Premier Sports - will you be watching?

First topic message reminder :

The channel is available on Sky and Virgin, but not BT.

The alternative is the app or the website to stream.

These two options however don't allow you to record games.

I'll be interested to see if they add every single game to their On Demand library, and how long after the game has aired will the on demand version be available.

Is anyone switching to Sky or Virgin simply for Premier Sports?

It is both excruciating and highly entertaining reading through the last couple of pages of this thread.

LordDowlais wrote:

PhilBB wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:
Not ALL of Wales has access to ALL the channels on freeview. But as you do not live here you are just living on what you know, which is very little.

Which parts of Wales don't have access to Freesports on Freeview?

Everywhere has Freeview, but not everywhere has all the channels. West Wales and around the cities have a lot more channels than around the valleys and mid Wales.

They just need to retune their boxes

PhilBB wrote:So now it is that folk would hunker down on a Friday night to get something for free, but they won't do the same on a Saturday night.

Or a Sunday afternoon.

Rightio. And we're the ones living in a bubble whilst Dowellais speaks for the nation.

Oh.

I know a lot of people who watch the game on a Friday night, and chose to go out on a Saturday night, or low and behold watch a different game on a Saturday afternoon, sometimes they have to travel as well.

marty2086 wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:

PhilBB wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:
Not ALL of Wales has access to ALL the channels on freeview. But as you do not live here you are just living on what you know, which is very little.

Which parts of Wales don't have access to Freesports on Freeview?

Everywhere has Freeview, but not everywhere has all the channels. West Wales and around the cities have a lot more channels than around the valleys and mid Wales.

They just need to retune their boxes

Ah it's that easy is it ? FFS.

LordDowlais wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:

PhilBB wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:
Not ALL of Wales has access to ALL the channels on freeview. But as you do not live here you are just living on what you know, which is very little.

Which parts of Wales don't have access to Freesports on Freeview?

Everywhere has Freeview, but not everywhere has all the channels. West Wales and around the cities have a lot more channels than around the valleys and mid Wales.

They just need to retune their boxes

Ah it's that easy is it ? FFS.

Yes actually it is as I've had to do it in the past, nearly as simple as grasping eirSports will show the games in Ireland and Premier the UK and that they aren't the same companies

LordDowlais wrote:

PhilBB wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:
Not ALL of Wales has access to ALL the channels on freeview. But as you do not live here you are just living on what you know, which is very little.

Which parts of Wales don't have access to Freesports on Freeview?

Everywhere has Freeview, but not everywhere has all the channels. West Wales and around the cities have a lot more channels than around the valleys and mid Wales.

So you mean the more densely populated areas can get the channel?

PhilBB wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:

PhilBB wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:
Not ALL of Wales has access to ALL the channels on freeview. But as you do not live here you are just living on what you know, which is very little.

Which parts of Wales don't have access to Freesports on Freeview?

Everywhere has Freeview, but not everywhere has all the channels. West Wales and around the cities have a lot more channels than around the valleys and mid Wales.

So you mean the more densely populated areas can get the channel?

If you call West Wales more densely populated.

Put it this way, on Freewview, in my caravan in West Wales, I get substantially more channels than I do at home in Merthyr, and no matter how much more "re-tuning" I do, I do not get all the channels. The service is just better in different areas. Talk is, down near Pembroke Dock, you get the signal from across the Bristol Channel, which is better.

LordDowlais wrote:

PhilBB wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:

PhilBB wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:
Not ALL of Wales has access to ALL the channels on freeview. But as you do not live here you are just living on what you know, which is very little.

Which parts of Wales don't have access to Freesports on Freeview?

Everywhere has Freeview, but not everywhere has all the channels. West Wales and around the cities have a lot more channels than around the valleys and mid Wales.

So you mean the more densely populated areas can get the channel?

If you call West Wales more densely populated.

