Pro14 disciplinary panels

Can somebody please tell me how mitigation is decided in the Pro14 disciplinary panels.

This week:

Keiran Fonotia was asked if he thought his actions merited a red card: he said yes. the panel awarded a reduction in weeks of 50%

The panel concluded:

Full mitigation of 50 per cent was applied after considering the player’s previously clean disciplinary record, his admission that his actions warranted a red card and the co-operation of both the player and his club throughout the process.

Matty Rea was asked if he thought his actions merited a red card: he said no. the panel still awarded a full reduction in weeks of 50%

the player’s clean disciplinary record and other mitigating factors and applied full mitigation of 50 per cent

What are these mysterious  "other" mitigating factors that the panel declined to report on?

What is the point in asking the question if it makes zero difference?

The panels were made up Irish officials. They always give 50% reductions. Kieran F O’Notia and Matty Rea are both Irish.

Easy.

Other mitigating factors will include:

He admitted foul play (just that it did not deserve a red)
He was sent off (rather than cited) so both him and the club had already suffered punishment

Pot Hale wrote:The panels were made up Irish officials. They always give 50% reductions.   Kieran F O’Notia and Matty Rea are both Irish.  

Easy.  

Not wanting to get in the way of you feeding someone's conspiracy theories but the panel for Rea:

The Disciplinary Committee, comprising of Pamela Woodman (Chair), Kathrine Mackie and Ian Douglas (all Scotland)

Of course they all like a pint of Guinness, so effectively Irish really.

LondonTiger wrote:Other mitigating factors will include:

He admitted foul play (just that it did not deserve a red)
He was sent off (rather than cited) so both him and the club had already suffered punishment

So half an hour of a game translates into weeks of reduction?

LondonTiger wrote:Kathrine Mackie and Ian Douglas (all Scotland)

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Is she the one who served a 4 month ban for biting? Or is that another Scottish panel officer?

RugbyFan100 wrote:

LondonTiger wrote:Other mitigating factors will include:

He admitted foul play (just that it did not deserve a red)
He was sent off (rather than cited) so both him and the club had already suffered punishment

So half an hour of a game translates into weeks of reduction?

There are other mitigating factors, they are just some examples

The reason for asking if they felt it was a red is obviously to save time.

Just because someone gets a red doesn't mean they should miss games. Both cases mention clean records so maybe that has more to do with 50% than anything else.

LondonTiger wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:The panels were made up Irish officials. They always give 50% reductions.   Kieran F O’Notia and Matty Rea are both Irish.  

Easy.  

Not wanting to get in the way of you feeding someone's conspiracy theories but the panel for Rea:

The Disciplinary Committee, comprising of Pamela Woodman (Chair), Kathrine Mackie and Ian Douglas (all Scotland)

Of course they all like a pint of Guinness, so effectively Irish really.

Matty Rea is better looking than Fonotia and must have charmed Pamela and Kathrine, that's my conclusion

BamBam wrote:

LondonTiger wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:The panels were made up Irish officials. They always give 50% reductions.   Kieran F O’Notia and Matty Rea are both Irish.  

Easy.  

Not wanting to get in the way of you feeding someone's conspiracy theories but the panel for Rea:

The Disciplinary Committee, comprising of Pamela Woodman (Chair), Kathrine Mackie and Ian Douglas (all Scotland)

Of course they all like a pint of Guinness, so effectively Irish really.

Matty Rea is better looking than Fonotia and must have charmed Pamela and Kathrine, that's my conclusion

So sexist, what if they don't scrummage that way. What if Ian lineouts for the other team?

So narrow minded BamBam

LondonTiger wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:The panels were made up Irish officials. They always give 50% reductions.   Kieran F O’Notia and Matty Rea are both Irish.  

Easy.  

Not wanting to get in the way of you feeding someone's conspiracy theories but the panel for Rea:

The Disciplinary Committee, comprising of Pamela Woodman (Chair), Kathrine Mackie and Ian Douglas (all Scotland)

Of course they all like a pint of Guinness, so effectively Irish really.

And of course Woodman and Douglas both have 'O' in their names so are basically Irish (WO'odman and DO'uglas obvs). Mackie hasn't got an 'O' but is a wO'men.

Has anbody heard about Nathan Hughes disciplinary hearing? They mysteriously failed to reach a verdict due to some issue. Apparently he tweeted "Absolute joke" in the middle of the hearing. Haha, hilarious if that's what caused it, heightened chance of him missing Autumn international as well.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/champions-cup/what-a-joke-nathan-hughes-tweeted-during-hearing-and-then-rfu-panel-mysteriously-failed-to-reach-decision-over-punch-37407629.html

Artful_Dodger wrote:Has anbody heard about Nathan Hughes disciplinary hearing?  They mysteriously failed to reach a verdict due to some issue.  Apparently he tweeted "Absolute joke" in the middle of the hearing.  Haha, hilarious if that's what caused it, heightened chance of him missing Autumn international as well.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/champions-cup/what-a-joke-nathan-hughes-tweeted-during-hearing-and-then-rfu-panel-mysteriously-failed-to-reach-decision-over-punch-37407629.html

Thanks for sharing the article. I had heard something about this. Madness.