Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

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Rumours are that I want to move to another company because my boss is an @rse.

And there's something to those rumours, I can assure you.

Despite our position we are re-signing lots of our top players.

Mark Wilson, Kyle Cooper, Hammersley, Sam Lockwood...all recently announced.

Ive just seen the best rumour yet....Brodie Retalick to Sale....

A couple of Wallabies, Curtis Rona and Nick Phipps to LI confirmed ... also not sure if mentioned before but Ian Keatley until the end of the season ...

GeordieFalcon wrote:Despite our position we are re-signing lots of our top players.

Mark Wilson, Kyle Cooper, Hammersley, Sam Lockwood...all recently announced.

Ive just seen the best rumour yet....Brodie Retalick to Sale....

Re-signed with relegation release clauses?

LI spending like they are already promoted. They better hope Ealing don't ruin the party.

Rumour that Tigers are signing a capped New Zealander who can play across the backrow

formerly known as Sam wrote:

GeordieFalcon wrote:Despite our position we are re-signing lots of our top players.

Mark Wilson, Kyle Cooper, Hammersley, Sam Lockwood...all recently announced.

Ive just seen the best rumour yet....Brodie Retalick to Sale....

Re-signed with relegation release clauses?

LI spending like they are already promoted. They better hope Ealing don't ruin the party.

Indeed ... for a while it looked like Coventry were going to do us a favour last weekend but then it all fell apart and Ealing even managed to grab an injury time TBP ...

bluestonevedder wrote:Rumour that Tigers are signing a capped New Zealander who can play across the backrow

Let's hope he's a beast and an explosive ball carrier from 8. Denton/Evans/Kiwi would be decent (if Evans doesn't get poached by Quins).

GeordieFalcon wrote:Despite our position we are re-signing lots of our top players.

Mark Wilson, Kyle Cooper, Hammersley, Sam Lockwood...all recently announced.

Ive just seen the best rumour yet....Brodie Retalick to Sale....

i wouldn't laugh at Retalick to Sale just yet.

Surely not Welly...

formerly known as Sam wrote:

GeordieFalcon wrote:Despite our position we are re-signing lots of our top players.

Mark Wilson, Kyle Cooper, Hammersley, Sam Lockwood...all recently announced.

Ive just seen the best rumour yet....Brodie Retalick to Sale....

Re-signed with relegation release clauses?

LI spending like they are already promoted. They better hope Ealing don't ruin the party.

Unless they know something about ringfencing that we don't.....?

formerly known as Sam wrote:

bluestonevedder wrote:Rumour that Tigers are signing a capped New Zealander who can play across the backrow

Let's hope he's a beast and an explosive ball carrier from 8. Denton/Evans/Kiwi would be decent (if Evans doesn't get poached by Quins).

Liam Messam? Or is it someone coming up from the Southern Hemisphere?

Fissler tweeted something about a ludicrous signing that he couldn't believe he was hearing

James Chisholm re-signed with Quins.

Fluxy wrote:

formerly known as Sam wrote:

bluestonevedder wrote:Rumour that Tigers are signing a capped New Zealander who can play across the backrow

Let's hope he's a beast and an explosive ball carrier from 8. Denton/Evans/Kiwi would be decent (if Evans doesn't get poached by Quins).

Liam Messam? Or is it someone coming up from the Southern Hemisphere?

Messam is at Toulon.

BamBam wrote:Fissler tweeted something about a ludicrous signing that he couldn't believe he was hearing

Retallick ---> Sale

Warren Gatland to Saracens.

mikey_dragon wrote:Warren Gatland to Saracens.

Apparently he is desperate for a job in NZ but he doesn’t carry the coaching weight down there as most of his career has been NH based.

The ABs should snap him up, look at how well they’ve done with their last two former welsh coaches and to be fair our record under them was appalling compared to Gatland ha ha ha...

If he can’t get a job at home, he still lives in NZ and commutes to Wales for work, then I imagine he’ll do that, but if he can t he will take a high profile European job, Sarries is the kind of thing. Means lots of money for the retirement pot.

formerly known as Sam wrote:

Fluxy wrote:

formerly known as Sam wrote:

bluestonevedder wrote:Rumour that Tigers are signing a capped New Zealander who can play across the backrow

Let's hope he's a beast and an explosive ball carrier from 8. Denton/Evans/Kiwi would be decent (if Evans doesn't get poached by Quins).

Liam Messam? Or is it someone coming up from the Southern Hemisphere?

Messam is at Toulon.

I know he is, but when you think of an AB that can/or has played all positions in the back row, Messam makes sense.

The next ones would most likely be Matt Todd, Jordan Taufau (at a push), or Ardie Savea (unlikely with the Cane injury situation).

mikey_dragon wrote:Warren Gatland to Saracens.

Why would Sarries want or need him? McCall has been a fantastic DOR for them. He's lost coaches but rebuild the coaching team time and time again. Squad has been consistently good. They've won plenty of silverware. Unless there's a big job that's tempting McCall away Gatland would be superfluous.

