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Post by wheelchair1991 Tue 13 Dec 2016, 7:33 pm

Yes you read that correctly, in early 2017 Chris Eubank Jr is going to be on ITV PPV against Renold Quinlan for the IBO super middleweight strap.

Discuss

This is really taking the **** in my view

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Post by Guest Tue 13 Dec 2016, 8:17 pm

Agree - this is ridiculous!

PPV used to be for marquee fighters and fights. Now everybody wants to get in on the act - short termism and greed is killing this sport.

How about offering fights on normal TV to promote the sport to a larger audience - that's how the sport gains in popularity. It seems not one person in boxing cares about it's future.

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Post by wheelchair1991 Tue 13 Dec 2016, 8:20 pm

Spot on

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Post by BoxingFan88 Tue 13 Dec 2016, 10:37 pm

LMFAO I just read this on Facebook

HAHAHAHAHAHA

What is he playing at?

Big night of boxing?

LOL

It won't kill the sport if no one is stupid enough to buy it, if that's the headline can't imagine how bad the undercard will be!

All running scared of GGG, never seen a fighter ducked so much

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Post by mobilemaster8 Wed 14 Dec 2016, 12:08 am

Oh. My. God

What is this? Its has to be a joke. The IBO belt?! Quinlan?! ITV....Pay Per View?

In what world is Eubank a PPV fighter? How is this a legitimate world title fight.

Genuinely the guy is a bum..knows he can't mix it at top level...calls out all the big names and avoids them...and has enough arrogance to think he is PPV. Demands Hearn to put him on the big card...and has now gone and mixed with a free channel and made them introduce a PPV add on to show him fight a fookin nobody?!

This will be worse than Scott Quigg when he won his in the ring with a draw against nobody.

Absolute joke.

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Post by Herman Jaeger Wed 14 Dec 2016, 9:33 am

So they think Junior is a ppv fighter now just cos they mentioned Golovkin's name

This is up there with Eddie Hearn's level of low quality ppv  joke opponent for ppv

Real delusion on the part of team Eubank and I hope it turns fans away

Maybe Eubank Sr doesn't have as much belief in his son as he makes out who knows won't be buying this won't be watching shame really the kid's worth following but I don't like English's disregard for the fans

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Post by lfc91 Wed 14 Dec 2016, 9:37 am

No thanks.

Was a fan of Eubank, like his style and thought he had enough talent to at least grab an ABC. Won't be watching again if he thinks he should get PPV for this type of fight.

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Post by Herman Jaeger Wed 14 Dec 2016, 9:44 am

Is it true also that ITV want a whopping £22 or £25 HD?

That can't be right surely this is beyond cynical all round

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Post by Pedro147 Wed 14 Dec 2016, 9:52 am

I hope this absolutely bombs. I think that this is almost insulting to people putting it on PPV. They could've at least put a few free cards on first to try and build his profile. I've a feeling we'll see less and less fights being made.

You'll soon have Sky Sports/Sky Sports PPV, BT/Boxnation/PPV and now ITV PPV. Any decent fight now is going to be PPV and there's a potential that there'll be 10-12 PPV cards per year in the near future. And the only free to air fights will be rubbish undercard fights. Don't mean that in a bad way as I know they can be good fights with the fighters earning little money but any meaningful or title fight will soon be PPV.

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Post by milkyboy Wed 14 Dec 2016, 9:57 am

mobilemaster8 wrote:Oh. My. God

What is this? Its has to be a joke. The IBO belt?! Quinlan?! ITV....Pay Per View?

In what world is Eubank a PPV fighter? How is this a legitimate world title fight.

Genuinely the guy is a bum..knows he can't mix it at top level...calls out all the big names and avoids them...and has enough arrogance to think he is PPV. Demands Hearn to put him on the big card...and has now gone and mixed with a free channel and made them introduce a PPV add on to show him fight a fookin nobody?!

This will be worse than Scott Quigg when he won his in the ring with a draw against nobody.

Absolute joke.

Had to google the guy. Cornflakes belt. Laughable.

Moby, While I share many of your frustrations over junior, I don't imagine he made itv introduce a Ppv add-on! Suspect you'll find they're launching a channel and figured he's a marketable name, not tied to Hearn.

