just a banger but I'm expecting to witness a masterclass of the boxer nullifying the puncher Walters very dangerous though

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Post by AdamT on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 3:53 pm

I predict Loma, but walters is also undefeated and is one strong boy. Clash of styles. Both guys have ways to win.

It's hard to go against the superior talent though.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:11 pm

BoxingFan88 wrote:
AdamT wrote:Having a loss isn't a bad thing, especially if it wasn't a knock out or lopsided. Lomachenko doesn't have a 0 to protect, so he should go all guns blazing and fight everyone.

Fighting Walters shows he is willing to do that. Credit to both guys looking to find out, who the best really is.

Some could follow their example.

Donaire has been doing this for a while and gets a lot of HATE

But yeah, great to see some boxers taking on the toughest challenges

Props to Walters as well, he has been fighting very good competition as well

Has Walters though?

He's made his name beating two former Flyweights one of whom was years past his best and the other hasn't shown anything like his pre Rigondeaux form for a few years now.

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Post by milkyboy on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:26 pm

Herman Jaeger wrote:
milkyboy wrote:I'm on the same wavelength as hermy chin . That's pretty disconcerting... For both of us.

Fear not milky great minds think alike or should that be small minds rarely differ

I think we know the answer but should plead the fifth on that one Hermy

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:30 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
BoxingFan88 wrote:
AdamT wrote:Having a loss isn't a bad thing, especially if it wasn't a knock out or lopsided. Lomachenko doesn't have a 0 to protect, so he should go all guns blazing and fight everyone.

Fighting Walters shows he is willing to do that. Credit to both guys looking to find out, who the best really is.

Some could follow their example.

Donaire has been doing this for a while and gets a lot of HATE

But yeah, great to see some boxers taking on the toughest challenges

Props to Walters as well, he has been fighting very good competition as well

Has Walters though?

He's made his name beating two former Flyweights one of whom was years past his best and the other hasn't shown anything like his pre Rigondeaux form for a few years now.

He fought an undefeated guy who beat him in the amateurs in Miguel Marriaga

He knocked out Donaire (First one to do it) and Donaire can still hurt featherweights and he was a champion at that weight. Remember Donaire had him on queer street early on and had there been a few more seconds in that round he would have KOed him

He also beat Jason Sosa (regardless of the BS cards), who just knocked out Fortuna who everyone was saying was numero uno in the division

Not really sure what else constitutes as a good resume otherwise Erm

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:43 pm

Marriaga has done sod all in the pro game, had an irrelevant back story to it to make it sound more impressive.

Fortuna was never considered number one at all, he was seen as a decent option for Uchiyama and Miura until they both lost.

Decent spin but I'm still not seeing a good resume.


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Post by hazharrison on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 7:45 pm

If you can't enjoy this fight, you can't enjoy boxing (at least not in the conventional sense).

An absolute cracker of a fight.

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Post by AdamT on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 9:19 pm

Loma for the win Haz??

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Post by Pedro147 on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 10:03 pm

hazharrison wrote:If you can't enjoy this fight, you can't enjoy boxing (at least not in the conventional sense).

An absolute cracker of a fight.

This!

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Post by hazharrison on Fri 30 Sep 2016, 6:47 am

AdamT wrote:Loma for the win Haz??

I think so. He's special but Walters is a beast! This is one fight I would get up at 3 am to watch!

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Fri 30 Sep 2016, 8:37 am

hazharrison wrote:
AdamT wrote:Loma for the win Haz??

I think so. He's special but Walters is a beast! This is one fight I would get up at 3 am to watch!

Think I'll watch this one live instead of watching a recording

Pacquiao vs Vargas (Plus the great undercard)
Ward vs Kovalev
Lomachenko vs Walters

Potentially Joshua vs Klitschko, plus other heavyweights

Isn't Jack Degale slated for November as well?

WHAT A MONTH!

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Post by AdamT on Fri 30 Sep 2016, 9:28 am

BoxingFan88 wrote:
hazharrison wrote:
AdamT wrote:Loma for the win Haz??

I think so. He's special but Walters is a beast! This is one fight I would get up at 3 am to watch!

Think I'll watch this one live instead of watching a recording

Pacquiao vs Vargas (Plus the great undercard)
Ward vs Kovalev
Lomachenko vs Walters

Potentially Joshua vs Klitschko, plus other heavyweights

Isn't Jack Degale slated for November as well?

WHAT A MONTH!

I harp on about how great UFC is, but boxing is still better, WHEN THE FIGHTS ACTUALLY GET MADE!!

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