Put it this way, on Freewview, in my caravan in West Wales, I get substantially more channels than I do at home in Merthyr, and no matter how much more "re-tuning" I do, I do not get all the channels. The service is just better in different areas. Talk is, down near Pembroke Dock, you get the signal from across the Bristol Channel, which is better.

My work colleague lives in Merthyr and gets freesports through his freeview box. Others in Merthyr should be fine. It’s not exactly the sticks up their, LD, as you keep telling me

The Oracle wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:

PhilBB wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:

PhilBB wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:
Not ALL of Wales has access to ALL the channels on freeview. But as you do not live here you are just living on what you know, which is very little.

Which parts of Wales don't have access to Freesports on Freeview?

Everywhere has Freeview, but not everywhere has all the channels. West Wales and around the cities have a lot more channels than around the valleys and mid Wales.

So you mean the more densely populated areas can get the channel?

If you call West Wales more densely populated.

Put it this way, on Freewview, in my caravan in West Wales, I get substantially more channels than I do at home in Merthyr, and no matter how much more "re-tuning" I do, I do not get all the channels. The service is just better in different areas. Talk is, down near Pembroke Dock, you get the signal from across the Bristol Channel, which is better.

My work colleague lives in Merthyr and gets freesports through his freeview box. Others in Merthyr should be fine. It’s not exactly the sticks up their, LD, as you keep telling me

Not everywhere in Merthyr.  

Unless you have some sort of box, or firestick.

Some people just use their digital tele's. They pick up freeview through their ariel's. Why do you assume everybody has a box of some kind attached to their tele's ?

LordDowlais wrote:

The Oracle wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:

PhilBB wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:

PhilBB wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:
Not ALL of Wales has access to ALL the channels on freeview. But as you do not live here you are just living on what you know, which is very little.

Which parts of Wales don't have access to Freesports on Freeview?

Everywhere has Freeview, but not everywhere has all the channels. West Wales and around the cities have a lot more channels than around the valleys and mid Wales.

So you mean the more densely populated areas can get the channel?

If you call West Wales more densely populated.

Put it this way, on Freewview, in my caravan in West Wales, I get substantially more channels than I do at home in Merthyr, and no matter how much more "re-tuning" I do, I do not get all the channels. The service is just better in different areas. Talk is, down near Pembroke Dock, you get the signal from across the Bristol Channel, which is better.

My work colleague lives in Merthyr and gets freesports through his freeview box. Others in Merthyr should be fine. It’s not exactly the sticks up their, LD, as you keep telling me

Not everywhere in Merthyr.  

Unless you have some sort of box, or firestick.

Some people just use their digital tele's. They pick up freeview through their ariel's. Why do you assume everybody has a box of some kind attached to their tele's ?

I didn’t say that.

But while we’re on assumptions, why do you assume that most people in Wales can’t get freesports? What is your claim based on?

I'm sure it will soon get buried under all this boring tit for tat bickering, but for anyone who is bothered, there's a promo code to get Premier Sports for the year for £89 rather than £99. Just enter PREMIER89.

clivemcl wrote:I'm sure it will soon get buried under all this boring tit for tat bickering, but for anyone who is bothered, there's a promo code to get Premier Sports for the year for £89 rather than £99.  Just enter PREMIER89.

And anyone who has it on Virgin will need to subscribe soon as it will no longer be free after Sept 22nd

clivemcl wrote:I'm sure it will soon get buried under all this boring tit for tat bickering, but for anyone who is bothered, there's a promo code to get Premier Sports for the year for £89 rather than £99.  Just enter PREMIER89.

ANd yet, despite this info coming via Ulster Rugby Mailing List, I cannot see at any point in the subscription process and opportunity to enter such a promo code....

No way to enter the promo code?! It’ll be the death of rugby in Wales! I give it 2 years

clivemcl wrote:

clivemcl wrote:I'm sure it will soon get buried under all this boring tit for tat bickering, but for anyone who is bothered, there's a promo code to get Premier Sports for the year for £89 rather than £99.  Just enter PREMIER89.

