2017/18 Aviva Premiership Round One

by **Rugby Fan** Fri 01 Sep 2017, 1:55 am

First topic message reminder :

Not on a par with LT but, hopefully, we can keep the discussions separate week by week.

Friday, 1st September

Gloucester vs Exeter Chiefs (19:45) BT Sport
Newcastle Falcons vs Worcester Warriors (19:45)

Saturday, 2nd September

Saracens vs Northampton Saints (14:00) BT Sport
Wasps vs Sale Sharks (15:00)
London Irish vs Harlequins (16:45) BT Sport

Sunday. 3rd September

Leicester Tigers vs Bath (15:00) BT Sport

Chat already started on this general thread: https://www.606v2.com/t65292-jeff-chat
Details lifted from: http://www.premiershiprugby.com/aviva-premiership-rugby-fixtures/

by nathan Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:12 pm

I'm sure it will be a close loss for glos

by nathan Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:13 pm

That looks wrong seeing Ed slater in a glos shirt

by Guest Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:15 pm

nathan wrote:I'm sure it will be a close loss for glos

If any team can lose a match from this position it's certainly Gloucester. This is a huge 20 minutes for Gloucester's season and Slater has a great opportunity to show what he can do to the pack.

by nathan Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:17 pm

Slater with 3 or 4 great bits of play

by nathan Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:21 pm

That's surely a card?

by Cumbrian Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:25 pm

Nathan, not watching the Glos game, but I am guessing that you might not like the Cherry and Whites? Very Happy

by Welly Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:27 pm

Simmonds isn't the tallest but he is a cannonball.

by nathan Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:28 pm

Cumbrian wrote:Nathan, not watching the Glos game, but I am guessing that you might not like the Cherry and Whites?

I react to their fans on the TV lol.

In fairness though it was a clear headbutt. Might not of meant it but it was still a card

by formerly known as Sam Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:29 pm

Slater and Ackermann have looked great off the bench. The Glaws defence looks really well drilled.

Then captain Heinz fluffs a kick straight to Woodburn for a suicidal try.

Not sure why Chiefs have turned down any hint of a kick at goal.

by nathan Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:31 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:Slater and Ackermann have looked great off the bench. The Glaws defence looks really well drilled.

Then captain Heinz fluffs a kick straight to Woodburn for a suicidal try.

Not sure why Chiefs have turned down any hint of a kick at goal.

In fairness to heinz he was tackled as he kicked it which made him slice it

by Welly Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:31 pm

I swear to god Gloucester could give away a 50 point lead with 10 to go.

by formerly known as Sam Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:35 pm

nathan wrote:
formerly known as Sam wrote:Slater and Ackermann have looked great off the bench. The Glaws defence looks really well drilled.

Then captain Heinz fluffs a kick straight to Woodburn for a suicidal try.

Not sure why Chiefs have turned down any hint of a kick at goal.

In fairness to heinz he was tackled as he kicked it which made him slice it

He needed to slow the game down and get the ball off the park. Picking and running for two steps before the kick was sloppy.

by Welly Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:37 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:
nathan wrote:
formerly known as Sam wrote:Slater and Ackermann have looked great off the bench. The Glaws defence looks really well drilled.

Then captain Heinz fluffs a kick straight to Woodburn for a suicidal try.

Not sure why Chiefs have turned down any hint of a kick at goal.

In fairness to heinz he was tackled as he kicked it which made him slice it

He needed to slow the game down and get the ball off the park. Picking and running for two steps before the kick was sloppy.

That needed to be the 10's kick.

by formerly known as Sam Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:39 pm

Agree Welly.

That looked like a one handed slap down. Should have been more than a scrum.

by nathan Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:39 pm

Class from Gloucester fans....

by stub Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:39 pm

Ah well, that is my pre season optimism crushed - well played Falcons.

by nathan Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:42 pm

Well done Gloucester, actually finishing a game off

by Guest Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:42 pm

Never in doubt... Rolling Eyes

Gloucester to win the Prem.

by Welly Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:43 pm

Ackers affect?

by formerly known as Sam Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:43 pm

nathan wrote:Class from Gloucester fans....

The one's that were walking out as Slade lines up his kick might be regretting it.

Those summer signings in the pack for Glaws might turn out to have been significant. Bringing on a leader like Slater was massive. With Owen Williams to help Heinz control the game when fit will help as well. Still that's a TBP win over the reigning champions.

by Guest Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:43 pm

Frak sake Billy I had Gloucester by 5.

by Welly Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:43 pm

who does Cheifs have to come in?

quite a few isn't it?

by Cumbrian Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:44 pm

I'd call that a satisfactory start from Falcons. Smile

by nathan Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:44 pm

Welly wrote:who does Cheifs have to come in?

quite a few isn't it?

I'd be more concerned with getting Nic White out

by Welly Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:48 pm

Why they didn't replace Parling i do not know TBH.

He was getting on but his set piece was second to none.

by Geordie Fri 01 Sep 2017, 9:58 pm

As l predicted solid and workmanlike bit we did show a few flashes of something and we showed efficiency in taking points.

Wuss made a lot of unforced errors mind.

by formerly known as Sam Fri 01 Sep 2017, 10:00 pm

I suspect losing Dave Dennis late on and the replacement being Kvesic unbalanced the Chiefs lineout a bit.

Much respect for Baxter not being baited by the attempted wind up from Sara. Respectful and focused in defeat.

by formerly known as Sam Fri 01 Sep 2017, 10:02 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:As l predicted solid and workmanlike bit we did show a few flashes of something and we showed efficiency in taking points.

