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Post by stub on Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:15 pm

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Watching Munster v Glos and really hoping England don’t lose another number 8!

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Post by Artful_Dodger on Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:19 am

stub wrote:Did it cost a try?

Yep Racing scored off the resulting scrum.

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Post by stub on Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:21 am

Shame because it looked like you were fairly dominant on the score board up until then.

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Post by Heaf on Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:49 am

Sarries passing gone a bit loose ...

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Post by profitius on Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:24 am

A win is a win is a win. A tired looking Munster got over the line. It was a job done kind of feel after the final whistle.


The lineouts were a mess. Hopefully N Scannells injury isn't that bad. It's been a bad week for injuries.


As well as the lineouts, they were just sloppy with the ball with numerous mistakes. Central to that once again was Duncan Williams. He gets 10/10 for effort but his passing is atrocious. Mathewson came on and suddenly Munster clicked into gear.


Carbery is looking alright! Thanks Leo! He is getting better by the game and I expect him to start one or two of the autumn internationals.


Beirne was the motm again. Great signing.


Gloucester will feel confident about the return leg but Munster should be much better. Exeter blew a good chance.
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Post by LondonTiger on Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:04 pm

Christ on a bike!!!  How does Picamoles not get a YC for deliberate knock on?

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Post by stub on Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:05 pm

The mind boggles LT!

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Post by stub on Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:05 pm

What a start by the Falcons!

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Post by Heaf on Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:19 pm

LondonTiger wrote:Christ on a bike!!!  How does Picamoles not get a YC for deliberate knock on?

Yet more appalling officiating ... it's turned into a lottery now.

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Post by formerly known as Sam on Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:41 pm

It's a Scottish ref expect shocking decisions at best.

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Post by Heaf on Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:58 pm

To be fair there have been shockers from other countries too ...

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Post by Heaf on Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:48 pm

tackler on ground didn't release there - pen other way for me ...

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Post by Heaf on Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:48 pm

That was probably the last chance for Falcons - shame after such a good start

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Post by Heaf on Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:50 pm

How much sealing off is this ref going to allow?

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Post by Heaf on Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:53 pm

AR calls white offside but ref says no?

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Post by Heaf on Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:55 pm

Montpellier offside all the time ...

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Post by stub on Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:56 pm

Wow, Falcons!!

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Post by stub on Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:58 pm

How many phases was that? 40?

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Post by Heaf on Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:59 pm

Yes - well done Falcons!!!

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Post by Rugby Fan on Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:00 pm

That was some finish.

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Post by Heaf on Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:00 pm

Phew - I'm exhausted after that Smile

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Post by Rugby Fan on Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:04 pm

Newcastle have put in the kind of performances we might have expected from Exeter.

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Post by LondonTiger on Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:07 pm

Heaf wrote:Montpellier offside all the time ...
Whole game.



Chuffing awesome from Falcons.

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Post by marty2086 on Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:19 pm

They were clearly offside too for the final phase, made it more satisfying to see Falcons win it

Don't think the yellow was correct either, tackle didn't start around the head/neck as the TMO claimed

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:29 pm

Aaaarrrggghhhhhh furious furious

Getting ready to leave the house at 13.00 to go to the game for a 15.00 start....

Feckin 13.00 start!!!!

Missed the f$#king game!!!!!!!

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Post by stub on Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:30 pm

Geordie, what a nightmare!

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Post by stub on Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:31 pm

Toulouse looking pretty awesome....

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:37 pm

You plum, Geordie.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:40 pm

Can't believe I did that!!

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Post by stub on Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:42 pm

Well at least you didn’t miss an exciting game!

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Post by yappysnap on Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:06 pm

Oh Geordie...

Well done Falcons!!

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Post by Heaf on Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:28 pm

marty2086 wrote:They were clearly offside too for the final phase, made it more satisfying to see Falcons win it

Don't think the yellow was correct either, tackle didn't start around the head/neck as the TMO claimed

Exactly - makes you wonder how they can have the benefit of slow-mo and still get it wrong ...

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Post by Heaf on Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:31 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Aaaarrrggghhhhhh  furious furious

Getting ready to leave the house at 13.00 to go to the game for a 15.00 start....

Feckin 13.00 start!!!!

Missed the f$#king game!!!!!!!

Jeez mate, what a nightmare ... still you can at least relax watching the replay knowing you won without being stressed out by the last 10 minutes ...

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Post by Pot Hale on Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:06 am

Superb win by Toulouse over Leinster - best game of the cup so far - 28-27.

Two teams gave it their all.

The Heineken Cup keeps on giving.
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Post by Artful_Dodger on Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:10 am

Unbelievable game.

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Post by nathan on Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:14 am

Not sure if this has been posted already but is this a red?

Check out @barker316’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/barker316/status/1053641668208013317?s=09

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Post by nathan on Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:14 am

Only seen the last 10 minutes of that game and it was brilliant, guessing it's worth a full watch?