We could do with some Ppv's tanking. At the moment you can pick two guys off the street, call it a grudge and make it Ppv. These things are cyclical, people will eventually get bored... maybe the more we get in a short space of time the sooner it will happen, and promoters will have to make real fights again. Unfortunately, for now perception outweighs reality and the blissfully uninformed may well be happy to watch the great chris Eubank junior fight for a 'world title' providing they get all the sideshows and accoutrements that go with it.

Boxing in the U.K is no longer a sport for 'fans' it's Saturday night entertainment for the masses. It's frustrating but that's a free market economy at work and bitching about won't change it... not that it stops me obviously!

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Post by EX7EY Wed 14 Dec 2016, 10:46 am

This is why it gets right on my nerves when people defend garbage PPV by saying 'just don't buy iy then'. It's a bad attitude. We want the sport to be popular do we not? And it's not going to be popular if you end up with 10 PPV shows a year at an average of say £18. £180 a year, plus your normal subscriptions to watch a sport? It's a joke. For some of us, boxing is our number one sport and we are getting absolutely shafted because it's a sport that the majority of people like to dip in and out of. Most people just buy in to the event as opposed to actually following boxing. The only thing I will say about Eddies PPV sham on Saturday is that aside from the main event, the card as a whole made for good viewing and there were a lot of hours worth of entertainment. I think if the Burton Buglioni and Whyte Chisora fights didn't pan out the way they did it could quite easily have left an extremely sour taste though, except for the people that are smart enough to watch without buying, of course Wink

This is an absolute farce. As a fighter I quite like watching Eubank, he's spiteful and rough around the edges which makes for good viewing, or would have done had he took it to the next level. But instead of fulfilling his potential and trying to go somewhere in the sport all he and his idiot father are interested in is making easy money.

I like the idea of other networks trying to get in on the boxing scene. You would think that competition would make things better for the fans, apparently not. IBO belt, what an absolute farce. It's beyond a joke.

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Post by hazharrison Wed 14 Dec 2016, 10:51 am

I gather this will be the 4th promoter and 4th TV channel Eubank will have worked with in three fights.

They've burned a lot of bridges and I doubt Warren or Hearn would work with them now. They'll probably have better options at 168 and will be aiming for Degale due to the hilarious "beef" they had, when Senior made Junior vault the top rope to do a bit of sparring (and act like a general walloper during the session).

I've stopped second guessing boxing's market. I never would have imagined Froch could have filled Wembley, Haye could have pulled in so many viewers on Dave fighting a bodybuilder who'd learned to box on YouTube or Floyd Mayweather would become an attraction. So maybe Eubank will do amazing on ITV?

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Post by Herman Jaeger Wed 14 Dec 2016, 10:58 am

They should be building his fan base at this stage bad move from team Eubank imo what to$$er has put them up to this

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Post by Guest82 Wed 14 Dec 2016, 11:07 am

I can't see them even covering their marketing with the sales.

The hardcore fans know it is a rubbish fight and he's not even that recognisable to the casuals.

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Post by Pedro147 Wed 14 Dec 2016, 11:11 am

I actually think there'd be higher PPV figures if Eubank Senior made a comeback.

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Post by milkyboy Wed 14 Dec 2016, 11:23 am

Guest82 wrote:I can't see them even covering their marketing with the sales.  

The hardcore fans know it is a rubbish fight and he's not even that recognisable to the casuals.  

They'all just use the promo slots either side of ads on shows that are relevant to their target audience in the weeks running up to the fight. It's no real 'spend' to itv. Sky have created a model where their 'boxing' shows... ringside, gloves off etc, are their advertising. Nice work when you can get people to vuluntarily watch your adverts without them realising that's what they're doing.

Itv have bigger audiences but I doubt they have an appetite for the 'warm up' shows.

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Post by Herman Jaeger Wed 14 Dec 2016, 12:53 pm

Just a thought but do you think there's a market there milky for ITV to knock out ppv's for a fiver you know just the price of a beer and a packet of crisps?