ANd yet, despite this info coming via Ulster Rugby Mailing List, I cannot see at any point in the subscription process and opportunity to enter such a promo code....

How are you planning to watch it ? Sky ?

Na, through their player.

No option for a code yet - its not been released for player- tomorrow I think ?

PhilBB wrote:It seems we've gone from:

- the games won't be on free to air tv
to
- not enough of the games will be on free to air tv
to
- they are in the wrong language on free to air tv

When you have 'customers' like that, you put them in the "too expensive to attract" pile and forget about them.

It’s been my experience, Phil, that they’ll be first sat in front of the telly no matter what - just so they can complain about the programme/match/officials/weather/picture/production quality, etc.

The NeverHappys.

So living in non Premier Sport land, and not being an Eir customer, I decided that I’d have to pay the €27.50 extra to get EirSport on my Sky box.  Current subscription is €30 for Sky TV (that I don’t watch), €52 for Sky Broadband and landline (that I never use). I also have Three mobile contract of about €75 a month that I use for work.  €184.50 per month all in using Sky platform.

So I did some further digging around on Eir website on bundle packages and found one that gave me broadband (same fiber speed), landline (that I still won’t use), Eir Vision Tv incl RTE, TV3 (6N), TG4, and EirSport (PRO14 and RWC19), BT Sport (Heineken/Challenge Cup) and a Sim only comparable mobile service and EirSport app to watch on devices.

Cost?  €79.97 per month all in for first 12 months and €99.97 per month if I renew after that. Plus a once-off activation fee of €30.

Result.   Thanks PRO14.  I love you Martin Anayi.

Seems very expensive for what you get. Surely you could get a better deal? And not just on the rugby.

Cyril wrote:Seems very expensive for what you get. Surely you could get a better deal? And not just on the rugby.

Well if you’d like to point me where I can, I’m all ears - I have my 14-day cooling off period.

Watched the preview show last night. Studio presentation seemed a bit weak after scrum v slick studio show. Hope they improve their presentation.
The presenters were ok.
Let's see what their match presentation is like.

ScrumV is still on isn't it. Hope it's not just a semipro and lower league show

Scrum V slick?! Each to their own! I always found it a bit amateurish and low budget. Felt like a few blokes down the pub chatting to their mates about the game! Especially on a Sunday - Jiffy always looked and sounded hungover! Was hoping for something a bit more high tech and up to date with the move away from Scrum V.

dogtooth wrote:Watched the preview show last night. Studio presentation seemed a bit weak after scrum v slick studio show. Hope they improve their presentation.
The presenters were ok.
Let's see what their match presentation is like.

ScrumV is still on isn't it. Hope it's not just a semipro and lower league show

Scrum V is JUST going to be the Welsh premiership.

Pot Hale wrote:So living in non Premier Sport land, and not being an Eir customer, I decided that I’d have to pay the €27.50 extra to get EirSport on my Sky box.  Current subscription is €30 for Sky TV (that I don’t watch), €52 for Sky Broadband and landline (that I never use). I also have Three mobile contract of about €75 a month that I use for work.  €184.50 per month all in using Sky platform.

So I did some further digging around on Eir website on bundle packages and found one that gave me broadband (same fiber speed), landline (that I still won’t use), Eir Vision Tv incl RTE, TV3 (6N), TG4, and EirSport (PRO14 and RWC19), BT Sport (Heineken/Challenge Cup) and a Sim only comparable mobile service and EirSport app to watch on devices.

Cost?  €79.97 per month all in for first 12 months and €99.97 per month if I renew after that. Plus a once-off activation fee of €30.

Result.   Thanks PRO14.  I love you Martin Anayi.