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Post by formerly known as Sam on Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:16 am

Good, hard, close games with the underdog coming through to take it.

About time we saw Toulouse come back to strength.

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Post by Heaf on Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:20 am

nathan wrote:Not sure if this has been posted already but is this a red?

Check out @barker316’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/barker316/status/1053641668208013317?s=09

Certainly looks like it - but it seems different laws apply to Munster based on this and the Chiefs match ...

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Post by whocares on Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:25 am

Great win. To be honest I didn’t see Stade Toulousain at this level specially when Huget went in.

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Post by lostinwales on Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:27 am

nathan wrote:Not sure if this has been posted already but is this a red?

Check out @barker316’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/barker316/status/1053641668208013317?s=09


Should be...

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Post by Pot Hale on Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:32 am

whocares wrote:Great win. To be honest I didn’t see Stade Toulousain at this level specially when Huget went in.

I thought they were merveilleuse. Countered and overcame everything Leinster threw at them.  Their ball handling, speed of thought, skill and nous was fantastic - a pleasure to watch.

If they could bottle that for playing at test level, along with all the other playing riches that France have, they’d be champion material.
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Post by TrailApe on Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:19 am

Can't believe I did that!!

Daft Bugger!

Mind you - think how much money you have saved - easily enough time to (nervously) have supped at least 4 pints in that last drive!!
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Post by LondonTiger on Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:28 am

nathan wrote:Not sure if this has been posted already but is this a red?

Check out @barker316’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/barker316/status/1053641668208013317?s=09

If looked at, you would have thought so. Cipriani probably did a worse challenge than the one he was sent off for earlier in the game, while 36 also made a challenge that was missed.

It will be interesting to see what citing officers do across all the games.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:55 am

There have been a few clear outs the same as lozowski as well. I'm sure we will see the consistency we expect!

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Post by whocares on Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:00 am

Pot Hale wrote:
whocares wrote:Great win. To be honest I didn’t see Stade Toulousain at this level specially when Huget went in.

I thought they were merveilleuse. Countered and overcame everything Leinster threw at them.  Their ball handling, speed of thought, skill and nous was fantastic - a pleasure to watch.

If they could bottle that for playing at test level, along with all the other playing riches that France have, they’d be champion material.

Well I don’t think they have the required consistency yet but it was good to see them on a pitch all guns blazing. Been a while after a few years .

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Post by yappysnap on Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:26 am

Apparently Toulouse are a pretty young inexperienced team as well so great to get this win.

Got to admit it's always nice to see the top teams like Leinster lose, keeps this comp interesting for everyone.

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Post by thebandwagonsociety on Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:19 pm

Pot Hale wrote:Superb win by Toulouse over Leinster - best game of the cup so far - 28-27.

Two teams gave it their all.

The Heineken Cup keeps on giving.

Aim for the TBP wins at home and pick up at least a LBP on the road. A decent result for Leinster away in France. Toulouse played some lovely stuff. They pounced on some telegraphed passing from Leinster. The only thing sub-par in that game was the pitch itself, it tore up something awful in the scrums. I wonder how scary that Toulouse outfit would be with a sarries/glasgow/blues style home pitch.

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Post by marty2086 on Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:26 pm

LondonTiger wrote:
nathan wrote:Not sure if this has been posted already but is this a red?

Check out @barker316’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/barker316/status/1053641668208013317?s=09

If looked at, you would have thought so. Cipriani probably did a worse challenge than the one he was sent off for earlier in the game, while 36 also made a challenge that was missed.

It will be interesting to see what citing officers do across all the games.

Sad thing is seeing the tweets saying different laws for the Irish etc as if Twelvetrees tackle never happened Rolling Eyes

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Post by Heaf on Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:57 pm

Fair point Marty, 36 seemed lucky too, however I think there may be other factors that make people think some teams seem to get the rub of the green a lot.  

Take Munster v Chiefs and the conversion charge down - reckless, impact to head, with force but ref said it was OK as it wasn't deliberate (and we know it's outcome not intent which is the deciding factor now).  Also the illegal binding of the flankers on the props right in front of the officials which was ignored multiple times.  Finally the last phases of the match when Chiefs just needed a penalty to win, Poite seemed determined not to give a pen despite at least 3 infringements that deserved one.  

These are just examples and I'm not saying other teams also haven't had good or bad decisions but there is a huge amount of inconsistency and some teams just 'seem' to come out much better off than others - of course our tinted glasses of various colours could also be playing a part here Smile

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Post by marty2086 on Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:12 pm

The charge down, from the angles I saw didn't touch the head it actually looked like Conway tried to avoid the head which would indicate it was deliberate

Some teams look to push boundaries and when officials don't pull them for it they keep doing it. Just look at Montpellier yesterday, consistently offside and sealing off and even when the ARs point it out to the ref he said he's happy with it.


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