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Post by Herman Jaeger Wed 14 Dec 2016, 1:01 pm

Lost respect for Eubanks though if this is their way of ducking Golovkin

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Post by BoxingFan88 Wed 14 Dec 2016, 1:23 pm

EX7EY wrote:This is why it gets right on my nerves when people defend garbage PPV by saying 'just don't buy iy then'. It's a bad attitude. We want the sport to be popular do we not? And it's not going to be popular if you end up with 10 PPV shows a year at an average of say £18. £180 a year, plus your normal subscriptions to watch a sport? It's a joke. For some of us, boxing is our number one sport and we are getting absolutely shafted because it's a sport that the majority of people like to dip in and out of. Most people just buy in to the event as opposed to actually following boxing. The only thing I will say about Eddies PPV sham on Saturday is that aside from the main event, the card as a whole made for good viewing and there were a lot of hours worth of entertainment. I think if the Burton Buglioni and Whyte Chisora fights didn't pan out the way they did it could quite easily have left an extremely sour taste though, except for the people that are smart enough to watch without buying, of course Wink

This is an absolute farce. As a fighter I quite like watching Eubank, he's spiteful and rough around the edges which makes for good viewing, or would have done had he took it to the next level. But instead of fulfilling his potential and trying to go somewhere in the sport all he and his idiot father are interested in is making easy money.

I like the idea of other networks trying to get in on the boxing scene. You would think that competition would make things better for the fans, apparently not. IBO belt, what an absolute farce. It's beyond a joke.

See this card is an exception, it should be slammed

Unless of course people buy it and enjoy it like they did last Saturday, at the end of the day boxing is entertainment

I have heard loads of people saying that the card on Saturday was well worth the money

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Post by hazharrison Wed 14 Dec 2016, 1:27 pm

Just read ITV will be showing a card from Preston on Jan 21.

All arranged via Richard Poxon - who I'm sure I read was Al Haymon's man in the UK. Could be a new PBC movement in the works.

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Post by EX7EY Wed 14 Dec 2016, 2:17 pm

BF88, to be fair I do agree that a nights worth of entertainment for £16.95 isn't that bad in the grand scheme. The issue arises more due to the fact that when you are already paying for sky sports and then they want more on top for something that really should be a regular card it jsut starts to take the p!ss after a while.

If the only way to look at it is as a nights worth of entertainment for £16.95 then regular boxing cards may as well just be scrapped and just put all boxing on PPV.

I wouldn't put it past Eddie to try and get a Whyte Vs Chisora rematch on PPV as a main event after what happened on Saturday. In fact it would not surprise me in the least.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Wed 14 Dec 2016, 5:52 pm

EX7EY wrote:BF88, to be fair I do agree that a nights worth of entertainment for £16.95 isn't that bad in the grand scheme. The issue arises more due to the fact that when you are already paying for sky sports and then they want more on top for something that really should be a regular card it jsut starts to take the p!ss after a while.

If the only way to look at it is as a nights worth of entertainment for £16.95 then regular boxing cards may as well just be scrapped and just put all boxing on PPV.

I wouldn't put it past Eddie to try and get a Whyte Vs Chisora rematch on PPV as a main event after what happened on Saturday. In fact it would not surprise me in the least.

But not everyone who buys Box Office has Sky

You get boxing on Sky as well as international cards sometimes

But Sky Sports offers more

I agree that the quality needs to step up though

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Post by compelling and rich Sat 17 Dec 2016, 12:20 pm

can see this doing terribly in the build up, and a training injury coming in to force it being moved. awful idea

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Post by The Mighty G Fri 06 Jan 2017, 8:43 pm

I'm hearing fairly valid/trustworthy rumours that this is off because ITV have pulled out and they can't find another broadcaster

Will update once/if I hear more.

Not a massive surprise I would say?
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Post by Pedro147 Fri 06 Jan 2017, 9:31 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/renold-quinlan-prepared-pull-out-9573128

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Post by The Mighty G Fri 06 Jan 2017, 9:34 pm

totally different angle/source/story Pedro but no smoke without fire perhaps?
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Post by BoxingFan88 Fri 06 Jan 2017, 10:02 pm

The fight poster is a bigger joke than the fight

Doesn't even have the champion on it

Eubank is a disrespectful clown

Anyone who buys it for a quid should question their life choices

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 06 Jan 2017, 10:32 pm

Eubank Sr was a staple on ITV if memory serves correctly...