McCall is succeeding Joe Schmidt. Sarries need a good coach and there isn’t a super rugby vacancy any time soon, hence Gatland.

Andy Farrell has already been announced as Schmidt's successor. McCall not leaving Sarries.

Not sure where you’re getting your info from Sam but it’s all wrong. Stick to ref-blaming when Wales do something remotely good.

mikey_dragon wrote:Not sure where you’re getting your info from Sam but it’s all wrong. Stick to ref-blaming when Wales do something remotely good.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/46329842

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/44287140

Fissler reporting Retallick to Sale for £1 million.

All I can think is that he's lining up 2-3 years of high earnings before returning for the 2023 RWC. He'll only be 28 years old at this RWC and must have a good shot at the captaincy after Read retires.

Very good players have given up international rugby early before though. Having been through a Lions cycle and already won a RWC he may feel that maximising his career is the best bet. Carl Hayman was still the best tighthead in the world when he jacked in international rugby.

Fluxy wrote:

formerly known as Sam wrote:

Fluxy wrote:

formerly known as Sam wrote:

bluestonevedder wrote:Rumour that Tigers are signing a capped New Zealander who can play across the backrow

Let's hope he's a beast and an explosive ball carrier from 8. Denton/Evans/Kiwi would be decent (if Evans doesn't get poached by Quins).

Liam Messam? Or is it someone coming up from the Southern Hemisphere?

Messam is at Toulon.

I know he is, but when you think of an AB that can/or has played all positions in the back row, Messam makes sense.

The next ones would most likely be Matt Todd, Jordan Taufau (at a push), or Ardie Savea (unlikely with the Cane injury situation).

Savea re-signed with the NZRFU in December following a significant wage hike, Fluxy.

The NZRFU have a strict wage structure judged largely on international experience, loyalty to the NZRFU, value to Super Rugby franchises through captaincy, etc. They are very reticent to break the structure as they fear it will cause rapid wage inflation which will get out of control - see wages in the Prem!

Apparently that structure has had a rare exception made for Savea though given then Cane injury makes him the best option they have by a distance in a key position.

Did I say Gatland to Saracens? I meant Sale...

mikey_dragon wrote:Not sure where you’re getting your info from Sam but it’s all wrong. Stick to ref-blaming when Wales do something remotely good.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/46329842

That's where. Where did you get your unfounded and untrue rumour from?

Wales did something remotely good? Not since the AIs.

mikey_dragon wrote:Did I say Gatland to Saracens? I meant Sale...

Diamond has tried to retire up to the Sale board previously. It didn't work and he had to come back as DOR. Sale have had a cash injection so could be looking for someone to build the side up but that would be a hands on long term commitment, not sure Gatland would fancy that with his family over in NZ.

A cushy job with one of the PI teams would suit him more I'd have thought.

Graham Kitchener returning to Worcester

Midol reporting Owen franks to join his brother at Northampton. That’s a big one.

Bathite wrote:Midol reporting Owen franks to join his brother at Northampton. That’s a big one.

Also saying Tigers have signed Jordan Taufua.

Saints have lost an edge up front so reuniting the Franks brothers would possibly help with that.

Tuafua doing the rounds it seems. Hope that one comes off.

Kitch is a good signing for Wuss, it's his team and he'll help their set piece.

Confirmed that Daly is leaving Wasps.

LondonTiger wrote:Confirmed that Daly is leaving Wasps.

Still rumoured to be Saracens as the destination.

Fluxy wrote:

LondonTiger wrote:Confirmed that Daly is leaving Wasps.

Still rumoured to be Saracens as the destination.

Marcelo Bosch is due to retire in the summer so that might create some room in the squad. Daly won't be cheap but a great signing for Sarries.

formerly known as Sam wrote:

Fluxy wrote:

LondonTiger wrote:Confirmed that Daly is leaving Wasps.

Still rumoured to be Saracens as the destination.

Marcelo Bosch is due to retire in the summer so that might create some room in the squad. Daly won't be cheap but a great signing for Sarries.

There were suggestions that Wasps were offering him more money to stay, than Sarries were to leave.

Saracens do tend to rotate their players more. Maybe he's thinking that a combination of that pack and more rotation will be better for his body in the long run.

With England matchday payments to add in I'd imagine that the difference in pay would be pretty minimal in the scheme of his total earnings to be fair. Daly will have earned an extra £225k from his 9 England appearances last year.

Right lads, we're running out of space and it's literally neither 2017 nor 2018 any more so let's move this thread on to here:
https://www.606v2.com/t68412-silly-season-transfer-rumours-19-20

formerly known as Sam wrote:

mikey_dragon wrote:Did I say Gatland to Saracens? I meant Sale...

Diamond has tried to retire up to the Sale board previously. It didn't work and he had to come back as DOR. Sale have had a cash injection so could be looking for someone to build the side up but that would be a hands on long term commitment, not sure Gatland would fancy that with his family over in NZ.

A cushy job with one of the PI teams would suit him more I'd have thought.

Possibly the New Zealand one...!