Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread V

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Love this Texans D. They're amazing without Watt. Scary.

Amazing is a bit far - they're pretty good, nothing special.

Number one D in the NFL without their best player.

They're one of about 8 teams to hold that tag - and lets face it it's measured in yards...in points the #1 D was the Pats.

No great defences out there this year, just a lot of pretty good ones. If they had Watt, maybe they'd be great...but they don't

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Seen 6 teams play so far, genuinely don't think we're any worse than 4 of them. Should kill the play-off expansion dead

And hopefully the notion of an 18 game regular season too. Imagine another two weeks of regular season play to get banged up in...we've already had enough Connor Cook/Matt Moore...

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Giants had their foot on the Packers throat and only came away with 6 points.

Now they're down a score at the half and kicking to GB.

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3 score game with 9 minutes to go for an anemic offense. Eli becomes an awkward question, he's been terrible this year

[Pr4wn]

Odell choked completely.

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Gonna enjoy boatgate this off-season.

Odell didn't have a great game but some of those drops were just crap passes from Eli. The receivers sucked early but Eli was just terrible in the 2nd half.

Also they invested a lot of money in DEs to play contain against Aaron Rodgers. Can't sit in coverage all day and expect to slow him.

[skins4ever]

Can't see Boatgate being anything more than a whisper struggling hacks use to prop up specious arguments. Aside from going out playing hoops or committing a crime, nothing a player does on his day off should affect anyone other than the player. And heading off for a break in the sun should have a positive effect on his play. OBJ simply had a bad day, at the same time as the Packers scheming for him pretty well. The Giants weaknesses are the same they were earlier in the season - a QB heading for the down slope, no running game and a defence one or 2 injuries from a performance cliff (note the impact once DRC was out of the game).

I'd also point out at least 2 bonehead plays by Giants players - the KR that went OOB at his own 4 (it may not have gone OOB if he'd left it, but it would have at least gone into the EZ where he could shepherd it out for a TB), and the Eli fumble where the RB (Perkins?) let the ball roll around instead of picking it up. If you are winning you are forced to overcome those, but if you are losing they are back breakers.

On top of that, once he got in rhythm you saw a masterclass of QB creativity from Rodgers. At least 3 plays he avoided multiple defenders to create an opening, including 2 TD's. He's the prime reason the Packers came into the playoffs hot, and the prime reason they are a threat next week. I'm just not sure they can handle the Cowboys running game - the Giants didn't have one and the Cowboys have arguably the best.

[skins4ever]

Seems Joey Porter doesn't just like assaulting Bengals...

[crazy_dave23]

I'm am pretty surprised with last night.

Decided to call it quits and pick up the remainder of the match today when 0-6 down and Rodgers threw an intentional grounding penalty... this was on the assumption that we were as lucky as anything not to be down 14 or so and that my watching obviously wasn't helping.

Great performance second half

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Doug Marrone to be Jags HC.

Did a decent enough job in Buffalo when he had Schwartz coaching a great D I guess. EJ Manuel was his guy also though.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

One second - Jacksonville actually hired Doug Marrone based off week 16/17

My god

No wonder they suck

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

They've literally chose continuity on offence - did they not watch any of their games this year or something?

[Lowlandbrit]

Kind of a weird move; if you like Marrone, surely you have to get rid of Bradley sooner?

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I actually dont think Marrone is a bad HC. Being a HC is far more than coordinating 1 side of the ball as his successor in Buffalo proved

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Clearly Jacksonville viewed Gus Bradley as the big problem which likely isn't that far off

[skins4ever]

At his best I think McCarthy is as good a game day coach as Belichick, just not as consistent and lacks the knack the latter has for talent. His adjustments in game were spot on, i.e.changing up his RB to Michael (to give them a more direct pounding type runner) and running more crossing routes. That led to the Giants running less blitzes and giving Rodgers more time. I'm just not sure the Cowboys will afford them the same opportunities. Could be a shootout next week.

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Funny because the biggest knock against McCarthy for years is his in game management.

[skins4ever]

Kind of a weird move; if you like Marrone, surely you have to get rid of Bradley sooner?

Actually the weird part is then Making Coughlin Exec VP. Talk about a potential power struggle. This is either genius or madness. Roll on next season!

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Meanwhile in Giants player and transportation news, the Giants plane home from GB was delayed 3 hours after so they could clean up after them.

[skins4ever]

Meanwhile in Giants player and transportation news, the Giants plane home from GB was delayed 3 hours  after so they could clean up after them.

I'd expect it to be delayed because they couldn't hit the runway...

[Pr4wn]

Or because OBJ couldn't catch the flight...

[Lowlandbrit]

Looks like the Broncos are hiring Vance Joseph, Bills apparently want Sean McDermott.

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The Chargers are moving to L.A.

Nothing says capturing a market like moving 2 of the blandest teams

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

The Chargers are moving to L.A.