They are trying to bypass the demanding fan and are hoping the Eubank name resonates...

If it is a success the chance of seeing any half decent boxing without forking out extra is pretty slim in the future...

Like Clev v Bellew......It's a test the water promotion..

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Post by BoxingFan88 Fri 06 Jan 2017, 11:31 pm

https://imgur.com/EsNBma0

Just an embarrassment to British boxing

So shameful

Bet Snr had full control of what that looked like

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 07 Jan 2017, 12:02 am

Hahaha quality.

Certainly won't be watching this. Will catch up on here once it's done. Won't last 6 rounds with Eubank completely outclassing this guy. Will genuinely be like a journeyman fight.

Shame and Sham for boxing.

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Post by Valero's Conscience Sat 07 Jan 2017, 12:43 pm

The fight is fine if an it is an undercard fight below a bigger fight.

Worse if a main event on terrestrial TV;

Terrible if PPV;

Damn right disgusting to be more than any other PPV in the UK!!!!

Never liked Jnr's attitude since he came on the seen, has only got worse with all bigb promoters falling out with him.

When he looks back on his career in 10 years time he will woefully regret his choices and being too close to his Dad who is not qualified for what he is doing.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 07 Jan 2017, 6:50 pm

In fairness to Eubank he is marketable...Lost to the only world class operator he has met and was then offered 3/5 million or so for GGG..

Maybe this promotion will surprise us all..If it goes ahead...We know there are plenty of Gullible Gordons around.

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Post by catchweight Sat 07 Jan 2017, 11:55 pm

Eubank Sr is a major liability. Behind the sophisticated act hes not a smart man. He squandered all his money and now hes tanking his sons career with all the major promotional outfits.

Eubank Jr needs to go it alone.

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Post by hazharrison Sun 08 Jan 2017, 8:37 am

BoxingFan88 wrote:The fight poster is a bigger joke than the fight

Doesn't even have the champion on it

Eubank is a disrespectful clown

Anyone who buys it for a quid should question their life choices

My God we're in trouble if we're referring to this guy as a champion aren't we?

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sun 08 Jan 2017, 9:17 am

just using the terms written on the poster

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Post by Rowley Sun 08 Jan 2017, 11:09 am

This whole promotion is odd. Piecing together the rumours on twitter it appears the undercard is on ITV4 with only the main event on PPV. Obviously good for us fans if we do get to see the undercard for free but an odd decision, when you're a bit on the fence about buying a PPV the strength of the undercard can sometimes be a determining factor, giving it away stops that being the case for this. You are limiting yourself exclusively to people who believe Eubank Quinlan is worth paying for, I suspect that number will be fairly limited.

The irony is the undercard is shaping up OK, Ryder Etches is chief support apparently and that's a very decent fight. Have to suspect this as a PPV is going to bomb, and dearly hope it does. Broadcasters need to get the message that no matter what they believe boxing fans will not just buy anything.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sun 08 Jan 2017, 11:47 am

On ppv

Either you have a mega fight main event

Or something like the magnificent 7 where there was at least meant to be 7 great fights

Only those two options really make sense to buy

It's going to crash and burn

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 08 Jan 2017, 12:01 pm

Bit worrying for fans over here if the disgrace known as the BBBC are recognising IBO type belts.

All we need are Hearn/Warren types sniffing out more easy belts for fighters of the calibre of Brian Rose..

That's if there are any Warren fighters that aren't number one in the WBO rankings.


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Post by BoxingFan88 Sun 08 Jan 2017, 12:13 pm

Haha well yeah

Casual fans might go for it....

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Post by BallchinianMuffwig Sun 08 Jan 2017, 1:31 pm

So does this mean jnrs going to be up at SMW from now on? Someone chuck him in with Callum Smith please

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 08 Jan 2017, 1:42 pm

If Jr gets decent numbers....He won't be fighting anybody with a pulse for years..

The IBO will be in sanction fee heaven and Sr knows all about bum of the month..