The price you were paying before seems insane, but then maybe I'm not up to speed with what stuff costs in Ireland

€79.97 doesn't seem too bad though, I'm currently paying

£80 for Sky TV (including sports and cinema), broadband and phone
£40 for my phone contract
£17 for BT sport

So £137 total and I'm debating whether to sign up to Premier too. If I wasn't a big football fan I'd probably go for a BT TV/broadband package with BT Sport included which would probably save me £50 a month

clivemcl wrote:

clivemcl wrote:I'm sure it will soon get buried under all this boring tit for tat bickering, but for anyone who is bothered, there's a promo code to get Premier Sports for the year for £89 rather than £99.  Just enter PREMIER89.

ANd yet, despite this info coming via Ulster Rugby Mailing List, I cannot see at any point in the subscription process and opportunity to enter such a promo code....

Clive did you work out how to do this? Is it available via sky with the promotion, does anyone know.

TG4 have a load of free games but very little with Ulster, are premier sport showing all Ulsters games live?

Saturdays game is on S4C on Saturday rodders, the first Ulster game on TG4 is Connacht just after xmas and nothing on FreeSport until Treviso in January

Thank god it's all setup to benefit the Irish eh

Yeah Premier are showing every game live on one of their two channels or on FreeSports

For round 1

marty2086 wrote:Saturdays game is on S4C on Saturday rodders, the first Ulster game on TG4 is Connacht just after xmas and nothing on FreeSport until Treviso in January

Thank god it's all setup to benefit the Irish eh

It is. Not the Northern Irish. That's a different country let us not forget.

marty2086 wrote:Saturdays game is on S4C on Saturday rodders, the first Ulster game on TG4 is Connacht just after xmas and nothing on FreeSport until Treviso in January

Thank god it's all setup to benefit the Irish eh

TG4 live contract is only for all Connacht home games, and as live derbies between Leinster and Munster. Ulster not in their broadcast territory agreement.

Got a free month of Premier sport (As can anyone with Sky sports that will be a new premier customer). will decide what the quality is like and if it is worth the £9.99 a month for after.

Pot Hale wrote:

marty2086 wrote:Saturdays game is on S4C on Saturday rodders, the first Ulster game on TG4 is Connacht just after xmas and nothing on FreeSport until Treviso in January

Thank god it's all setup to benefit the Irish eh

TG4 live contract is only for all Connacht home games, and as live derbies between Leinster and Munster.  Ulster not in their broadcast territory agreement.

I'm aware of that, just pointing out that there aren't many free to air Ulster games available

marty2086 wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:

PhilBB wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:
Not ALL of Wales has access to ALL the channels on freeview. But as you do not live here you are just living on what you know, which is very little.

Which parts of Wales don't have access to Freesports on Freeview?

Everywhere has Freeview, but not everywhere has all the channels. West Wales and around the cities have a lot more channels than around the valleys and mid Wales.

They just need to retune their boxes

Ah it's that easy is it ? FFS.

Yes actually it is as I've had to do it in the past, nearly as simple as grasping eirSports will show the games in Ireland and Premier the UK and that they aren't the same companies

Actually, LD is right. Digital braodcast coverage in Wales is shocking and really hit and miss. I have 2 TVs (relatively new, 1 Samsung and 1 "Tesco special") using the same areal. One can get some channels and the other gets others. They are BOTH set up for the same UK Region, but there is no consistency between them. I thought it may be one of the coax lines, so I put them both together switching the same coax line from one to the other and re-tuning. Exactly the same. One set got some channels the other couldn't and vice versa. One (The Samsung), which is the newest and most expensive, cannot get Freesports and Freeview no matter what I try. I've done S/W updates the lot, and some S/W updates actually lost channels. Basically, digital TV is a farce, as with good old analogue you may not have had a crisp picture, but at least you had one. With digital the slightest of drop in signal strenght and you just get a blocked picture.

So to say, some in Merthyr get Freesports so all can is not true. I've proven that sometimes you cant get a signal on one set in the same room (on the same table).

As for Freesports showing Pro14 games, I think this week just shows which games will feature. Zebre v Kings... not likely to be an exciting fixture is it...