Wuss made a lot of unforced errors mind.

Not seen the game but the updates on BT seemed to suggest you matched them physically and the subbed on some impact to finish the job. Nice TBP start to the season for you guys.

by Geordie Fri 01 Sep 2017, 11:22 pm

Yeah we grafted. Wuss actually had quite a bit of possession and territory first half and early second but we just defended like we can soaking up the pressure..always two men making the tackle ...welch and Wilson leading the way.

Id prefer to see socino starting bigger games at 12 and we have a few big names to come back. Mystery still surrounds Gonevas complete lack of appearance in any game so far.

Things look positive though as a falcon fan.

by HongKongCherry Fri 01 Sep 2017, 11:23 pm

Welly wrote: I swear to god Gloucester could give away a 50 point lead with 10 to go.

I was still concerned after Woodward's score that we'd throw it away!!

Well that was unexpected, but by God it was enjoyable Yahoo

by Geordie Sat 02 Sep 2017, 7:16 am

Wow the Worcester fans showing how bitter and pathetic they are as normal on the unoffy.

We only won because they were poor and all our points came from their mistakes lol. Where do they get this superiority attidue from.

by yappysnap Sat 02 Sep 2017, 8:01 am

All clubs have "fans" like that GF, especially on the unoffi, you want to see the Quins board after a loss mate, its carnage, difficult to believe a lot of the people on there are adults.

Stub the Wuss fan on here is a good poster, never has much to cheer either

by Geordie Sat 02 Sep 2017, 8:06 am

Yeah your right Yappy....

by formerly known as Sam Sat 02 Sep 2017, 8:12 am

HongKongCherry wrote:
Welly wrote: I swear to god Gloucester could give away a 50 point lead with 10 to go.

I was still concerned after Woodward's score that we'd throw it away!!

Well that was unexpected, but by God it was enjoyable

Yeah Kingholm certainly seemed to enjoy that finale. Good to see Slater captaining the side once Heinz came off as well. He'll be club captain in a year or two.

Maybe you'll have cause for some real optimism this season. The game plan should come together with a few injury returnees and Ackermann there to continue his influence.

by Cumbrian Sat 02 Sep 2017, 9:22 am

In the cold light of day (and without wanting to rub salt in the wounds) I would say that I think I got my league position prediction wrong, I believe Worcester will finish bottom. They look a poor team to me.

by **Rugby Fan** Sat 02 Sep 2017, 9:24 am

formerly known as Sam wrote:....Yeah Kingholm certainly seemed to enjoy that finale...

by **Rugby Fan** Sat 02 Sep 2017, 2:25 pm

George Kruis off after less than 15 minutes. Looked like he might try and carry on, so perhaps not too serious. Bit surprised to see both him and Itoje starting, given their stint on the Lions.

Saracens already 2 tries on the board and leading 12-0. Mallinder just missed a kick to get Sainst on the board.

by **Rugby Fan** Sat 02 Sep 2017, 2:28 pm

Three tries for Sarries in the first 20 minutes.

by **Rugby Fan** Sat 02 Sep 2017, 2:32 pm

Mallinder gets a penalty in front of the posts, and makes it 17-3 after 25 minutes.

by **Ozzy3213** Sat 02 Sep 2017, 2:32 pm

Saints look woeful.

by Guest Sat 02 Sep 2017, 2:39 pm

Saracens can do this to anyone but I'm absolutely shocked at how lazy Saints look. Maybe they are trying to force the board to make the much needed changes to the coaching staff.

by **Rugby Fan** Sat 02 Sep 2017, 2:41 pm

Six minutes later, Saracens have scored two more tries, and it's 29-3

by **Rugby Fan** Sat 02 Sep 2017, 2:42 pm

TV just had a shot of Jim Mallinder holding his head in his hands.

by **Rugby Fan** Sat 02 Sep 2017, 2:44 pm

34-3 and six tries now in 34 minutes. Saints are dire.

by Guest Sat 02 Sep 2017, 2:45 pm

It's getting so bad now that I'm finding it hard to enjoy watching Saints getting pummelled.

by **Rugby Fan** Sat 02 Sep 2017, 2:48 pm

Saints keep trying to counter the onslaught, but make mistakes and concede more points. No-one in control.

Oh, there's a seventh try for Sarries now under the posts. Hard to imagine any team will play as badly as this in the first round.

by Welly Sat 02 Sep 2017, 2:49 pm

Remember when Mallinder was being touted for England...

by Guest Sat 02 Sep 2017, 2:51 pm

So Saracens are missing both Vunipolas, Owen Farrell, Liam Williams and Jamie George (anyone else?) and still putting in a performance like this.

by Welly Sat 02 Sep 2017, 2:55 pm

Fuzzy Dunlop wrote:So Saracens are missing both Vunipolas, Owen Farrell, Liam Williams and Jamie George (anyone else?) and still putting in a performance like this.

skeleton.

by WELL-PAST-IT Sat 02 Sep 2017, 2:56 pm

Sarries brilliant, but Mallinder really needs to consider his position, crap in defence and useless in attack.

Last year was bad, and I know it is only 40 minutes against probably the best side in the AP but what has he been doing over the last 4 months. Do we actually have an attack or defence coach, I know we have people getting paid to do those jobs, but what are they coaching. The whole coaching set up needs to be replaced from Dickens and Hopley up to Mallinder and no, not an over reaction to the first half, I was saying it at the end of last season. Obviously nothing has been learnt.

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