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sun 08 Jan 2017, 4:19 pm

Good fights at 168 for Jr

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Post by hazharrison Mon 09 Jan 2017, 5:58 pm

Rowley wrote:This whole promotion is odd. Piecing together the rumours on twitter it appears the undercard is on ITV4 with only the main event on PPV.  Obviously good for us fans if we do get to see the undercard for free but an odd decision, when you're a bit on the fence about buying a PPV the strength of the undercard can sometimes be a determining factor, giving it away stops that being the case for this. You are limiting yourself exclusively to people who believe Eubank Quinlan is worth paying for, I suspect that number will be fairly limited.

The irony is the undercard is shaping up OK, Ryder Etches is chief support apparently and that's a very decent fight. Have to suspect this as a PPV is going to bomb, and dearly hope it does. Broadcasters need to get the message that no matter what they believe boxing fans will not just buy anything.

Loving Etches vs Ryder - real crunch match for both. Have to fancy Ryder in that one (but I'll be shouting for Etches - lovely kid).

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Post by BoxingFan88 Mon 09 Jan 2017, 6:11 pm

Apparently the ppv is 12.95

Wouldn't pay 12p

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Post by Valero's Conscience Mon 09 Jan 2017, 6:47 pm

So they've dropped the price, not surprising!

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Post by rob-glos Tue 10 Jan 2017, 12:22 pm

Confirmed that the undercard will be on ITV4.

PPV for Eubank Jr fight.
So £13 to watch a mismatch for a joke title.

Nah, but thanks for the free undercard.

Kudos to Eubank Sr though... he has absolutely rinsed ITV

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Post by EX7EY Tue 10 Jan 2017, 12:45 pm

Strange strange move putting the undercard on free to air and Jr on PPV. The fights worth watching are on the undercard haha. Christian Hammer is not a bad rebuilding fight for Pryce and Ryder Etches is a good fight. The Eubanks are madly deluded.

They've made it so blatantly obvious that all they are trying to do is ride on the back of Eubank Sr's name and bring in the complete casual sports fan.

If they would have done this properly i would have applauded it, trying to carve their own way into the market instead of going in via sky and Hearn or BT and Warren. Competition should be a good thing especially where boxing is concerned. So if they had jr in against somebody half decent and on free to air in order to build the platform a bit you could say it's admirable in a way. But when you are blatantly just ripping people off like this it's beyond disgraceful.

Is that poster legit? And is that Eubank sr in the background??? It sure has to be a joke poster that! Can't beleive even Sr would put himself on the poster when the 'champion' doesn't even get on it haha.

Ideal scenario for me now is that the undercard does very good numbers and then the PPV does a fraction of it. That would be a massive kick in the sack for the Eubanks and it would force ITV to rethink the whole thing.

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Post by milkyboy Tue 10 Jan 2017, 1:03 pm

I think to be fair, they scoured google images but couldn't find a photo of the 'champion'... and they didn't have his mother's phone number to get one

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Post by rob-glos Tue 10 Jan 2017, 1:05 pm

It's being held in the national hall at Olympia.
According to the Olympia website that has a seated capacity of 2000.

Tickets available in blocks of 10 just about everywhere on see tickets.
Fight is in 3 weeks... has it been advertised on ITV yet?

This is going to be a car crash. Very Happy

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Post by EX7EY Tue 10 Jan 2017, 1:49 pm

rob-glos wrote:It's being held in the national hall at Olympia.
According to the Olympia website that has a seated capacity of 2000.

Tickets available in blocks of 10 just about everywhere on see tickets.
Fight is in 3 weeks... has it been advertised on ITV yet?

This is going to be a car crash. Very Happy

It's surreal that a huge national broadcaster like ITV thinks this is the way to go about promoting a PPV boxing event. It's absolute madness in fact. Surely somebody involved int he sports department at ITV must know what they are doing, how have they not put the brakes on this yet?

i wonder what they deem to be a justifiable number of PPV buys? I'm not well up on the money side of boxing I'll confess so I wouldn;t even like to guess what jr or Quinlin are to be paid but I can't see this doing more than 50k PPV buys and that generates something like £647500 in revenue, ticket sales obviously can't generate much, advertising is anybodies guess. So when all said and done where is the purse money for this fight coming from and how are they actually making any money???

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