At least we'll get Ulster v Scarlets on S4C in Welsh. So guess that's half the free to air games we had last year. As I had Sky sports, its a 3rd of what I had.

Well if you have different availability on different boxes it's the products you're using that are the problem.

As for only getting a third of what you had before, Sky isn't free to air and wasn't every week

Nope Ulster v Scarlets and Zebre v Kings is two games on FTA, so exactly the same as you had on FTA last year

As you aren't a paying customer, you don't get to select the matches

Welly wrote: Got a free month of Premier sport (As can anyone with Sky sports that will be a new premier customer).  will decide what the quality is like and if it is worth the £9.99 a month for after.

Oh right so is that automatic or you need to register?

I can't keep up with it all....

rodders wrote:

Welly wrote: Got a free month of Premier sport (As can anyone with Sky sports that will be a new premier customer).  will decide what the quality is like and if it is worth the £9.99 a month for after.

Oh right so is that automatic or you need to register?

I can't keep up with it all....

https://subscribe.premiersports.tv/

Try that rodders

Why was the Premier Sports Pro14 launch show, the same tv programme made in Ireland for an Irish audience that wqas broadcast on an Irish tv channel?

Does it matter?

BamBam wrote:Does it matter?

Well yes, as Premier Sports are getting a kicking for it on social media.

RugbyFan100 wrote:

BamBam wrote:Does it matter?

Well yes, as Premier Sports are getting a kicking for it on social media.

And that matters why?

Because a large proportion of their customers are unhappy with their product, why are you being deliberately obtuse ?

marty2086 wrote:

RugbyFan100 wrote:

BamBam wrote:Does it matter?

Well yes, as Premier Sports are getting a kicking for it on social media.

And that matters why?

Because Premier Sports' brand and product is taking a kicking. Customers are't happy with the product, and a game hasn't even been played.

RugbyFan100 wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

RugbyFan100 wrote:

BamBam wrote:Does it matter?

Well yes, as Premier Sports are getting a kicking for it on social media.

And that matters why?

Because Premier Sports' brand and product is taking a kicking. Customers are't happy with the product, and a game hasn't even been played.

Well given your analyse is that it's an Irish channel though it's broadcasting in the UK and registered in Luxembourg and aimed at an Irish audience even though it's not airing in most of Ireland, I think we'll not worry about your claims

RugbyFan100 wrote:Why was the Premier Sports Pro14 launch show, the same tv programme made in Ireland for an Irish audience that wqas broadcast on an Irish tv channel?

Yawn.

marty2086 wrote:

Well given your analyse is that it's an Irish channel though it's broadcasting in the UK and registered in Luxembourg and aimed at an Irish audience even though it's not airing in most of Ireland, I think we'll not worry about your claims

I.e. - I don't want to answer the question, as this is a bit embarrassing for Premier Sports ahead of the new season.

RugbyFan100 wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

Well given your analyse is that it's an Irish channel though it's broadcasting in the UK and registered in Luxembourg and aimed at an Irish audience even though it's not airing in most of Ireland, I think we'll not worry about your claims

I.e. - I don't want to answer the question, as this is a bit embarrassing for Premier Sports ahead of the new season.

Answer what? The premise for your question is based on false claims

munkian wrote:Because a large proportion of their customers are unhappy with their product, why are you being deliberately obtuse ?

How many of their customers are unhappy? And what are they unhappy about?

marty2086 wrote:

RugbyFan100 wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

Well given your analyse is that it's an Irish channel though it's broadcasting in the UK and registered in Luxembourg and aimed at an Irish audience even though it's not airing in most of Ireland, I think we'll not worry about your claims

I.e. - I don't want to answer the question, as this is a bit embarrassing for Premier Sports ahead of the new season.

Answer what? The premise for your question is based on false claims

No it wasn't. You just can't bring yourself to answer it. As per normal.