Nothing says capturing a market like moving 2 of the blandest teams

Especially when that market has literally said they do not want another team, and in the process you've alienated a great historical football city in San Diego

The NFL really is successful in spite of itself most of the time

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The whole thing is pathetically cheap. Spanos is paying a 650m fee to move yet will only commit 350m towards a new stadium.

Glad a city finally told a team to piss off and spend some of their own vast reserves.

[Number-25]

Sucks to see the Chargers leave San Diego. Something wrong with a league that lets teams just abandon the fans who have supported it and invested money, time and emotion in it for over half a centruy.

Nauseating to read the cliches and platitudes about how hard the decision was etc. If San Diego and its fans meant that much to Spanos and the NFL they'd have found a way to make it work. They were hellbent on two teams in LA no matter what. Hopefully LA has two stinky teams for many, many years to come.

[Number-25]

Rams appear to be homing in on Sean McVay as HC... baffling.

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The Redskins offense is well designed despite Cousins limitations. The Rams badly need a coach that can save Goff, he looked completely unready.

[Number-25]

Our offense looks ok on the stat sheet. It moves the ball generally well. Scratch the surface this surface this season and you find an offense that was historically inefficient- only one other team in NFL history has compiled as many total yards as we did and scored less points. The main reason for that was McVay's inability to solve our redzone problems... which in part stemmed from his inability to solve our problems running the ball. Then on top of all that, our offense repeatedly showed up looking unprepared and flat in the biggest of games.

I may be wrong but I don’t think McVay is HC material yet.

[Number-25]

It's official...

Sean McVay is confirmed as the Rams' new HC.

Redskins now looking for a new OC as well as a new DC.

For all I think McVay had to up his game as an OC I would have preferred to see him stay. It's not ideal for our efforts to take the next step to have such significant upheaval on both sides of the ball.

[Pr4wn]

Mike Smith isn't going to the Chargers, thank goodness. He signed a multi year extension in Tampa.

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I think the 5 Chargers fans still standing are even more grateful

[Number-25]

There's 5 of them???

[Number-25]

Wade Phillips to the Rams as DC

That should help McVay. Can just let Phillips get on with running that side of the ball.

It's another poke in the eye for the Redskins though who seemingly had an interview scheduled with him today.

What's happened to us?? We used to be the Kings of the offseason

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Would imagine Phillips as DC was a big part of the reason McVay was hired by LA - will be interesting to see if he can work with Goff to get the best out of him like he did Cousins. Needs to be a huge talent infusion on that offensive side of the ball though

Cannot wait for the games this weekend - divisional round is always the best NFL weekend, and we have 3 properly heavyweight matchups

[Pr4wn]

Wade Phillips to the Rams as DC

That should help McVay. Can just let Phillips get on with running that side of the ball.

It's another poke in the eye for the Redskins though who seemingly had an interview scheduled with him today.

What's happened to us?? We used to be the Kings of the offseason

Yeah, remember when you managed to secure that Haynesworth contract?

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Good for Mike Smith getting a free pay rise though

[Lowlandbrit]

Anthony Lynn to the Chargers, just the 49ers left now.

[Number-25]

Wade Phillips to the Rams as DC

That should help McVay. Can just let Phillips get on with running that side of the ball.

It's another poke in the eye for the Redskins though who seemingly had an interview scheduled with him today.

What's happened to us?? We used to be the Kings of the offseason

Yeah, remember when you managed to secure that Haynesworth contract?

I know, it was a great day....

.... surpassed only by the hilarity of the carnage that folowed. He was truly useless! Worse than useless actually.

[skins4ever]

Looks like the Las Vegas Raiders is happening.

Can't help thinking that with the lack of cities willing to stump up new stadia, are they waking up to the realisation that an NFL franchise mostly benefits the owners not the local economy? I know there's a lot of money sloshing around Vegas, but can it really sustain a franchise the way an area like Oakland or LA can? It's not like they can attract a lot of fans from outside the city!

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I never understood why taxpayers had to pay for multi billionaires stadiums anyways - glad Americans seem to be waking upto this fact too

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The teams picking 1 and 2 got all their wins against teams playing in L.A. next year

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Seattle badly needs to find about 5 answers on OL

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Wouldn't be unhappy if Michael Bennett picked up a long term injury

What a disgusting dirty punk player

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On the bright side Nnamdi and Fat Al can move aside, Brock Osweiler is the worst FA signing in NFL history

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

On the bright side Nnamdi and Fat Al can move aside, Brock Osweiler is the worst FA signing in NFL history

4 times this season he has thrown 40+ pass attempts and failed to get 200 passing yards.

No player has done it more than twice since 1950.

Impressively bad

[crazy_dave23]

Don't get me wrong, Brock ain't great... but he is no Fat Al...

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Fat Al didn't wreck the franchise though.

The Texans are stuck

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Legit think the Texans might be a better team without JJ Watt tho. As good as he is, you build your defence around him doing what he likes.

[skins4ever]

I never understood why taxpayers had to pay for multi billionaires stadiums anyways - glad Americans seem to be waking upto this fact too

You mean like Wembley?...

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