Pichot's Tilt at Power - Rugby's Future
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Pichot's Tilt at Power - Rugby's Future
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Agustin Pichot has announced he's running for World Rugby Chairman. Unfortunately the only in-depth article I could find with relative ease was in the Mail, so apologies for that. With the lull in rugby now, it seems a sensible time to discuss what Pichot's bid means and rugby's future generally.
Look like he's pretty set on the Nations Cup idea and breaking up the traditional rugby structures. I think one of the things people outside the Six Nations don't understand is that we don't want to change it because we actually quite like it. Equally running to scrap the voting rights of the old rugby nations doesn't work when the old rugby nations collectively hold 27 out of 50 votes. Nonetheless it is time for things to change. For rugby's commercial stability it's important to expand into new economies, it's interesting that Pichot has earmarked Brazil and Tunisia for this. Personally I am of the opinion that several nations give far more to our game than they get in return; primarily the Pacific Islanders, and that rugby will be a far more exciting sport if we can harness some of the world's bigger economies to create genuine rugby powers but that should not come at the expense of what we already love about our game. I love the Six Nations, not just because of the rugby but what it constitutes beyond rugby. As a Scotland fan I know that in a good year we could win the tournament, as a realist I know that we will never win a 12 team Nations league. Rugby needs to learn the lesson that bigger does not always constitute better.
Agustin Pichot has announced he's running for World Rugby Chairman. Unfortunately the only in-depth article I could find with relative ease was in the Mail, so apologies for that. With the lull in rugby now, it seems a sensible time to discuss what Pichot's bid means and rugby's future generally.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-8211135/Argentinian-great-Agustin-Pichot-promises-revolution-challenges-World-Rugbys-job.htmlDaily Mail wrote:Pichot's six-point plan includes:
Addressing the challenges of COVID-19 as part of a wider alignment of the global playing calendar, creating a 'compelling narrative' for men and women in XVs and Sevens. Clubs, unions and private equity firms will be consulted about an annual tournament featuring 12 to 14 Tests per nation per year.
A democratic governance structure. A long-term goal of scrapping the weighted vote system that gives more power to wealthy nations, as well as revenue sharing.
A growing grassroots and youth game, including focus on developing emerging nations such as Brazil and Tunisia.
A safe and entertaining game, featuring a dedicated World Rugby Innovation Department to look at projects such as Hawkeye technology and a flagship rugby computer game.
Mandatory athletes' commissions to put players at the heart of decision making – with discussions about reducing wages to create sustainability.
A World Rugby management 'fit for purpose' – reviewing all internal structures to 'restore trust' in the governing body.
Look like he's pretty set on the Nations Cup idea and breaking up the traditional rugby structures. I think one of the things people outside the Six Nations don't understand is that we don't want to change it because we actually quite like it. Equally running to scrap the voting rights of the old rugby nations doesn't work when the old rugby nations collectively hold 27 out of 50 votes. Nonetheless it is time for things to change. For rugby's commercial stability it's important to expand into new economies, it's interesting that Pichot has earmarked Brazil and Tunisia for this. Personally I am of the opinion that several nations give far more to our game than they get in return; primarily the Pacific Islanders, and that rugby will be a far more exciting sport if we can harness some of the world's bigger economies to create genuine rugby powers but that should not come at the expense of what we already love about our game. I love the Six Nations, not just because of the rugby but what it constitutes beyond rugby. As a Scotland fan I know that in a good year we could win the tournament, as a realist I know that we will never win a 12 team Nations league. Rugby needs to learn the lesson that bigger does not always constitute better.
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You can't can you.
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I'll answer as soon as you respond to the question I posed you and you've ducked several times.
It's a forum. I never have any issue on making a point and explaining. Lots do: because they waffle..come on hersh answer the question.
It's a forum. I never have any issue on making a point and explaining. Lots do: because they waffle..come on hersh answer the question.
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That old chestnut again, how boring are you. Do you wear a blazer and sit on the RFU board?
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Can you two get a room ?
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Blah blah blah.........
How will the home Unions make more money?
Simple question oh 'great one'.
How will the home Unions make more money?
Simple question oh 'great one'.
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I'll answer once you spill the beans on the question I've asked you hersh.
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20056 posts and still no answer.
Who the hell is hersh anyway?
Who the hell is hersh anyway?
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That would work better had you not already confirmed it's you. Come.on now answer the question. Ita simply your own view so should be easy.
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Irish Londoner wrote:Can you two get a room ?
They have one - here.
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How will the home nations make more money from a world league?
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Quite easily. I'll answer once you answer the question posed to you.
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How will the home nations make more money from a world league?
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When they finally get a room, can someone lock the door and loose the key.
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Old Man wrote:Broken record
You do not need to type 'broken record' when using an emoji.
Laugh
Sarcastic whistle
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I'd rather not be locked up with Hersh ta. Fortunately hes started to answer his own question by posting about the global season that Beaumont is helping to bring in. Good old Bill.
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Great man, glad the worlds unions could see what the other chap was up too.
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So you came around in the end hersh. Fully supportive of a global calendar increasing wealth.
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Agustin Pichot claims he was betrayed in his bid to became World Rugby chairman.
Still crying. Oh plus he wants to get rid of scrums and mauls.
What a loser.
Oh I can't wait for another red vote lol
Still crying. Oh plus he wants to get rid of scrums and mauls.
What a loser.
Oh I can't wait for another red vote lol
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Er. Its beaumont and world rugby who is giving the individual unions a choice of replacing scrums etc when returning to play following covid. You seem to have got a bit confused hersh.
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Well done you past the test.
Just checking you are reading my posts and not just responding due to some petty biased vendetta.
How will the home unions make more money?
Answer the question and stop avoiding it otherwise you will lose all credibility by making these wild claims.
Really 6:21am?
Just checking you are reading my posts and not just responding due to some petty biased vendetta.
How will the home unions make more money?
Answer the question and stop avoiding it otherwise you will lose all credibility by making these wild claims.
Really 6:21am?
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You Passed a test, and you had kidney stones in the past.
By the way, excellent deflection being caught in an incorrect statement.
By the way, excellent deflection being caught in an incorrect statement.
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So we now know at least a couple of beaumonts proposals you don't like hersh. Calling Beaumont a loser is a bit much though.
Hes not doing great at reading the articles full stop. Hes also posted one which answers his question in part.
Hes not doing great at reading the articles full stop. Hes also posted one which answers his question in part.
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This is great never realised you could block posters. 7&1/2 gone, wiped away like a stain on the sofa.
All I wanted was an simple answer.
All I wanted was an simple answer.
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